To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

[FaeryRing]

Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

I went to a single sex - never ever ever again. I would rather eat my sock than send my daughter to a girls school.

What a truly ignorant thing to say. Girls are safe in co-Ed schools, if they weren’t Ofsted would put them into special measures. A lot of bullying is girl on girl and in an all girl environment that can be toxic. Children with SEN have zero empowerment and very little provision, it’s a national disgrace. A tiny minority wanting a system that isn’t needed does not trump SEN funding.

Lots of us think know that adequate SEN provision is a huge issue in many schools though, for both boys and girls. SEN and non-SEN girls and boys need access to safe and empowering education. You seem to be pushing some sort of elite SS education where SEN don't even really feature. That isn't reality for the majority of schools.

Nope, you just cannot accept that your fairly narrow view is exactly that.

I consider most porn to be violent, certainly if being watched by underage children. And yes, teenagers particularly boys are viewing it...to work in a school and deny that is quite shocking.

Exactly and some of us have both boys and girls and have experienced all girl education. Never again.

It's also quite naive for anyone to think that only males view porn, or indeed other similar content. All teenagers look at it.

Girls and boys look at it. Girls and boys circulate pictures.Many teenagers do a lot of things they shouldn’t - girls and boys.

Next you’ll be telling me women are just as likely to be sex offenders! Lol

What was the problem with an all girl education?

Cyber bullying is more prevalent amongst girls.

Looking at porn doesn’t make you a sex offender and neither does being a boy.🙄

Yes, I agree with this.

DD has friends (who she knew at primary school) at single sex schools and anecdotally there appears far more social pressure to be the best whether that be academically, fitness and thinness, musically etc. Competitive behaviour that isn’t healthy from my own experience. My own DD has been invited to be in the online chats with some of these new friends from the all girls schools by her old friend but she has removed herself as I don’t want DD exposed to the competitive health stuff.

My DS attends a 6th form college which is predominantly made up of academic 16-18 year olds and the friendship groups of boys and girls reflect the workplace and the society as a whole. Most of these friendship groups continued from school, happened to be a state comprehensive and they don’t know anybody who chucked chairs around, mostly they were in top groups for subjects that were streamed; so I would assume the demographic of your friendship group has more of an impact. One of the girls in the 6th form friendship group went to an all girls’ private school and hated it due to the competition, she is also the one studying the Art subjects; another friend that is a girl who was at the comprehensive school is the one studying IT and Maths.

Probably...but from my experience of having a ds in a mixed school and a dd in a single sex school...the things my ds has heard and seen have been really quite shocking.

Secondary school starts at 11....an 11 year old girl compared to a 16 year old boy will know and have been exposed to far less disturbing content generally.

@FaeryRing
The fact you have ignored my comment on what you said about ED says everything I need to know.

You are determined to be right
At any cost.

I can only hope you have ignored me because you have realised your error and are too ashamed to apologise.

What on earth made you jump to that conclusion?
You really aren't showing yourself in a rational light here.

Agree and I think it’s absolute rubbish that boys and girls view porn in equal numbers. The same posters on here have been posting the same laughable shit time and time and time again, while shrugging off the actual evidence I have posted that girls are more likely (not guaranteed to, just more likely) thrive in a female environment. All their views are made up or anecdotal yet they have the nerve to demand more evidence or say I’m ’seeing what I want to see’. So hypocritical the mind boggles!

Why are you comparing an 11 year old girl and a 16 year old boy though?
Any 16 year old, unless the younger child has been abused in some way, will be more likely to know more about sex/pornography, and a whole host of other things, than any 11 year old!

Because they will be mixing in the same environment.

And you are? Ignoring actual studies and evidence, harping on about girls watching porn, whinging about me ‘hating’ boys when I have a son and have backed up everything I’ve said. You’re a boy mum who is offended that I don’t want my daughter in a mixed sex classroom. You need to deal with your own feelings rather than slandering girls because you feel triggered.

And it's not just the viewing of porn...it's the explicit talk that will inevitably be overheard. Ds on first week of secondary school overheard all sorts and came home asking me what such and such means.

You not agreeing doesn't make something 'the same laughable shit', especially when it's real experience and/or factual.
You have posted evidence that when we compare like for like, girls are only slightly more likely to do well - you seem to be missing the slightly.
I have noticed that you are making more personal insults and using quite unpleasant language, as you grasp as straws to defend your very narrow and biased view.

You are jumping to conclusions about me when you actually know nothing.
You are consistently trying to promote girls rights over and above everything else.
You are stating that evidence clearly states something when it merely suggests a slight effect.
You don't get to tell anyone what they need to 'deal with' as a way of deflecting your poor argument.

I don't know many S5 boys who hang around with S1 girls, or vice versa tbh.

Does your son do this then?

I don't recognise this as a description of the coed schools I know.

I went to a girls school and DH went to a boys school and would have gone the same route for our son but for the 2 boys schools going coed by the tine he was old enough (leaving 2 girls schools). The higher achieving girls were sent to the previous boys schools as deemed to be higher attaining schools taking spaces away from boys who wanted a single sex education. So different areas opposite issue.

However, my understanding is that girls actually achieve better than the boys in a co Ed situation rather than the other way round. Do have stats to back your position from somewhere as I would be interested to see.

The reality is in private settings they cash the ££ and if VAT is going to reduce the pool then they will be after bums on seats whatever sex they may be.