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To think it’s not ‘cruel’ to take DD to the gym at 7.30am

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Eastie77Returns · 04/05/2024 10:01

I attend an early gym class every Saturday morning. I leave the house around 7am.

I leave DS and DD at home with DP. He takes DS to football practice around 9am and DD tags along but she has become increasingly unhappy about having to go. I therefore gave her 2 other choices: come to the gym with with me or stay at home alone for 10/15 minutes as I’m home from the gym by 9.15-am latest. This morning I asked her what she wanted to do (I gave her the options earlier in the week so she had time to consider). She began complaining loudly saying none of the options were good ones and she just wanted me to stay at home with her. I explained that I was not prepared to miss my class and in the end she decided to come with me. As we were leaving DP began muttering that’s it’s unfair and cruel to drag her to a gym at the crack of dawn when Saturday morning should be her down time.

If it makes any difference, it’s a David Lloyd gym. DD is a member and she enjoyed a breakfast in the restaurant area and read a book while I did my class. She played with another girl in the play area and the two of them have signed up for a taster kids class so she was fine. But I’ve now received a text from my dad saying he’s heard (obviously from DP) from that “poor DD is being dragged to a gym on Saturdays” so she can stay with him on Friday evenings if she prefers. Obviously I would be expected to drop off and pick her up. I said no.

AIBU to think this is a load of fuss about absolutely nothing?

OP posts:
Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 04/05/2024 21:28

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 21:26

This is not "bowing to her every demand" - these are massive things, she needs her sleep, she needs not to be frightened

She does not need anymore sleep.
Most children get up before 07:30. She probably does it throughout the week

LondonFox · 04/05/2024 21:29

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 21:23

yes there is, because if she goes, she either disrupts her child's sleep or frightens her

Please don't have children.

11y old is perfectly ok to decide to wake up at 7 at the weekend or stay 15min home alone.
She can nap dyring the day if she wants to catch up on sleep. It will help prepare her for university, internships and jobs.
Children don't need slaves, they need parents.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 04/05/2024 21:31

I'm surprised that you seem to be more annoyed with your 11 years old's genuine fear/anxiety about bieng left alone, than you do about your DP's clearly bullshit anxiety about driving.

I would start by refusing to be his taxi any longer for starters. No idea why you are putting up with his bullshit.

thepastinsidethepresent · 04/05/2024 21:31

ChedderGorgeous · 04/05/2024 20:14

It sounds like you are being unnaturally cruel to your daughter. On her weekend off from school you are making her decide between watching you faff around at the gym, going to football she is not involved in, or staying home alone (and waking up alone potentially). As a mother you need to re-evaluate how you treat your children and put them before your own needs sometimes.

'Cruel'??? To do something that doesn't revolve around her children once a week when there are perfectly acceptable options available to her DD? Come off it. She's hardly going to be mentally scarred from this.

It really is no wonder so many kids grow up thinking the world revolves around them these days. Part of a parent's job is to model that it doesn't, and to teach compromise.

Janiie · 04/05/2024 21:35

BrickSnail · 04/05/2024 21:07

It's a David Lloyd, she'll be fine. But could your daughter maybe be incorporated into a rebels class if yours do them and if you fancied? Ours do ignite rebels and blaze rebels (I'm not a fan of blaze but I love the ignite classes). But apart from that she'll be fine. I don't think non-David Llyoders understand the family feel of them

Grin
CaptainCarrot · 04/05/2024 21:38

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 21:26

This is not "bowing to her every demand" - these are massive things, she needs her sleep, she needs not to be frightened

Who are you to say she needs more sleep? The OP says her child often chooses to get up extremely early at weekends.

And the way to deal with irrational fears is not to pander to them. It's to work through them, to face them head on. Helping the child to cope with being alone will be to her benefit. Recent studies have shown that the rise in mental health problems among children and teens is in part directly related to the deprivation of opportunities for independence that so many young people experience nowadays.

Brefugee · 04/05/2024 21:42

Eastie77Returns · 04/05/2024 20:42

Well the responses from some on this thread have been amongst the most batshit I’ve seen in 11 years on MN and that’s saying something. I won't bother responding directly to @sheoaouhra @LLMn or @ChedderGorgeous because you can't argue with crazy😅

Re DP and the driving. I’ve posted about him previously, I won’t bore with the details but there have been ongoing issues with his ‘parenting’ style. With regards to driving, he has variously claimed that he feels dizzy when in the drivers seat or it is just too stressful. However he has jumped in the car to pick up relatives and friends from the airport, pick up items he's bought from eBay sellers and also to transport his (now dead) dog to the vets on many occasions so his excuses are BS really. I think it's easier for him to continue pretending he can't drive so that the bulk of all required driving is left to me. Every year I drive the 5/6 hours to our UK holiday destination and then do all the driving when we are there. Ditto for all other breaks. I've suggested refresher/confidence driving courses. He said he'll 'look into it'.

tbh i think yu should sack him off - you'll have way more time for the gym then.

As for all the "but 11 year olds like to chill" well, i went to boarding school and we got to sleep in for half an hour saturday and sunday until 7:30! and Saturday we had school lessons from after breakfast until lunchtime. Then on Sunday we had 1,5 hours of church right after breakfast. Something like Dotheboys Hall but for girls!

Just to reinforce the point: OP you're fab. keep it up!

TeaGinandFags · 04/05/2024 21:43

Your heinous crime, OP, is that you are choosing to have a life.

Ignore the silly sods.

If the gentlemen feel that DD is being abused, then they should stay home and babysit her. If they are not prepared to do so, then they should file their opinions where the sun shines not.

GrumpyMiddleAgedCow · 04/05/2024 21:48

I’m a bit confused (sorry if you’ve answered and I missed it) but you leave 7:30 for a 45min class and get home at 9:15 so guessing 30ish min travel each way. DH leaves at 9:00 for football with DS has access to your car but chooses not to use it (for reasons, which I agree, belonging to a whole other thread). How do you get to the gym if you leave your car at home for him to use, could you maybe take the car rather than walking/getting the bus that way you would be home sharper from your class so everyone wins? X

TeaGinandFags · 04/05/2024 21:49

And take the useless tit off your insurance. Give them a call and see if you get a reduction with him off it.

WhistPie · 04/05/2024 21:50

OP, have you thought of giving up work outside of the house so that you can be around for your children 100%? Going to school at break and lunchtime to give them a reassuring wave? And if they want to go to university, make sure that they can live at home so that you can have dinner ready and clean clothes laid out every day?

WhistPie · 04/05/2024 21:53

GrumpyMiddleAgedCow · 04/05/2024 21:48

I’m a bit confused (sorry if you’ve answered and I missed it) but you leave 7:30 for a 45min class and get home at 9:15 so guessing 30ish min travel each way. DH leaves at 9:00 for football with DS has access to your car but chooses not to use it (for reasons, which I agree, belonging to a whole other thread). How do you get to the gym if you leave your car at home for him to use, could you maybe take the car rather than walking/getting the bus that way you would be home sharper from your class so everyone wins? X

Edited

She could use the car to go to the gym, come home in it and half an hour later, her DH could use it to go to football in 20 mins instead of faffing around on public transport for over an hour

TruthorDie · 04/05/2024 21:56

@Eastie77Returns oh, god the martyrs are out in force! I seriously don’t see the problem. You have given her options but is still moaning. That’s just life. It’s really not terrible to do something for yourself on a Saturday morning. It’s all about everyone else -your daughter, your dad sticking his nose in, sons football and your partners allergy to driving. Good on you for not being crushed in the middle. I wouldn’t make any changes, apart from facilitating your partners avoidance of driving maybe

semideponent · 04/05/2024 21:57

I wonder what your DD's best morning would be? What would she really like?

TruthorDie · 04/05/2024 21:58

WhistPie · 04/05/2024 21:50

OP, have you thought of giving up work outside of the house so that you can be around for your children 100%? Going to school at break and lunchtime to give them a reassuring wave? And if they want to go to university, make sure that they can live at home so that you can have dinner ready and clean clothes laid out every day?

That sounds too selfish to me. OP surely should be IN school and IN university to give them the support they need. They are only young once! They need her support 24/7 for 50 years.

Runnerinthenight · 04/05/2024 21:58

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 19:56

There are lots of things you cant do when you are a parent, because you have to parent. That is what you signed up to

That's bullshit.

LuckySantangelo35 · 04/05/2024 21:59

This @sheoaouhra how could you possibly argue with this ⬆️

LuckySantangelo35 · 04/05/2024 22:00

semideponent · 04/05/2024 21:57

I wonder what your DD's best morning would be? What would she really like?

@semideponent

ok..?

Runnerinthenight · 04/05/2024 22:00

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 20:00

no, she doesn't have a choice, because the other option frightens her. So on her day off, she is made to get up and go out, possibly many hours before she would choose to. There is no reason for this. Only that her mother wants to do a gym class. Which she could do at home online.

You can't do a bloody gym class online! Clue is in the word, "class"!!

Runnerinthenight · 04/05/2024 22:04

ChedderGorgeous · 04/05/2024 20:14

It sounds like you are being unnaturally cruel to your daughter. On her weekend off from school you are making her decide between watching you faff around at the gym, going to football she is not involved in, or staying home alone (and waking up alone potentially). As a mother you need to re-evaluate how you treat your children and put them before your own needs sometimes.

Frankly this is insane!!

Children don't rule everything! "Unnaturally cruel" - there's something extremely bizarre about your thinking!

I think the OP is putting her kids first for the entire week, bar 45 fucking minutes - and her DD has options!

Runnerinthenight · 04/05/2024 22:05

watermelonsugar56 · 04/05/2024 20:19

You are allowed a life and we all know time on your own is obviously very important when you have dc so you don’t lose your mind. But imo you’re giving your 11 year old a bit of a rubbish choice. No chance 11 year old me would want to go to the gym at 7am with my Mum and I’d be raging if she did make me. At that age I probably wouldn’t care about being left alone but it seems that she does? Perhaps she’s scared of someone breaking in or an accident happening with nobody else in the house. As she is a child, she is bound to be unreasonable because she doesn’t think like an adult. She’s not going to be thinking “well it’s a bit much to miss her class but hey ho, that’s my decision, so tough shit Mum”.

So is the class really that important? She is your daughter, who needs you, not some controlling partner. I could be wrong but don’t think a lot of 11 year olds deliberately manipulate people. She just doesn’t want to go there at that time or be alone. Hope you are able to get it sorted one way or another. Xx

Wise up! She got to go and have a lovely time with her friend and have breakfast. Sounds like a treat to me personally...

11 year old me would have, and did, do what my parents told me.

Runnerinthenight · 04/05/2024 22:06

ChedderGorgeous · 04/05/2024 20:21

Not at the expense of her poor DD, stuck between a rock and a hard pilates

Oh grow up!

marmiteoneverything · 04/05/2024 22:08

sheoaouhra · 04/05/2024 21:26

This is not "bowing to her every demand" - these are massive things, she needs her sleep, she needs not to be frightened

She’s happy walking to school on her own, so I very much doubt she’s actually ‘frightened’ by being alone, in her own home, for a planned 15 minutes during daylight. She just doesn’t like it very much because she’s not used to it.

bloodyplumbing · 04/05/2024 22:09

@ChedderGorgeous unnaturally cruel...... WTF!?!

😬

EconomyClassRockstar · 04/05/2024 22:09

I havne't read the whole thread (or even any of it) except for the age of DD. I would just let her chose on a weekly basis. If she feels ready to get up and going you, she comes and if not, she stays home. If you can't trust an average 11 yo home alone for 15 minutes, you're doing something wrong.

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