To finally be looking forward to a GE?

[Cadela]

The past election/PM changes have been horrendous. The visceral disappointment was awful each time.

I can’t wait to actually celebrate this year. I know, I know, Labour are going to set fire to the economy and tax everyone £3mil each and it’ll cost you 4 trillion a month to send you kid to private school, and all women will perish immediately because only Tories know what a woman is

But finally! It’s been a long fucking time coming.

We have a party planned already 😄

You're not wealthy? A single income household being able to pay for two sets of private school fees? It's embarrassing that you don't think you are wealthy. In fact it's worse than embarrassing. It's down right insulting. I'm also an NHS worker. I work damned hard at my job all for the princely sum of £11.44 an hour. Which the tories decided was minimum wage. I can barely afford my kids school uniform. Enjoy voting Tory.

Looking at my SM feeds tonight i would say there's a pretty similar feeling of hope and excitement as 97 (not that that was communicated on SM!)

Two sets of private school fees and doesn't consider themselves wealthy?

This must be satire surely?

@ComeAlongPeggy I work for the NHS too, mid band 7. If you pay two lots of school fees and a mortgage on your salary alone then you are clearly on a pretty high banding. My salary covers my mortgage with not that much left. I couldn't send half a child to private school. So whilst it's fantastic that you work for the NHS you are clearly very high up so can't really compare your situation to the general majority of people.

Actually - they had screwed the economy prior to Covid. They had accrued the debt greater than every previous Labour administration prior to Covid. Covid is not an excuse - it has made things worse yes but it's been a convenient smokescreen for what was already happening before it.

Austerity had already screwed our economy long before Covid did.

Do you really think Starmer is a worse leader in comparison to Johnson, Truss and Sunak? How so? I’d love to hear your fact-based rationale on that.
The education system and SEN provision is broken because of Tory social policy and lack of funding; by voting for them you are directly supporting the continuation (and probably worsening) of that. What about the vast majority of children and their families who can’t afford private schools - do they just matter less, or are they just collateral damage so the privileged can send their children to private schools with an unjustifiable tax status in place?

Thrilled to bits with the results in local elections. Huge tory losses so well deserved. Particularly happy with results in the truly repulsive Jacob Rees Mogg’s territory!
Have found myself humming Things can only get better.

Wtaf? Company owners can’t offset school fees against tax liability!! Where did you make that one up? @Lavendersquare

As opposed to the infamous financial corruption of the Johnson era when Sunak was Chancellor? Or the disastrous economic policy of Truss? It’s pretty obvious that the Tories are incompetent in managing public finance, unless it’s continue to benefit the privileged (and/or themselves). It isn’t a magic money tree, it will just be a fairer tax system and less pay-offs for the cabinet’s friends that will fund these much-needed public services - as it should be.

As I’ve said, what a sorry state of affairs when we only have the option to choose the least worst party.

Unfortunately, some posters seem to think it’s okay to post untruths as fact. People are basing their voting intentions on lies such as this.

@TulipPower1981

This is from a website of a company offering tax advice.

Whilst private school fees are not a tax deductible expense for Corporation Tax purposes, you can structure the shareholding of your family company such that private school fees are funded from profits and use up the children's tax free allowances.

I’ve never voted Tory and I certainly don’t agree with Brexit but I have become tired of nonsensical claims of how they’re “evil”. In reality, a Labour government is unlikely to be hugely different and they haven’t even told us what their policies are. Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t make them evil.

in reality to govern is to choose. We need to be more honest about that. If we want better public services we either have to take funding from elsewhere or pay more taxes. We can’t have everything we want all the time, that’s not real life. Time to grow up.

What are these claims of “pay offs”? Who do you allege receive these and why? How much were they?

I can't wait to see the back of the Tories, Rishi will be on the first plane to the States after losing, never to be heard of again. I'm one of the so called workshy disabled & what they are planning is nothing short of barbaric & cruel. They have rigged the economy to help out their friends & donors, pre warning the hedge fund managers so they can make a killing. They have no interest in fighting to get back the money from the PPE scandal, Michelle Mone has no worries of getting caught. The whole country did the right thing during the pandemic while they partied people were dying on their own & who can forget the Queen sat on her own at her husband's funeral but the Government held a boozy party the night before? The sooner they are gone, the better.

So that completely contradicts your claim that school fees can be offset against tax liability. Even if that website was a source of reliable information it still contradicts your claim.

This seems like a bit of a mish mash of conspiracy theories. Quite how any government could “rig the economy” without us all noticing I don’t know.

Michelle Mone is the subject of a criminal investigation- I don’t know the progress and neither does the general public. Much work has been done to recover Covid monies wrongly paid including PPE not supplied or not supplied to correct specifications. Eg the company linked to Michelle Mone was sued under one of its contracts as the PPE was not usable. They did get some penalties for Covid parties tho. I suppose that bit is accurate at least.

I worry about Labour being voted in - I was a huge Tony Blair supported and felt euphoric in 1997 but for the first time ever I am likely to vote Conservative. Nothing to do with the private school tax issue but the gender issue is I feel the most significant issue of the generation.

Jeez - it's not just about your family finances you know !

Everyone has the right to decide what is the issue they want to focus upon when they vote

I will never get why people think taxing private schools won’t mean that a whole pile of children will not be moved to an already struggling government education system.

For all the people who think taxing private schools is fab idea - I hope you put your money where your mouth is and ask your local politician to ensure their party provides adequate support in government schools for children with Sen needs. Because a lot of parents have moved their children private because they have sen needs which are not being supported in government schools.

It’s just daft to think everyone sends their child to a private school because of elitism - some people work hard and sacrifice life style choices to provide private education with small class sizes to their kids with Sen needs because they were struggling in their local schools.

It also never ceases to amaze me that people are so anti people with wealth - I mean where does everyone think all the money comes from to prop up the social care system? The high earners already pay 50% in tax - if they lose their incentives to stay in the uk - some of them will start thinking about moving themselves and their money and therefore their tax payments elsewhere. No matter how much anyone wishes for it - reducing the high earners in a country doesn’t make economic sense.

If Starmer gets this right - and by that I mean he gets his campaign managers to get the media on his side, which is very likely - the Tories will be booted into oblivion for at least the next generation.

And fucking good riddance. Shitehawks.

"The high earners already pay 50% in tax - if they lose their incentives to stay in the uk - some of them will start thinking about moving themselves and their money and therefore their tax payments elsewhere."

"Some"

Many of the highest earners already park their money offshore. If they want to leave, I'll help them pack.