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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

OP posts:
dottiedodah · 04/05/2024 08:41

Sillyjane I was making the point that our society still seems to excuse men who are vouyers. Whether 26 46 or 66, it's creepy anyway and worse if a teacher looking at his ex pupil..I would be very upset if any one I knew was on there. Young women shouldn't have to feel they need to exhibit themselves like this.but it is seen as acceptable as we live in a patriarchal society where mens "needs" must always be met.Women are killed 2 a week, and hurt on a daily basis.this is just sending a message that we are for sexual gratification

measuringmylifeincoffeespoons · 04/05/2024 08:43

He's not doing anything wrong legally or morally.

Are teachers not allowed to look at porn but the rest of the population is?

Is it ethically wrong for someone to view porn but for the OP's friend to produce it?

If I was the teacher and she reported me I would go after her for GDPR breach.

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:35

measuringmylifeincoffeespoons · 04/05/2024 08:43

He's not doing anything wrong legally or morally.

Are teachers not allowed to look at porn but the rest of the population is?

Is it ethically wrong for someone to view porn but for the OP's friend to produce it?

If I was the teacher and she reported me I would go after her for GDPR breach.

Of course it's morally wrong. No one should be looking at porn.

Sillyjane · 04/05/2024 09:37

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:35

Of course it's morally wrong. No one should be looking at porn.

I don’t agree with you. Porn is legal, and as long as the participants are not coerced and acting of free will, which it sounds like this woman is, then it isn’t your or my place to judge what two consenting adults agree to do when it’s perfectly legal.

JMSA · 04/05/2024 09:39

He's disgusting.

PropertyManager · 04/05/2024 09:39

measuringmylifeincoffeespoons · 04/05/2024 08:43

He's not doing anything wrong legally or morally.

Are teachers not allowed to look at porn but the rest of the population is?

Is it ethically wrong for someone to view porn but for the OP's friend to produce it?

If I was the teacher and she reported me I would go after her for GDPR breach.

This is the crux of the matter, you can moralise all you like, but law is the only thing that counts.

What he is doing is not illegal, nor is what she is doing. She is offering a service which he is subscribing to.

I have an ex pupil and now registered gas fitter of 24 years old service my boiler, it's the same thing, from a legal stand point.

In the case of this teacher and only fans girl, the power imbalance that existed when he was her teacher has long since ceased to exist, you could argue as her customer the balance has shifted.

Some schools do have policies on how long after a pupil leaves you can interact with them socially, but these would be legally unenforceable, the professional standards don't set any timeframe after a pupil leaves at 18, because they can't, legally.

Schools own contact recommendations exist to protect teachers entering into relationships with ex pupils from allegations they started said relationship before the pupil left. They don't cover buying a pupils service, be that boiler servicing, a coffee from their pop up coffee shop, lift in their taxi, or indeed only fans content.

My personal view is that it sounds very seedy from both parties, but my view that OF is seedy doesn't count, it's not illegal.

You would have to prove that something was actively in play before she left school to have any genuine complaint.

If however she discloses details to the school of her customers, she breaches GDPR and he would have a good case against her.

But is she bothered?, she's getting paid for the service she has chosen to deliver.

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:39

Sillyjane · 04/05/2024 09:37

I don’t agree with you. Porn is legal, and as long as the participants are not coerced and acting of free will, which it sounds like this woman is, then it isn’t your or my place to judge what two consenting adults agree to do when it’s perfectly legal.

And I don't agree. Many things are legal, it doesn't mean that they are right or that we shouldn't judge them. Cheating on your partner is not illegal, it doesn't make it right.

Sillyjane · 04/05/2024 09:41

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:39

And I don't agree. Many things are legal, it doesn't mean that they are right or that we shouldn't judge them. Cheating on your partner is not illegal, it doesn't make it right.

Everyone’s morals are different. I personally have no issue with porn, although I don’t watch it myself, and I would never judge how someone chooses to get themselves off, as long as two single consenting adults, it’s fuck all to do with me.

for you all porn is morally wrong and no one should look at it, and that’s fine. You do you.

ObliviousCoalmine · 04/05/2024 12:15

destinationzoo · 03/05/2024 00:50

Your friend is on only fans?
Who her 'fans' are is the least of her problems.

Oh give over.

SocksAndTheCity · 04/05/2024 12:19

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:39

And I don't agree. Many things are legal, it doesn't mean that they are right or that we shouldn't judge them. Cheating on your partner is not illegal, it doesn't make it right.

Cheating on your partner brings an unknowing and/or non consenting person into the situation, which is not the same as one consenting adult creating and selling porn pics or videos to another consenting adult.

In the second example, everybody gets what they wanted and expected, with no ill effect on anyone else. You don't want to buy or sell pictures then nobody is making you, but you don't get to tell other adults what to do.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 04/05/2024 12:19

Beezknees · 04/05/2024 09:35

Of course it's morally wrong. No one should be looking at porn.

Pornography is simply the representation in art or film of sexual acts. You think that in and of itself is morally wrong? If sex isn’t morally wrong, how can the portrayal of it be so intrinsically wrong?

The porn industry is a whole other issue of course. Rotten to the core.

And the particular type of porn that dominates our culture (misogynistic porn) is also a huge problem.

But denouncing all porn as simply bad is incredibly simplistic.

silentpool · 04/05/2024 12:28

She is putting material out there and anyone is free to buy it. If she doesn't like that, she could get a job where she remains clothed.

jacks11 · 04/05/2024 12:41

I don’t think you can be certain he has specifically sought her out- of course, he may have but I don’t think you can be sure. Is she recognisable/using her own name? Does she link to her Only Fans page from another- perhaps more identifiable- social media source? If not it’s possible he has no idea.

Also, if OP reports it I doubt anything can be done. His employer will have no proof other than OP stating her friend said he was a subscriber. His employers have no right to enforce him to disclose anything/anccess his devices etc and as he has not broken any laws, it’s not a police matter. What do you think expect will happen? I doubt they can do anything based on hearsay, surely?

if her friend reports, she’ll still have to provide evidence- no employer can just take her word for it. That is providing private data to a third party and is there for a data breach (different when revealing data to the police where the law has been broken). My understanding is that this is categorically not allowed as he has not broken any laws. Even if he were to have breached his contract of employment (and it would seem different schools have different time restrictions on contact with ex-pupils, so we can’t even be 100% sure he has done that), then that does not (legally) allow op’s friend to breach data rules to give this information to his employer. I suspect she would then have breached her own contract with OF. I’m not sure if any legal ramifications for her should she breach data protection/privacy rules- either from only fans or from the person whose data she passed on.

rwalker · 04/05/2024 14:00

The big question is did he subscribe to her as an ex pupil he tracked down
or Did he stumble in random profile with a bit of free content on something like twitter and subscribe that way unaware it’s her as doubt she uses her real name
and teachers have literally 1000’s of pupils do they remember them all individually , there names and when they look different 5 years later

do we know it definitely him loads of people have the same name

without the answer to the above were just guessing

ShyPearlMoose · 04/05/2024 15:41

Hi all. It's not onlyfans but she has her own website with a payment portal to access it. She's a page 3 model so uses her name on it and it's plastered over her social media. The teacher has a very unique name and he's also used the school as his billing address!!! She's got the receipt for his subscription.
I don't shes gonna say anything though, more bother than it's worth

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Hankunamatata · 04/05/2024 15:45

Unless she wants to report using the school as the billing address then there's nothing to report.

You just have to look at any porn site to see there's a trend for material on younger women

ShyPearlMoose · 04/05/2024 15:45

DOB on his subscription says he's 47. He was the creepy teacher at school that there were always rumours about him being into the girls. She does make videos in little school girl outfits sometimes but not just that

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wellington77 · 04/05/2024 15:46

I’m a state school teacher and In my contract at least it says you have to uphold behaviour which would not put the school into disrepute. I’m not sure if this is the case for all state schools, but I think if he was at my school he would not be living up to this rule. Also my school when I first joined 12 years ago told us teachers to never have anything to do with ex students until 5 years had past- not sure if that’s a rule from the government or not, but I think it’s to do with protecting yourself from allegations of taking advantage of former students, blurring that professional line. I would definitely report.

rwalker · 04/05/2024 15:53

Reading updates the whole thing is vile

OF is one thing but dressing up as a school girl

I think you need to rethink your friendship

PenguinLord · 04/05/2024 16:02

wellington77 · 04/05/2024 15:46

I’m a state school teacher and In my contract at least it says you have to uphold behaviour which would not put the school into disrepute. I’m not sure if this is the case for all state schools, but I think if he was at my school he would not be living up to this rule. Also my school when I first joined 12 years ago told us teachers to never have anything to do with ex students until 5 years had past- not sure if that’s a rule from the government or not, but I think it’s to do with protecting yourself from allegations of taking advantage of former students, blurring that professional line. I would definitely report.

Edited

I wondered about that, but does a private subscription only one person should know he has be a breach of any rules?
He had more likely breached it rules using his account to subscribe, but would her reporting this not be a breach of something too? (no clue just wondering).

scatterolight · 04/05/2024 16:04

The world is so topsy turvy. It's your friend who is getting her snatch out to any old randoms on the Internet. And now she clutches her pearls Victorian-style about who might be looking? What about the hundreds / thousands of other subscribers? Some of them might be rapists or domestic abusers. Others might be acquaintances or family. They're all wankers by definition. If you can't stomach the clientele perhaps don't do it?

wellington77 · 04/05/2024 16:07

PenguinLord · 04/05/2024 16:02

I wondered about that, but does a private subscription only one person should know he has be a breach of any rules?
He had more likely breached it rules using his account to subscribe, but would her reporting this not be a breach of something too? (no clue just wondering).

Edited

Unfortunately I have no idea, it might be worth asking the police maybe, or a lawyer just casually about where you stand with the law.

Kitkatfiend31 · 04/05/2024 16:30

She is the one with on Only Fans. As others have said are only people in certain jobs allowed to watch these things? What if it was her doctor or local bus driver? If she doesn't like it don't do it!

PropertyManager · 04/05/2024 16:40

wellington77 · 04/05/2024 16:07

Unfortunately I have no idea, it might be worth asking the police maybe, or a lawyer just casually about where you stand with the law.

If he has used the school email or postal address then his actions would almost certainly breach his contract and professional standards.

Other than that he hasn't broken any enforceable rules - the 5 year guidance is more about protecting teachers than ex pupils.

Many of us stay in touch with numerous ex pupils post A level for any number of legitimate reasons, or just to keep in touch.

But this is different because she is running a business, and he is buying her service (content) they are not in touch as such, or carrying on a relationship.

Its no different in essence to my former pupil being my boiler guy, I use his services as a gas engineer, I'm not a friend or social contact - different kind of business of course, but both are perfectly legal.

However, if he has used, as I previously said the schools email address in his registration, that's a sackable offence because it is linking the schools IT to adult material, and regardless of whether that is legal adult material it is still strictly forbidden.

So, there may be a cause for concern. She can legitimately contact the school IT department and advise of her concern, as she has a duty, as a producer of adult content to ensure, as is reasonably practical that minors can't get access. that would not be a GDPR breach IMHO.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 04/05/2024 16:44

So first it was only fans
Now she's a page 3 model using her own name and she's doing videos in a school uniform. When she was at school you all thought he was creepy. I'm not saying for a minute that he's not but yet here she is dressing up as a school girl? Just what kind of clientele did she think she was going to attract?
If she wants to take her clothes off and prance around for money that's one thing, but dressing up as a school girl then getting creeped out by who is looking at her? Doesn't make sense