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..to find Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife super creepy?

201 replies

insidenumber9 · 06/05/2024 21:21

Just this really. He was a 16 year old child actor when they met, and she was his director and in her 40s. It’s so sad. Maybe I’m projecting as had a bad relationship with an older man as a teen, but I feel she stole his childhood.

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PineappleTime · 08/05/2024 13:39

KimberleyClark · 08/05/2024 13:20

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

I did read that he pursued her relentlessly. Doesn’t excuse her for giving in though.

From that article linked up thread where they were 'arm in arm' 'top dogs' 'matching jackets' on set of the film it's clear she was just as into him as he was and hardly trying to discourage him if that's what was happening. If a teenager gets a crush on a 40+ person it's very easy for the older person to shut it down, or go to HR/equivalent if they can't. She 100% encouraged him.

Excited101 · 08/05/2024 14:08

There’s 20 years between me and DP but we got together when I was mid 30’s and him mid 50’s, we were both home owners and he was only on a little bit more money then, than I am now (we have both got better paying jobs since we met). It’s a whole different ballgame when there’s a power imbalance like that, and when one of the pair is barely an adult- certainly not in the actual sense of the word. It’s very sleazy!

Allfur · 08/05/2024 14:32

I thought it odd that in the recent article about them, old age was not mentioned once, both in terms of practicalities and attraction

Beefcurtains79 · 08/05/2024 14:57

She just thinks it sounds better if they insist that he chased her.
Its PR bollocks.

AccountCreateUsername · 08/05/2024 15:50

Desecratedcoconut · 08/05/2024 13:31

Pursued relentlessly is hardly the mark of maturity, is it? It's more the preserve of your average teen who will leverage their relentless energy in pursuit of an outcome against your ever dwindling reserve of energy to keep saying no.

Edited

Exactly! As IF a teenager is going to behave that way towards his adult boss!

Runningupthecurtains · 08/05/2024 16:06

Mama2many73 · 08/05/2024 11:29

A few yrs ago I was out at an event with some other mums and some of their teenage sons were there. I joined in a conversation late to be greeted with 'well, you would wouldn't you! ' in regards to one of the lads, whose mum we are all friends with.
He was around 18/19 and I was the youngest mum at 40.
Totally repulsed me that some of my friends would perve over our friends son like that. Even taking away the age difference, we've watched this young lad grow up from a baby, he's friends with our kids . My response was 'omg no! That's wrong on every single level'

Yep - when I was the grand old ancient age of 24 I met a lad in a club. They were shit hot on being strictly 21+ so I assumed he was. We exchanged numbers and met up a few days later and he revealed he was 18! I was horrified and instantly called it off. (I spent the next few weeks feeling disgusted with myself because I'd snogged a teenage). That was with a six year age gap.

CharlotteLightandDark · 08/05/2024 17:06

I read that article a while back, I remember thinking the ‘they know who the top dogs are’ comment embarrassingly arrogant and twattish then.

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

Allfur · 08/05/2024 14:32

I thought it odd that in the recent article about them, old age was not mentioned once, both in terms of practicalities and attraction

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

Housewife2010 · 09/05/2024 11:35

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

Catherine and Amal were in their late 20's/early 30's when they got together with their future husbands so it is very different.

KimberleyClark · 09/05/2024 11:38

And there was a great deal of mention of Catherine and Michael’s age gap at the time.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/05/2024 12:06

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

They weren't teenagers.

peakygold · 09/05/2024 12:12

Liam Payne was 14 when a 24 year old Cheryl Tweedy set her sights on him. Now that is gross.

ClipClopperDontStopper · 09/05/2024 12:12

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

CZJ and Amal were both in their thirties when they met their future spouses. Hopefully you can spot the difference in the situations.

<massive eye roll>

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2024 12:29

peakygold · 09/05/2024 12:12

Liam Payne was 14 when a 24 year old Cheryl Tweedy set her sights on him. Now that is gross.

That’s when she first MET him.

Do you have evidence that she was grooming him from that age?

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 13:31

ClipClopperDontStopper · 09/05/2024 12:12

CZJ and Amal were both in their thirties when they met their future spouses. Hopefully you can spot the difference in the situations.

<massive eye roll>

The original comment was about practicalities in old age, i.e. when she's a pensioner, not when they first met. It's never mentioned when the man is a pensioner and the woman is 20 yrs younger. Hopefully you can roll your eyes back down enough to re-read properly.

As per my previous comments, there was clear grooming here, the 'he pursued me' line is straight out of the pedo handbook.

PineappleTime · 09/05/2024 15:36

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2024 12:29

That’s when she first MET him.

Do you have evidence that she was grooming him from that age?

Dating someone you knew as a child when you were an adult is creepy AF

insidenumber9 · 09/05/2024 16:55

Runningupthecurtains · 09/05/2024 15:26

The office Spotify played this earlier. It made me think of this thread

Great song! Very apt

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thaegumathteth · 09/05/2024 19:21

The people who say 'well 18 is an adult by law' make me wonder wtf their moral compass is. In some countries the age of majority is 15, in some countries girls can get married at 13 or even younger if their dad says it's ok.

It's legal so you'd be fine with it?

Beefcurtains79 · 10/05/2024 07:20

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

There was a massive big deal made when Catherine Zeta Jones got with Michael Douglas, you couldn’t have missed it.
Were you not in the country or something?

TotalDramarama24 · 10/05/2024 07:42

@Beefcurtains79 it was a long time ago so a lot of people on MN weren't even born then! Catherine Zeta-Jones met MD in 1998 when she was 26 and MD was 51 and she had already been engaged a couple of times before (once to John Leslie) so it's nothing like a 17 year old being groomed by a 42 year old.

Allfur · 10/05/2024 07:49

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

Yes good point but I guess just in pure biological terms, an older man can still reproduce

Allfur · 10/05/2024 07:56

MattDamon · 09/05/2024 08:41

It's never mentioned when the man is much older? See Michael Douglas - Catherine Zeta-Jones, George and Amal Clooney, etc.

I was also curious from a female perspective, if an aging woman with a much younger lover, worries about losing her attractiveness, (and I'm guessing the same would apply to men?)

Paninaro94 · 10/05/2024 08:16

Mumsnet hates an age gap relationship and there is always a warning that one of you is going to end up the other’s carer, which apparently the younger one in the relationship has never even thought about til someone here brought it to their attention👀

However, this isn’t really about an age gap relationship, is it? It’s about grooming and it’s very disturbing.

Beefcurtains79 · 10/05/2024 08:51

TotalDramarama24 · 10/05/2024 07:42

@Beefcurtains79 it was a long time ago so a lot of people on MN weren't even born then! Catherine Zeta-Jones met MD in 1998 when she was 26 and MD was 51 and she had already been engaged a couple of times before (once to John Leslie) so it's nothing like a 17 year old being groomed by a 42 year old.

I’m not suggesting it is, I’m just correcting the poster that claimed no one batted an eyelid when CZJ and Michael got together.