Page 7 | To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

Welovecrumpets · 2024-05-03T12:41:41+00:00

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

pinotnow · 03/05/2024 16:14

Marjoriefrobisher · 03/05/2024 16:07

this is desperate stuff. A local Labour Party having to go back two decades to give people reasons to vote for them, because the current leadership is so utterly bereft of ideas and ability.
what a shitshow

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Umm, they've been out of power for 14 years so they have gone back, er, 14 years, to list everything they did when last in power. Not sure how that is desperate, but, as I said, I appreciate it's a difficult time for you. Thoughts and prayers and all that.

I do wonder what a Tory version of the list will look like when they try and compile all their achievements from the last 14 years.

Um, gay marriage... and, er, vaccine roll out, er......

Marjoriefrobisher · 03/05/2024 16:15

EasternStandard · 03/05/2024 16:13

Because she’s not alone in her beliefs and take on gender stuff.

I dread more of that.

There’s no point in looking at the 90s completely different. I know you are excited. I just can’t see it, the realism on this thread seems more likely.

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Look on the bright side. Maybe little Keir will get the chance to tell us a bit more about the 1% of women with a penis. Every cloud etc

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/05/2024 16:15

They’ve just been out so long people have nostalgia

Some also have very short memories,@EasternStandard, whereas others can remember - despite all the blather about Labour improving public services - that when they were last in power those working in these moaned just the same

frankentall · 03/05/2024 16:15

HermioneWeasley · 03/05/2024 13:52

I expect women’s rights and child safeguarding to be abandoned on the altar of gender ideology

i expect our foreign policy to be dictated by anti semites and British Jews to feel wholly unsafe

i expect education to be a mess when people who can’t afford to pay VAT on private school fees scramble for places

i don’t expect any appreciable improvement in public services because there isn’t any money and Labour will support workers striking (which is sometimes legitimate and in other cases not) - trains will continue to be an unreliable and expensive shit show.

Angela Raynor’s workers rights bill is so bonkers even some unions think it’s mad, so we can look forward to companies being hesitant to hire people and rising employment costs keeping the prices of everything high.

don’t get me wrong, I think the tories are a shit show as well. I just think things won’t be any better under Labour.

Rayner.

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:16

I wish these sorts of posters would be honest and say they are Tories instead of pretending to be reluctant Labour voters.

The best thing after the election will be these annoying posts going away.

Well second best after this current bunch of arseholes in charge hopefully fucking off 🤞🏼

Marjoriefrobisher · 03/05/2024 16:17

pinotnow · 03/05/2024 16:14

Umm, they've been out of power for 14 years so they have gone back, er, 14 years, to list everything they did when last in power. Not sure how that is desperate, but, as I said, I appreciate it's a difficult time for you. Thoughts and prayers and all that.

I do wonder what a Tory version of the list will look like when they try and compile all their achievements from the last 14 years.

Um, gay marriage... and, er, vaccine roll out, er......

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If you can’t see the problem with a party using the policies of two decades ago rather than their plans for the future to persuade us to vote for them I’m not sure I can make it any clearer for you. But you are fortunate to be so easily pleased.

EasternStandard · 03/05/2024 16:17

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:16

I wish these sorts of posters would be honest and say they are Tories instead of pretending to be reluctant Labour voters.

The best thing after the election will be these annoying posts going away.

Well second best after this current bunch of arseholes in charge hopefully fucking off 🤞🏼

You’ll have loads of posters talking about Labour failings don’t worry.

GreekDogRescue · 03/05/2024 16:19

Suspect they will bankrupt the country. Dreading it.

Giglebtink · 03/05/2024 16:19

HermioneWeasley · 03/05/2024 13:52

I expect women’s rights and child safeguarding to be abandoned on the altar of gender ideology

i expect our foreign policy to be dictated by anti semites and British Jews to feel wholly unsafe

i expect education to be a mess when people who can’t afford to pay VAT on private school fees scramble for places

i don’t expect any appreciable improvement in public services because there isn’t any money and Labour will support workers striking (which is sometimes legitimate and in other cases not) - trains will continue to be an unreliable and expensive shit show.

Angela Raynor’s workers rights bill is so bonkers even some unions think it’s mad, so we can look forward to companies being hesitant to hire people and rising employment costs keeping the prices of everything high.

don’t get me wrong, I think the tories are a shit show as well. I just think things won’t be any better under Labour.

Yep.

All of that plus Labour are going to target benefit claimants and disabled people.

Starmer will be usurped in short order and they won’t last long..

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:19

Marjoriefrobisher · 03/05/2024 16:17

If you can’t see the problem with a party using the policies of two decades ago rather than their plans for the future to persuade us to vote for them I’m not sure I can make it any clearer for you. But you are fortunate to be so easily pleased.

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So many people hate this self-serving, corrupt bunch, they will vote for anyone who seems vaguely normal. They don't even have to be great, just not sacks of crap.

It's the Tory's own fault for being so corrupt and self-serving. If they did an even half-decent job, they'd have nothing to worry about.

Desecratedcoconut · 03/05/2024 16:20

I expect there will be a lot of people feeling pretty crestfallen wondering why nothing has changed very much bar the amount of tax they are paying. They'll have plenty to talk about when the novelty of a change in colour wears off.

edwinbear · 03/05/2024 16:23

But we will be governed by sensible, able, mainly decent human beings who will be doing their best for the country they lead

Like Angela Rayner, who fibbed about where she was living to tax dodge?

Allnormalhere · 03/05/2024 16:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/05/2024 16:15

They’ve just been out so long people have nostalgia

Some also have very short memories,@EasternStandard, whereas others can remember - despite all the blather about Labour improving public services - that when they were last in power those working in these moaned just the same

I remember a teachers' strike in 2008 (when Labour were in power) so things couldn't have been that great...

Desecratedcoconut · 03/05/2024 16:23

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:19

So many people hate this self-serving, corrupt bunch, they will vote for anyone who seems vaguely normal. They don't even have to be great, just not sacks of crap.

It's the Tory's own fault for being so corrupt and self-serving. If they did an even half-decent job, they'd have nothing to worry about.

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Another labour supporter with an incredibly low bar. Do you have any tangible and observable expectations of a Labour government?

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:23

Giglebtink · 03/05/2024 16:19

Yep.

All of that plus Labour are going to target benefit claimants and disabled people.

Starmer will be usurped in short order and they won’t last long..

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Do you live in upside down land?

Do you think this government have been looking out for women, disabled people and benefits claimants?!

You might as well post that The Green Party are planning to cut down all the trees and take up whale harpooning. It would be as believable.

frankentall · 03/05/2024 16:25

All the pathetic Tory apologists bleating about higher taxes if Labour win have evidently missed the fact that we're already paying the highest taxes for 70 years under a Tory government. Saying you are a low tax party but then imposing higher taxes only appeals to the exceptionally dense.

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:26

Desecratedcoconut · 03/05/2024 16:23

Another labour supporter with an incredibly low bar. Do you have any tangible and observable expectations of a Labour government?

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Do you have any tangible and observable expectations of the Tories getting any better?

Surely it makes more sense to vote for the party that might not be a steaming pile of shit than one who has proven that they are.

Giglebtink · 03/05/2024 16:26

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:23

Do you live in upside down land?

Do you think this government have been looking out for women, disabled people and benefits claimants?!

You might as well post that The Green Party are planning to cut down all the trees and take up whale harpooning. It would be as believable.

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This thread is about what we expect from Labour. So I answered that question.

nearlylovemyusername · 03/05/2024 16:26

Bignanna · 03/05/2024 15:12

To sort social care out, and not penalise people with savings who go into care.
To sort out the migrant situation by speeding up processing, and setting a limit on the number of asylum seekers allowed in the U.K.
To overhaul the benefits system, so no one is better off on unemployment benefits than working, and overhaul the pension credits system

How will they fund it if not by huge tax hikes? they will penalise people who have savings for sure.

"and setting a limit on the number of asylum seekers allowed in the U.K." so what happens to seekers who are over the limit? still Rwanda?

Desecratedcoconut · 03/05/2024 16:26

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:23

Do you live in upside down land?

Do you think this government have been looking out for women, disabled people and benefits claimants?!

You might as well post that The Green Party are planning to cut down all the trees and take up whale harpooning. It would be as believable.

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Okay, can you point to one social policy that Labour have announced, or let's say even hinted at, that would result in the improved living standards of the poor or vulnerable?

Allnormalhere · 03/05/2024 16:26

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:16

I wish these sorts of posters would be honest and say they are Tories instead of pretending to be reluctant Labour voters.

The best thing after the election will be these annoying posts going away.

Well second best after this current bunch of arseholes in charge hopefully fucking off 🤞🏼

Ironically, I have never been a Tory voter and voted for Labour in 2019, but I'm so fed up with their woke nonsense and determination to erode the rights of women and children that I'm tempted to vote Tory for the first time ever, to do my bit to keep Labour out!

greengreyblue · 03/05/2024 16:27

Integrity, less sleaze. Improved services. I work in state school education so it’s a no brainer.

frankentall · 03/05/2024 16:27

Moier · 03/05/2024 15:18

Nothing.. they never did anything good in the past. Don't expect it in the future if they do win.

Incorrect.

EasternStandard · 03/05/2024 16:27

frankentall · 03/05/2024 16:25

All the pathetic Tory apologists bleating about higher taxes if Labour win have evidently missed the fact that we're already paying the highest taxes for 70 years under a Tory government. Saying you are a low tax party but then imposing higher taxes only appeals to the exceptionally dense.

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And yet so many demanded that spend, they can’t see the connection to the taxes. Madness but there you go

And yes they can get higher, why not? Someone has to pay for stuff they promise

Marjoriefrobisher · 03/05/2024 16:28

CrappySack · 03/05/2024 16:19

So many people hate this self-serving, corrupt bunch, they will vote for anyone who seems vaguely normal. They don't even have to be great, just not sacks of crap.

It's the Tory's own fault for being so corrupt and self-serving. If they did an even half-decent job, they'd have nothing to worry about.

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So all you’re saying is vote for them because they’re not the other guys. I get it. There’s no positive reasons to make the choice to vote Labour. You’re not actually disagreeing with me.
but when they get in and it becomes clear in the first five minutes that they’re completely out of their depth, what then? That’s what worries me.