To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

[Welovecrumpets]

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

I agree actually. I can point to failings, but I can see how some policies improved the lives of children. I was particularly impressed with sure start centres. Reeves agrees that they were great in so many ways for children but has been plain that they won't attempt to re-establish them.

The behaviour issues.
Lack of suitably qualified teachers.
Violence
Strikes
Very large class sizes.
No individual teaching or attention.

I'm not a Tory or Labour supporter. I'm actually a Green Party supporter, but where I live the only choice will be Tory or Labour.

These current Tories have been so terrible in so many ways that I wouldn't vote for them for any reason at this point.

Governance instead of Self interested chancers with no regard for their party, the truth, law and order or the UK.

Liz Truss beat them to it.

That's a no then?

The party I want doesn’t exist, I suppose the closest likeness would be New Labour under the early days of Blair. I also want a party who isn’t ashamed to remind the public that for services to be provided it all costs money that they must provide. I want decent hard working people to be rewarded and not held to ransom by those with self imposed ‘needs’.

Why would they be out of their depth? Because they aren't all lying corrupt thieves like the current incumbents?

I don't have children at school. Mine are adults.

I'm not saying Labour aren't good. They haven't published their manifesto yet so I don't know.

I'm saying I can't vote for these current Tories after the awful things they have done. An example: Children's Mental Health Services might as well not exist anymore after they've massively underfunded it, while giving ridiculous contracts to their mates.

There's no way I would ever vote for people that treat children that way. And that's only scratching the surface.

My vote is Not Tory.

That’s quite an allegation in relation to identifiable individuals. I assume you will be supplying the evidence to MNHQ in case of any libel claims?

You've been watching too much Grange Hill.

Right back at you 🏓

Yep the banks were all free market capitalists until they needed our money to bail them out and then unlike all our industries they couldn't be allowed to fail. Socialists when it suits them - same as privatised water companies.

Do you work in state schools at the moment?

You sure?

But when they WERE at school, you didn't want them mixing with the riff-raff in the state sector?

So again, there is no positive reason to choose them; they just aren’t the other guys.
And when they are a disaster the resulting collapse of faith in democratic politics to deliver a decent government could be very dangerous.

Starmer will be usurped in short order ...

Yes, I'm expecting that too

He might offer a relatively moderate appearance to avoid frightening the horses and risking another Corbyn situation, but once Momentum and the Chris Williamson types on the constituency committees get going again I doubt he'll last long

Are you serious? Libel claims? This is politicians we're talking about. Are you seriously trying to paint the Tories as a party of honest upstanding folk? If so you may be interested in a bridge I have for sale.

You think Labour aren't corrupt and don't have questionable MP's? They are as bad as each other. It isn't just a Tory thing.

What I expect and what I'd like are probably not the same things.
But my top ten things I'd like sorting out are, in no particular order of importance to me:

1 Talk to the EU about their proposed youth mobility scheme, so youngsters can travel to and study in EU countries again easily.

2 Ban pavement parking and invest in cycling and active travel

3 Legislate to sort out noise and air pollution

4 Invest properly in education and retention of teachers (I read recently that Australia has problems retaining teachers too so it's a wider problem than just the UK, or just England and Wales) and invest in apprenticeships and adult education as well

5 Further legislation on consumer protection to make companies talk to customers instead of fobbing them off with bots

6 Renegotiate the GP contract and sort out primary care. It takes longer to train doctors than nurses, so train more nurses to work as nurse practitioners in the meantime and to do the more routine appointments.

7 Get rid of employee NI and just have income tax

8 Don't get rid of inheritance tax

9 Remove interest from student loans and also allow students to borrow more if they want to, if it's a loan why is there a limit?

10 Safeguard womens single sex spaces.

I am not sure any of those will get done (or not done) except 8.

Not according to the threads on here.

This

Where are people getting this absolute shite from ?