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..to find Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife super creepy?

201 replies

insidenumber9 · 06/05/2024 21:21

Just this really. He was a 16 year old child actor when they met, and she was his director and in her 40s. It’s so sad. Maybe I’m projecting as had a bad relationship with an older man as a teen, but I feel she stole his childhood.

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aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:26

But your situation wasn't the same!!! I've said multiple times to you it's the power imbalance that really renders this situation unethical, you're getting offended by something I'm trying to say ISNT like your situation.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:33

Okay jesus christ, I get it you don't like what am saying! I was coming at it from I was in an age gap relationship too angle and the judgement people can give, not down to the bloody bare bones. That's all I was trying to say and that I don't agree with you, is that okay! Even if it isn't the exact same scenario, you still get people judging, just like you. Okay I'm done now ffs.

Runningupthecurtains · 07/05/2024 20:55

My aunt was very happy with her 20 year age gap relationships in her 20's when it began, in her 30s and in her 40s. Not so happy when she became the carer to an old man in her early 50's. In her 60's she became a widow and got back her freedom.
While anyone can become ill/injured at any point it more likely that a 70 something will need physical care than a 50 something.

pantsalot · 07/05/2024 21:04

Oblomov24 · 07/05/2024 20:01

When you read her unstable upbringing of pot smoking hippie parents that got divorced. How she dresses so young. How she tries not to think about anything, not to consider how others see their relationship, it makes sense.

I was just going to ask if anyone knew about their home life before meeting each other. It smells like a trauma bond

Computercalendar · 07/05/2024 21:12

Ive watched a few teen movies of him. Every girl was in love with him after watching Angus thongs and perfect snogging. I thought it was so bizarre he was with a much older woman. It's not just that she is old but very unattractive compared to him. If she was beautiful then I would understand.

Oblomov24 · 07/05/2024 21:19

The mind-bending hippy childhood of Fifty Shades film-maker Sam Taylor-Johnson, the daughter of a New Age guru and a Hells Angel. As a devotee of transcendental meditation and yoga, Sam Taylor-Johnson has often been described as a little kooky.

Sam – who was diagnosed with colon cancer aged just 30, and breast cancer three years later – defeated both diseases with the aid of hundreds of bottles of sacred 'Grail Haven' water, produced by Geraldine and her third husband David De Welles in the remote countryside of Queensland, Australia.

He too lived a bohemian lifestyle, living in Amsterdam for 6 months with his mum for a role is commendable but Amsterdam is quite a unique place.

twinmum2007 · 07/05/2024 22:52

Maybe.if you've survived 2 bouts of cancer as she has, you're more likely to think about seizing the day, doing what will make you happy, and less about fitting in with social.mores. They seem pretty happy. He's a big enough rich enough name now to.leave if he wanted to.

thaegumathteth · 07/05/2024 22:55

twinmum2007 · 07/05/2024 22:52

Maybe.if you've survived 2 bouts of cancer as she has, you're more likely to think about seizing the day, doing what will make you happy, and less about fitting in with social.mores. They seem pretty happy. He's a big enough rich enough name now to.leave if he wanted to.

I don't think surviving cancer means you can't be a groomer tbh

Oblomov24 · 07/05/2024 22:59

The 2 x cancer had nothing to do with still being a groomer.

TotalDramarama24 · 07/05/2024 23:13

twinmum2007 · 07/05/2024 22:52

Maybe.if you've survived 2 bouts of cancer as she has, you're more likely to think about seizing the day, doing what will make you happy, and less about fitting in with social.mores. They seem pretty happy. He's a big enough rich enough name now to.leave if he wanted to.

Going by the date in your username, would you be happy if one of your twins was currently being groomed by a 42 year old with two kids?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 07/05/2024 23:20

twinmum2007 · 07/05/2024 22:52

Maybe.if you've survived 2 bouts of cancer as she has, you're more likely to think about seizing the day, doing what will make you happy, and less about fitting in with social.mores. They seem pretty happy. He's a big enough rich enough name now to.leave if he wanted to.

Would you apply that to a 42 year old man being interested in a 17 year old female?

Hey I've had two bouts of cancer! I'm going to seize the day!

User8646382 · 07/05/2024 23:51

Not hard to see how he got his big break, but I suppose ‘twas ever thus. He obviously wasn’t chosen for his talent or for his likeness to John Lennon. Lennon might have been cocky, but his charisma was off the charts. This kid either didn’t understand that or couldn’t pull it off. A horrible performance from a really unlikeable actor.

PineappleTime · 08/05/2024 07:03

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:26

But your situation wasn't the same!!! I've said multiple times to you it's the power imbalance that really renders this situation unethical, you're getting offended by something I'm trying to say ISNT like your situation.

Well personally I do think it's gross for a 40 year old to date a 20 year old because of the power imbalance and the fact that the older partner has had 20 years of adulthood and is dragging a very young person into their life stage. I think it's selfish.

Pigeonqueen · 08/05/2024 07:49

PineappleTime · 08/05/2024 07:03

Well personally I do think it's gross for a 40 year old to date a 20 year old because of the power imbalance and the fact that the older partner has had 20 years of adulthood and is dragging a very young person into their life stage. I think it's selfish.

I agree.

My dd is 21 and I am 43. I cannot imagine dating any of her friends. They are still very much learning how to be an adult, finding themselves, starting to navigate adult life. Different stage of life entirely. And what about when they are 50 and you’re 70 etc? They’d end up wasting the best years of their lives worrying about someone old enough to be their parent.

Santasbigredbobblehat · 08/05/2024 08:21

He was a very good looking teenage boy when she got with him, it is very unusual and unacceptable. It doesn’t matter that he thinks he’s ok with it now, she shouldn’t have pursued him. I wonder if she’s still attracted to him now he’s a man.

katebushh · 08/05/2024 10:53

It's always made me feel a bit uneasy yes. If a woman 23 yrs older than DS started up with him I think I would be very upset.

drusth · 08/05/2024 11:08

Santasbigredbobblehat · 08/05/2024 08:21

He was a very good looking teenage boy when she got with him, it is very unusual and unacceptable. It doesn’t matter that he thinks he’s ok with it now, she shouldn’t have pursued him. I wonder if she’s still attracted to him now he’s a man.

I am deeply uncomfortable with it as well even though I do think people would be more accepting of this if the older partner was a man.

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

In any case, the way she described having a 'psychic connection' to him put me off. Media luvvie types that don't live in the real world.

PineappleTime · 08/05/2024 11:20

drusth · 08/05/2024 11:08

I am deeply uncomfortable with it as well even though I do think people would be more accepting of this if the older partner was a man.

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

In any case, the way she described having a 'psychic connection' to him put me off. Media luvvie types that don't live in the real world.

No way would he have thought that let alone said it if she hadn't encouraged him from the start. That line is only trotted out to validate the 'psychic connection old soul' bollocks. If an 18 year old boy started working at your workplace and randomly told you he was going to marry you and father children with you you'd think he was mad/have him sacked! She clearly encouraged that thought process in him!

Mama2many73 · 08/05/2024 11:29

thaegumathteth · 06/05/2024 21:31

Yes it's despicable. I'm 42 and my son is 17. The very idea of any of his friends being attractive to me is repulsive .

A few yrs ago I was out at an event with some other mums and some of their teenage sons were there. I joined in a conversation late to be greeted with 'well, you would wouldn't you! ' in regards to one of the lads, whose mum we are all friends with.
He was around 18/19 and I was the youngest mum at 40.
Totally repulsed me that some of my friends would perve over our friends son like that. Even taking away the age difference, we've watched this young lad grow up from a baby, he's friends with our kids . My response was 'omg no! That's wrong on every single level'

insidenumber9 · 08/05/2024 11:53

I just can’t understand why she didn’t think , no this isn’t fair he’s only young.. they could have had a fling (this would still be gross,but not quite as bad as marrying the poor impulsive boy and letting him impregnate her immediately, twice!

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AngeloMysterioso · 08/05/2024 11:56

drusth · 08/05/2024 11:08

I am deeply uncomfortable with it as well even though I do think people would be more accepting of this if the older partner was a man.

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

In any case, the way she described having a 'psychic connection' to him put me off. Media luvvie types that don't live in the real world.

So he was a gobshite teenage boy… makes no difference.

AccountCreateUsername · 08/05/2024 13:09

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 11:16

He was 18 actually. And I don't really think it's anyone's business but theirs. Yes it's young but it's an adult in the eyes of the law. They are still together and very happy by the looks of it. So I aren't going to judge on that.

I got with my partner at 20 and we have been together 18 years. He is also 20 years older than me. No he is not a perve. He was worried about the age gap and I never was. If I'm into someone then that's that. Not every damn thing is creepy just because you don't understand it. I'm still in love with him and whilst we have had our ups and downs like most couples, he is a good man.

This couple might also be the same as me. Just fell in love and are still in love. Look how many relationships go wrong with cheating, abuse Etc. Then someone judges someone like me because I love someone who is older than me? It's a sad state of affairs when people can't mind their own and get judgey.

He was 18 when they officially moved in together and creepy / predatory behaviour in media is actually a huge thing at the moment.

I’m glad you’re happy in your relationship.

I believe extreme age gaps where one partner is a teenager / young adult are not OK and are viewed with suspicion for good reason.

She moved him in at 18. Awful, but then look at Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith. Practically celebrated as a couple 🤮

Allfur · 08/05/2024 13:17

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:20

Well I'm sorry to take you the wrong way but I certainly did not mean that. I wouldn't do that to anyone if I was with someone you know?

My point is, if a much younger person gets together with a much older person, there is an imbalance in terms of life experience, sexual partners, oats sown etc, although i'm aware many people would not choose to anyway

KimberleyClark · 08/05/2024 13:20

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

I did read that he pursued her relentlessly. Doesn’t excuse her for giving in though.

Desecratedcoconut · 08/05/2024 13:31

KimberleyClark · 08/05/2024 13:20

However, he does say that he was the one who told her within a month of meeting her that she would be his wife and the mother of his children, so it could be argued he was the pursuer.

I did read that he pursued her relentlessly. Doesn’t excuse her for giving in though.

Pursued relentlessly is hardly the mark of maturity, is it? It's more the preserve of your average teen who will leverage their relentless energy in pursuit of an outcome against your ever dwindling reserve of energy to keep saying no.