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..to find Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife super creepy?

201 replies

insidenumber9 · 06/05/2024 21:21

Just this really. He was a 16 year old child actor when they met, and she was his director and in her 40s. It’s so sad. Maybe I’m projecting as had a bad relationship with an older man as a teen, but I feel she stole his childhood.

OP posts:
CremeBruleeLove · 07/05/2024 14:56

musicalfrog · 06/05/2024 23:41

So many judgy pants on here. You can't help who you fall in love with. They didn't do anything illegal and you don't have to spend time in the same room with them so.....

I would totally want to smack her if she was dating my son.
I get where the OP is coming from.
It's gross.

insidenumber9 · 07/05/2024 19:07

Maybe when his daughters turn 17/18 or the age he was when he got together with her, it will hit home, how young he really was, and all that he has lost.

OP posts:
AngeloMysterioso · 07/05/2024 19:18

@Namechange666

When I say this next bit, he would have had no choice anyway don't mistake me, he let me live my 20s as any woman in her 20s should.

Aaron Taylor Johnson, by contrast, was a stepfather of two by 19 and biological father of two by 22.

KateMiskin · 07/05/2024 19:25

CremeBruleeLove · 07/05/2024 14:56

I would totally want to smack her if she was dating my son.
I get where the OP is coming from.
It's gross.

So would I. Luckily 19-year-old DS thinks anyone over 40 needs a zimmer frame.

Desecratedcoconut · 07/05/2024 19:40

It's completely grotty. Hopefully people aren't suggesting that there's a talent and wealth pass for grown assed adults in positions of seniority to groom teenagers into relationships and parenthood?

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 19:59

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 11:55

@Namechange666 that's very different to STJ then if there was no power imbalance? (Though I think that's debatable tbh). Why are you using your experience to condone something that is completely different and certainly inappropriate?

What I am actually doing is showing that not all age gaps are bad. Yes my situation is different but I bet people on here are still judging me for it.

You have absolutely zero idea of the dynamics of their relationship. How do you not know they are the greatest loves of each other's lives? That's what I have an issue with. It might work for them and they clearly love each other. That's what I think.

Oblomov24 · 07/05/2024 20:01

When you read her unstable upbringing of pot smoking hippie parents that got divorced. How she dresses so young. How she tries not to think about anything, not to consider how others see their relationship, it makes sense.

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:02

@Namechange666 everything you say is moot, it is the fact they started a relationship whilst she was his boss that's inappropriate, though not uncommon, the age gap on top of that is what makes it creepy and grooming. You are projecting due to your own experience. If you had an 18 year old child I very much doubt you'd be thrilled at them being in a relationship with their 40+ year old boss.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:04

Allfur · 07/05/2024 13:03

So you got to sow your oats?

Sorry but that's a gross reply to make.

I meant going out with my friends, clubbing, doing whatever I wanted to do when I wanted. Being a person in their 20s.

I never cheated and neither has he.

I just find it so weird and intrusive when people are so invested in other people's relationships just because it isn't your thing so what?

Sometimes when people are younger, believe it or not they are capable of knowing their own minds. I certainly did and I do not regret it at all.

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:05

just because it isn't your thing so what?

Sexual harassment is more than just a kink you can ignore.

AFortnightLost · 07/05/2024 20:08

BobbyBiscuits · 07/05/2024 06:21

You're not wrong. I keep trying to force myself to find it ok, like if I don't I'm not a proper feminist or something?! If he was a girl it would be fucking grim. Especially with two kids before you're even out of your teens. I just don't see how, in any real sense, there wasn't grooming etc. if he had been 20 plus when they got together I guess it'd be a bit less grim, but gawd. Yeah, I don't like it.

There is nothing feminist about grooming a teenager! Feminists don't believe that women are incapable of doing anything wrong. Massive age gap relationships and power imbalances are disturbing either way around. It's just far, far more common for older men to groom girls and we're more used to seeing it.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:09

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:02

@Namechange666 everything you say is moot, it is the fact they started a relationship whilst she was his boss that's inappropriate, though not uncommon, the age gap on top of that is what makes it creepy and grooming. You are projecting due to your own experience. If you had an 18 year old child I very much doubt you'd be thrilled at them being in a relationship with their 40+ year old boss.

Maybe I am projecting but I just feel people are so judgey.

If they wanted to be together that's on them. They are married and have children. They are still together. He was an adult in the eyes of the law.

And as to that, my answer would be if they were happy and I liked that person and they were respectful, I would be behind them.

I just think you should treat each situation individually. Lots of assumptions have been made and none of you even know how it came about or how he felt about it. Age gaps are not seen kindly on this site at all.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:12

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:05

just because it isn't your thing so what?

Sexual harassment is more than just a kink you can ignore.

I'm talking about if someone is into older people.
You're twisting what I'm saying into your version. Where did sexual harassment come from?

And yes I've always liked older men, no I don't have daddy issues before you start. There is nothing wrong with it either.

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:12

@Namechange666 do you criticise people who are judgemental of Harvey Weinstein? What she did wasn't a "lifestyle choice" it was completely unethical, and only just (conveniently) legal, if the story is to be believed.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:13

How is that even the same thing? You're grasping at straws right now.

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:13

@Namechange666 I am treating it individually, I'm talking about SJT but you keep talking about yourself, if you were so comfortable in your situation I don't think you'd be randomly defending yourself against people who aren't even discussing your life.

Allfur · 07/05/2024 20:17

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:04

Sorry but that's a gross reply to make.

I meant going out with my friends, clubbing, doing whatever I wanted to do when I wanted. Being a person in their 20s.

I never cheated and neither has he.

I just find it so weird and intrusive when people are so invested in other people's relationships just because it isn't your thing so what?

Sometimes when people are younger, believe it or not they are capable of knowing their own minds. I certainly did and I do not regret it at all.

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be gross, I genuinely meant it. Your 20s can be the time you see different people so I wondered what you meant by him letting you behave like a 20 something thing

LizzieBennett73 · 07/05/2024 20:18

It was grooming. I can't imagine how his parents felt about it.

She's produced 5 films according to IMDB and each one more turgid crap than the last. 50 Shades was an absolute car crash.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:18

Well I can only come from my point of view and draw from my own personal experience in these sort of situations. I don't know them so I can't use their experiences can I?

However from what I've seen on mumsnet, not that it's the masses, age gap relationships seems to be a big no no on here. What I am trying to show, is that not all of these situations are bad. That's why I used me as an example.

We don't know their ins and outs. We only know minimals facts. I will not judge someone when they are an adult in the eyes of the law and can make their own decision. I'm saying they may have been the happiest people from day dot and have been ever since. And they got people online pointing the finger, when they are only guessing at the dynamics.

But you think it's wrong and that's up to you. I'm saying different but that's okay as well. It would be boring if we all agreed I guess but maybe, just sometimes, realising that it takes all sorts to make the world go around.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:20

Allfur · 07/05/2024 20:17

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be gross, I genuinely meant it. Your 20s can be the time you see different people so I wondered what you meant by him letting you behave like a 20 something thing

Well I'm sorry to take you the wrong way but I certainly did not mean that. I wouldn't do that to anyone if I was with someone you know?

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:21

@Namechange666 but a thread where a very young man was groomed in the work place is not the place to do that, minimal facts are enough here they're admitted to enough to be judged on. If anything it only goes to undermine your posts further with how delusional you appear to be. Honestly, it's coming across as denial.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:22

Just to point out, ADHD people will often use their own experiences to show how they understand something or a situation. I wasn't purposely trying to make it about me. I was just using myself as an example.

Anyway I think I've said enough so I'll bow out now. Just wanted people to sometimes look from another aspect.

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:25

aldpiahvge · 07/05/2024 20:21

@Namechange666 but a thread where a very young man was groomed in the work place is not the place to do that, minimal facts are enough here they're admitted to enough to be judged on. If anything it only goes to undermine your posts further with how delusional you appear to be. Honestly, it's coming across as denial.

Having a different opinion makes me delusional... wow I'll think I'll throw in the good old mum's did you mean to be so rude? I'll leave you to your own comments because now you're just getting personal.

Desecratedcoconut · 07/05/2024 20:26

Namechange666 · 07/05/2024 20:09

Maybe I am projecting but I just feel people are so judgey.

If they wanted to be together that's on them. They are married and have children. They are still together. He was an adult in the eyes of the law.

And as to that, my answer would be if they were happy and I liked that person and they were respectful, I would be behind them.

I just think you should treat each situation individually. Lots of assumptions have been made and none of you even know how it came about or how he felt about it. Age gaps are not seen kindly on this site at all.

His feelings and her feelings are immaterial. What we are talking about about is civilized principles about not taking advantage of your advanced age, money, privilege, allure of competence and, perhaps, wisdom to groom dazzle someone who is fresh into adulthood into a codependent relationship with you and lock that in with childbearing.

TotalDramarama24 · 07/05/2024 20:26

@Namechange666 "You have absolutely zero idea of the dynamics of their relationship. How do you not know they are the greatest loves of each other's lives? That's what I have an issue with. It might work for them and they clearly love each other. That's what I think."

Seeing as he was a teenager when they met and she groomed him, he would obviously think she is the "greatest love of his life" as she's been the only one so he has no normal relationship to compare it to, and she made sure she tied him down completely.