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That colleague made comment about ginger babies

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CheesexCrackers · 02/05/2024 11:30

To be annoyed about a colleague making comments about ginger hair?

A colleague has recently come back from maternity leave and was talking about her dd.

She said she's so glad she's got brown hair, it would be the worst to have a ginger baby, I would of hated to have a ginger baby it would of been horrible.... she then glanced around the room and noticed my hair and made an awkward face.

I'm pregnant with my first and may well have a red haired baby, which I would personally love.

Is it the pregnancy hormones talking or am I right to be pissed off that she's targeting red hair.... and even red haired babies??

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ControlShiftDelete · 02/05/2024 20:30

I never understood why ginger hair gets such a rough time in the UK. In my home country ginger hair is worshipped as it's such a beautiful colour.

JMSA · 02/05/2024 20:42

What an absolute bitch!

JMSA · 02/05/2024 20:43

Meant to say, very best wishes with your pregnancy!
I'm blonde but have two red-headed daughters and they're gorgeous!

Pancakeorcrepe · 02/05/2024 20:56

This says so much more about her than about you. She is ridiculous, rude and immature.

wanttokickoffbutcant · 02/05/2024 21:11

My daughter was born bald, went pure blonde, then a lovely red, back to blonde and now seems to be going to a bland light brown like me. I would love her to have a natural vibrant colour.

I also read either on here or somewhere else on line that a mum made her son break up with his girlfriend who was a redhead as she didn't want "ginger" grandkids....he married a blonde and had ginger kids...the ex girlfriend had two blonde kids....

So rude to make comments like that.

LibbyL92 · 02/05/2024 21:13

My best friend is ginger, and she is the most beautiful person I’ve seen.
she’s striking and when we’re out the attention she gets is insane!

Grammarnut · 02/05/2024 21:45

ABwithAnItch · 02/05/2024 19:39

I’ve never gotten my head around the British hatred of red hair. It’s just weird. Would love someone to explain it. Red hair is gorgeous.

Danes. Had red hair. Irish slavers crossing to Wales and Cornwall, many had red hair. Scots scouring the borders (reivers were from both sides btw), a lot had red hair. That's one origin. Another is sheer stupidity.

Cherrysoup · 02/05/2024 21:58

I have very curly ginger hair, it’s got darker with age, I hope it doesn’t go brown, just because I like it. I have an unofficial curly ginger club at work (in my head!) and last week, one of my Year 8s was telling me about his hair products. He couldn’t care less that his hair is ginger, nor could the lad in my form, also ginger and curly. The two girls in Year 11 dye theirs darker regularly. When it fades, it looks amazing!

Your colleague’s an arse, I’m appalled at her lack of maturity making that stupid comment.

AInightingale · 02/05/2024 22:05

In Ireland it used to be considered unlucky to be 'first footed' in the New Year by a redhead. A red-haired girl I knew had a hissing noise made at her in a far Eastern country once, either Vietnam or Thailand, I can't remember which! They are just ridiculous superstitions, like those around black cats.

cadburyegg · 02/05/2024 22:15

YANBU. I am a redhead. The amount of comments I have had over the years is literally insane. People seem to think that their lighthearted "joke" is funny and unique when in reality we have had it ALL our lives. Silly comments from kids at school, "ginger" "carrot top" to downright bullying "something wrong with you cos of your hair". Carried into adulthood too, I have been shouted at on the bus, overheard comments at the school gates about how they don't want their kids to be ginger. The most recent one that still hurts is when I went out with a friend who dyes her hair a very bright colour, she always gets complimented on it, the first time someone said how nice her hair was she turned round to me and said "no one ever comments on YOUR hair do they, ha ha ha!" She is no longer my friend!

My children are not redheads. Part of me is glad of it because they won't have that to deal with their whole lives. My mum used to tell me that I should have looked at the bullying as being "character building". Sod that. School and life can be brutal enough.

abracadabra1980 · 02/05/2024 23:24

HangryOliveMentor · 02/05/2024 20:24

I think a complaint to HR is the right thing to do at this stage.

It was a particularly vile comment and should not be tolerated, especially in the workplace.

If open prejudice like this is brushed off, it’ll continue.

Totally agree with this. It needs stamping out like any form of racism.

Itsneverme · 03/05/2024 06:40

Rowgtfc72 · 02/05/2024 19:18

@Itsneverme dd is desperate for blond highlights in her very dye resistant auburn hair. She's had strand tests and nothings actually worked or turned it to straw.

Luckily my hair took amazingly and I went platinum blonde from starting out with a few highlights!

Mamette · 03/05/2024 06:46

AddictedToBooks · 02/05/2024 20:11

I'm a natural blonde and always preferred red hair.
I ended up marrying a redhead and our first baby had red hair and she was gorgeous - sadly she passed away so ignorant comments about red-haired babies annoy me so much.

I’m so sorry @AddictedToBooks

Misthios · 03/05/2024 07:54

I also agree that red headed babies get a lot more attention, my red head was my third child and he got so much more attention when I was pushing him round Asda in the trolley or out and about even as a toddler. We went on a family holiday to Portugal when he was about 4 or 5 months old, the local old ladies treated him like a rockstar, they were fascinated by this pale red headed, smiley little boy with the amazing hair and big blue eyes.

I do hope all the people on here who say that they would tackle people who made these offensive comments carry through on this and would actually call people out who voice these ridiculous ideas.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 03/05/2024 07:57

I’m less firey red more mangy fox these days!

lucky enough to have nice green eyes though.

DS is dark but in the summer he gets a dark red tinge through his hair that you see when the sun shines through it.

Oddly I have a small blonde streak in my hair and a couple of jet black hairs in my fringe. Mum was blonde and dad had jet black hair. Weird huh?

Sharptonguedwoman · 03/05/2024 08:39

I was a ginger baby-I'd be properly pissed off.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 03/05/2024 10:09

What’s that supposed to mean?

Tuftedandbusted · 03/05/2024 11:16

Can someone please explain why some people think ginger hair is something to be bullied about? Someone said it is anti-Irish, some others said it is the same in France so cant be. What the heck people think is the issue with ginger hair? Is it a racist thing? Fear of the outsider? Is it because it is rare and therefore different than the norm? Superstition (someone mentioned people hissing at them in Vietnam 😮) ?
It is absolutely beautiful and the most amazing hair colour there is in my opinion and I wish I or my kids had the genes for it...

HoneyButterPopcorn · 03/05/2024 12:07

because some people are a-holes?

It’s one of the last ‘isms’ you can merrily throw around without some dewy eyed social warrior calling you out?

MrsAvocet · 03/05/2024 12:56

Tuftedandbusted · 03/05/2024 11:16

Can someone please explain why some people think ginger hair is something to be bullied about? Someone said it is anti-Irish, some others said it is the same in France so cant be. What the heck people think is the issue with ginger hair? Is it a racist thing? Fear of the outsider? Is it because it is rare and therefore different than the norm? Superstition (someone mentioned people hissing at them in Vietnam 😮) ?
It is absolutely beautiful and the most amazing hair colour there is in my opinion and I wish I or my kids had the genes for it...

Edited

Well there isn't a single reason. The roots of all prejudices are ultimately "other- ness" and red hair is rare. It's estimated that only 1-2% of the world's population has red hair and it is now commonest in the UK and Ireland, despite the gene originating in central Asia. It's virtually unheard of in many countries and must seem very odd to people living in some parts of the world. And people often dislike, even fear things which are unfamiliar.
But the fact that some people living in other countries also view red hair negatively does not negate anti red hair sentiment in this country having at least some of its roots in anti Irish/anti Catholic feelings. It's unlikely that a small child calling a red haired classmate names in say, Liverpool, today is doing so knowingly because of those reasons, but turn the clock back 150 years and things would have been very different. And behaviour gets ingrained. I doubt most people could actually give a real reason why they feel that way. But then there's not a lot of logic in any prejudice is there?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/05/2024 13:12

I do hope all the people on here who say that they would tackle people who made these offensive comments carry through on this and would actually call people out who voice these ridiculous ideas.

I will. I already do. I'm left-handed and used to be called names for that, 'cack-handed' being a favourite. As PP said, some people are arseholes and think that whatever nonsense is in their head deserves airing.

I cringe at glorying though, it's just a hair colour. I understand why people do it, it's to offset the nasty comments but at the same time, I think it actually fuels them as something to 'butt against'.

If people would just stop making spiteful comments about anybody's appearance, it would be a very great thing but we can't even do that as adults on MN so what the hell are we teaching our children anyway?

AInightingale · 03/05/2024 13:18

There's also the belief that 'Judas Iscariot had red hair'. As mindboggling as that is, these beliefs did get embedded in religious societies (as ours used to be) and may be passed down. Like that 'black cat -familiar of the devil' thing that I mentioned upthread. Even cat shelters say it's harder to rehome black cats and kittens because people think they're somehow unlucky or have this slightly occult association. Utterly ludicrous but some people are just thick as mince. (And I love black cats and think they're beautiful!)

Grammarnut · 03/05/2024 14:10

Feellikeafailurenow · 02/05/2024 17:20

You are right to be annoyed however as a red head i am glad that neither of my 3 have red hair! They are pale & burn easily like me but have dark browh hair like their dad. It it more “fashionable” now to have red hair with people paying a fortune to try to dye it but personally i always hated having red hair & the bullying that came with it and it took me until my 30s to embrace it and stop dying it.

of course if i had had a baby with red hair i wouldn’t have been upset or embarrassed and would have raised them to value themselves & their “uniqueness” and whilst a healthy baby was all i had hoped for (hair colour wasn’t a worry nor
was gender) i am glad they won’t have a life time of jokes like i did.

i now like my hair, i embrace it & i’d laugh of any ginger jokes but sadly there is still dome people out there who think it is ok to slag off ginger hair or make out there is something wrong with it and i can help being glad it’s one less thing for them
to be ridiculed over. I would still have said something to your colleague.

I understand the historical reasons for not liking red hair (e.g. Danes invading in the 9th and 10th centuries) but not modern dislike. It's weird.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 03/05/2024 16:34

Elizabeth I had red hair, as did Mary Queen of Scot’s and Henry 8th. hmm.

I even stopped buying a kids shampoo when DS was little because it had some stupid story on the back - from memory it was something about going to the moon and people (ridiculously) having orange hair! If they’d said blue hair I could have lived with that - but the fact that orange hair was the most preposterous thing they could come up with really pissed me off.

LoopyLooooo · 03/05/2024 17:37

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/05/2024 13:12

I do hope all the people on here who say that they would tackle people who made these offensive comments carry through on this and would actually call people out who voice these ridiculous ideas.

I will. I already do. I'm left-handed and used to be called names for that, 'cack-handed' being a favourite. As PP said, some people are arseholes and think that whatever nonsense is in their head deserves airing.

I cringe at glorying though, it's just a hair colour. I understand why people do it, it's to offset the nasty comments but at the same time, I think it actually fuels them as something to 'butt against'.

If people would just stop making spiteful comments about anybody's appearance, it would be a very great thing but we can't even do that as adults on MN so what the hell are we teaching our children anyway?

I cringe at glorying though, it's just a hair colour. I understand why people do it, it's to offset the nasty comments but at the same time, I think it actually fuels them as something to 'butt against'.

I agree, kids are not silly and if they're being teased for their hair colour, simpering and going OTT about how 'beautiful, gorgeous, wonderful it is and how some people are really jealous and disappointed their babies weren't born ginger', can come across as fake.

If people stopped with the shitty comments and the bullying, there'd be no need for it and we could teach our kids that hair colour is just that.

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