To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

[Welovecrumpets]

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

Again with the cynicism, it's almost like taking a leap of faith on a party with no policies, a lot of feelings and anti-reality gender woo tendencies because they aren't the other guys isn't a universally hopeful prospect.

An ‘anti-reality gender’

Sorry I don’t know what you mean?

I’m just responding to the thread question. If you and others find it too hard to deal with differing opinions feel free to hide it.

I’ve found the thread pretty good, some interesting posts so I’ll keep reading.

You do you. It makes zero odds to me if you read it or not.

As for realism annoying you, again so what? Maybe it’ll be better maybe it’ll be worse, I know we’ll likely be ok whatever.

Gender bollocks that defies reality.

Why would I care whether others are worried or not? It's happening anyway so other people's worries, which mainly stem from greed, ignorance, or ingrained cynicism, aren't going to affect me. My point was, it's a bit much to call me and others nasty or whatever it was, when nastily rubbishing people's genuinely felt hopes for the future. It's the sanctimonious comments about how nasty 'the left' are while sticking the knife in that irritated me - like saying I'm laughing at kids in need then staying silent when asked what the plan is for kids who won't be going private regardless of VAT costs. It's annoying. But never mind, it's still a pretty great day seeing the mayoral results come in!

You don't have to worry a jot, but the idea that people have participated in a thread about the prospects of a Labour government with concern ... to rain on your happy day...is precious.

Except this will be depressingly shite that is true.

The Labour posts seem to lean heavily on the 90s or they’ll find the money somehow, bar the poor VAT policy. It’s not that robust.

I think they could have used the opportunity to do something around Brexit but that was decided against ages ago, so long gone for this GE

That's not what I said. To be clear reality is what we are living in now but that’s all exemplary is it? What you are declaring a reality is not that, it is imaginary predictions as Labour are not governing anything at the moment! Indeed, what is definitely concerning is the lack of grip on reality that many posters have, if they can’t see that all the things they are listing as being inadequate and rubbish e.g high taxes, the current state of education and public services etc. are due to the decisions made by the governing party for the last 14 years - just to be clear that is the CONSERVATIVES!

A clearly expressed concern or opinion- fine. What I'm complaining about is crying laughing emojis when people say they expect a fairer society - that's unpleasant, imo. But, as I have said, it's a difficult day for Tories so I suppose we should give some slack...

Well, quite. They could be looking at the rights of those with disabilities (no, says Reeves) or removing the two child benefit cap (no, says Reeves) or re-implementing sure start centres (no, says Reeves) or squashing the bedroom tax that unfairly targets the disabled (no, says Reeves). What the fuck are they going to do that you are so optimistic about?

But gender woo is cheap, you can have that shit in spades.

Yep it’s cheap and only impacts women and children. Great

As for pp complaining people are answering the thread question, well there are other threads surely

Are you able to tell us something the Tories have done right in the last 5 years?

@JessS1990 Covid vaccine?

The NHS and its staff did that. The Tories just took the credit.

Don't worry neither do they.

I see that the London result has set off another round of how terrible Labour are.

Well done Khan.

West Mids is by all accounts very tight. Labour having won Wolverhampton, no wonder one of their Tory MPs is jumping ship next election to move to the seat vacated by Philip Dunne.

Realism is deeply worrying.

The realism that says that Labour has had a resounding victory across England in all manner of areas.
Deeply worrying.

Don't worry neither do they.

I'm not a they, pet.

Well if you support a party that wanted children not to be fed during a pandemic, then probably fairness, kindness and so on, are not high priorities of yours.

Implementing vaccination more slowly than many other comparable countries?
I hardly call that a triumph.

Still not much put forward about Labour and what they’ll do or how they’ll fund it. The sidestepping makes me think there isn’t much there.

Gender stuff is that it?

We’ll see but whatever we’ll be fine here. It’s not concern for us (bar the shit gender stuff for women and dc) but how it will pan out generally.

People do get annoyed at non pro Labour stuff though, otherwise some interesting posts.

People seem to have very selective short memories. Whatever Starmer & Co get up to when they are elected, they are going to look better than the mess we have had for years and they should get their turn. If we use the yardstick of Truss and Kwarteng, whatever they come up with is going to look pretty fucking amazing 😂

You may find this webpage to be of assistance.

https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/10-labour-policies-to-change-britain/

Am I right in thinking the Lib Dems know what a woman is which is why they were 2nd in terms of number of council seats won on Thursday?

Oh god no thanks anyway, it’ll be pro Labour waffle worse than here

On this thread it’s mostly the 90s happened and believe which is a bit Disney

On gender I know you are keen on that ideology it’s not great for women or children though

So nothing, another I don't care what they do, or what policies they implement?

Has voting Labour become another faith based belief system, click your heels three times, repeat the mantra and you are hopeful because you believe?