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That colleague made comment about ginger babies

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CheesexCrackers · 02/05/2024 11:30

To be annoyed about a colleague making comments about ginger hair?

A colleague has recently come back from maternity leave and was talking about her dd.

She said she's so glad she's got brown hair, it would be the worst to have a ginger baby, I would of hated to have a ginger baby it would of been horrible.... she then glanced around the room and noticed my hair and made an awkward face.

I'm pregnant with my first and may well have a red haired baby, which I would personally love.

Is it the pregnancy hormones talking or am I right to be pissed off that she's targeting red hair.... and even red haired babies??

OP posts:
StormingNorman · 02/05/2024 17:25

Shopper727 · 02/05/2024 11:45

She sounds ridiculous, my eldest son is a red head with brown eyes and he is beautiful, it’s such a lovely colour and each person has a different shade of red. However my mum and sister did say to me in hospital that if he came out red headed we could dye it - so were a bit apologetic when I had him, his grandmother (on dads side) and all her brothers were redheads. He’s now 23 and really gorgeous, people are ridiculous about red hair it is so vibrant and beautiful he’s got lovely freckles too. My other sons are dark haired so he’s the only one.

The red hair brown eyes combination is my absolute favourite. I am so jealous anytime I see people like this.

phoenixrosehere · 02/05/2024 17:26

YANBU

I think red hair is absolutely gorgeous and hoped one of our children would have it despite the chances being low.

I never understood the hate against red hair.

Chatonette · 02/05/2024 17:26

What an absolute cow! Imagine saying the sentence and replacing ‘ginger’ with any other group in the minority of the population. It’s completely out of order.

almondflake · 02/05/2024 17:29

I had a ginger baby and watching her hair change from a rose gold to reddish blonde to red to a beautiful auburn over the years has been lovely, her temperament has matched her hair , fiery, kind, sweet and fiercely independent . She's grown into an amazing woman who really rocks the hair that me and her dad (red head) have given her 😍

AStepAtaTime · 02/05/2024 17:34

My DS2 has gorgeous deep red hair. I think he’s stunning & it totally suits him down to the ground. When I took him into the office at 3 months old to show him proudly off my supervisor (a bloke) looked at him and said “He’s ginger.” Nothing else - no congratulations or any compliments. I was so upset.

What a cunt. And this was someone who works as a Practice Lead in a Social Care environment. You couldn’t write it. Prejudice is hard-wired into some people

gloriawasright · 02/05/2024 17:34

Jasmin1971 · 02/05/2024 11:47

Silly woman. Red hair is gorgeous, and we have a higher pain threshold!

And apparently more resistant to general anaesthetic. We gingers are born tough .

BeaLola · 02/05/2024 17:35

Faduckssake · 02/05/2024 11:44

You should have looked her in the eye and said "I'd rather ginger than rude".

This , this and this

Willyoujustbequiet · 02/05/2024 17:40

MoreCraicPlease · 02/05/2024 14:25

I hate this anti-ginger thing even though it doesn’t affect me personally. It only exists in England as far as I can tell - Scotland and Ireland have many people with red hair so embrace it.

Is it thinly veiled racism?

I'm in Northumberland and we have loads of redheads here so it's not just Scotland or Ireland.

OP my daughter has the most amazing hair of anyone I've ever seen in real life and she gets complimented daily. No bullying ever. Your colleague may be jealous.

It is a form of racism imo. However we were always told the hatred was not because of the Scottish/Irish but because of a fear of Viking raids along our North East coast back in the day. Murder, rape and pillage led to a a hatred of the red headed Viking berserkers.

It would explain why its a British thing rather than many other countries.

Willyoujustbequiet · 02/05/2024 17:47

BirdsofAmerica · 02/05/2024 16:11

Well, you've clearly led a charmed life, because it's a very real (and bizarrely, still broadly acceptable) prejudice.

No I think it depends where you live.

We've never experienced any bullying or derogatory comments either. It's just not done here and certainly wouldn't be accepted.

Flufferblub · 02/05/2024 17:50

I was bullied as a child for my ginger hair. People said awful things to me. Kids and adults. Some children with ginger hair have committed suicide from relentless bullying, so it definitely needs to stop and be taken seriously.

Dacadactyl · 02/05/2024 17:52

I wouldn't get worked up about it.

rwalker · 02/05/2024 17:53

I thought ginger had gone full circle and was incredibly trendy now

TeaGinandFags · 02/05/2024 17:55

One word:

Titian

Nuff said.

twilightermummy · 02/05/2024 17:57

My ex has red hair and I really hoped one of our children would too as I just think it's stunning. However, I'll never forget when we went to York for a weekend and a Hen party walked past us and started shouting things about him being ginger. They were brimming with anger and looked disgusted. I'm mixed race and I've never received such overt hatred like that from a group. It did make me think it should perhaps be a protected minority. I'm not sure but people do behave in an ugly way towards red hair. I've witnessed it many times.

Poppalina37 · 02/05/2024 17:59

The funniest thing about this.... If her baby were ginger she'd have absolutely embraced it and loved her all the same.

Some people are guilty of making stupid, unnecessary comments about lots of things.... me included.

One of my friends was pregnant in her 40's.... instead of saying congratulations I said 'sucks to be you!' What an absolute d/ck!!

Well who's laughing now.... the same happened to me the year later! And rightly so.... she reminds me all the time 🙈😅🙄

But actually I'm loving life with her xx please try not to be offended xx I said it without thinking xx

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 18:05

Willyoujustbequiet · 02/05/2024 17:40

I'm in Northumberland and we have loads of redheads here so it's not just Scotland or Ireland.

OP my daughter has the most amazing hair of anyone I've ever seen in real life and she gets complimented daily. No bullying ever. Your colleague may be jealous.

It is a form of racism imo. However we were always told the hatred was not because of the Scottish/Irish but because of a fear of Viking raids along our North East coast back in the day. Murder, rape and pillage led to a a hatred of the red headed Viking berserkers.

It would explain why its a British thing rather than many other countries.

Did Viking really have red hair though? Can’t say I’ve ever met a red haired skandi/danish oerson.

WhycantIkeepthisbloodyplantalive · 02/05/2024 18:07

Everytime I hear somebody 'joke' about ginger hair, I automatically believe they have a below average IQ.

-Said the dark haired ,30 something year old.

Hesma · 02/05/2024 18:07

I have a redhead with green eyes and a strawberry blonde with blue eyes. I’m not a redhead and am do jealous

Mamette · 02/05/2024 18:08

I have red hair as do two of my three DC.

Haven’t heard any ginger comments in years probably because of my strong don’t fuck with me vibe.

However I’m sure the DSs will get their fair share of it in school. I will be teaching them to fight fire with fire if it ever comes up.

Dearg · 02/05/2024 18:09

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 18:05

Did Viking really have red hair though? Can’t say I’ve ever met a red haired skandi/danish oerson.

My sister in law , her brothers, my two nieces - all shades of red. Norwegian. Not unusual colouring there.

HangryOliveMentor · 02/05/2024 18:11

You are obviously not being unreasonable, but you would be unreasonable to let this slide. Time to involve HR or a manger.

MILhere · 02/05/2024 18:12

@MonsteraMama first of all, it's not a joke unless you have the sense of humour of a literal child. I don't think comparing brown body parts to poo is funny, when children actually get bullied for that (me, my child etc). Also, biting back at the expense of the baby is pretty tactless.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 18:13

Growing up (Scotland) never really had bullying as a result of my hair. Just once a big lad from the rough secondary school nearby enquired if I’d ‘haud yer heid up a lassies fanny’ (I was only about 8 at the time so had no idea but one of the girls from the school gave him an earful). I had more when I stared wearing glasses and proper nasty stuff because my big sister is gay.

A few years back some drunken arsehole (out with his slightly less drunk friend) started making rude loud comments about my red hair - to me - when I was out with DH (he was a few steps behind because he’d stopped to look at something).

By the time he caught up I’d gone full Glaswegian banshee and mr smartarse was just standing there in shock with his mouth hanging open. I think it started ‘you fucking WHAT?????’ (and then - as my mother would say - full on for several minutes without repeating myself).

I was so bloody furious - not for me (because he was just an arsehole and I didn’t know him) but because anyone could be so horrible to a complete stranger and would he say that to a child or a random young woman and make them feel like crap?

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 18:15

Dearg · 02/05/2024 18:09

My sister in law , her brothers, my two nieces - all shades of red. Norwegian. Not unusual colouring there.

Really? Wow. I had a Norwegian friend who was rather short and dark - every time she was introduced to someone new she was ‘yes I’m Norwegian, yes I’m short, no I’m not blonde…’

rainbowbee · 02/05/2024 18:18

I dislike the word ginger as it's used as a pejorative so often. I have been othered, singled out and fetishised for red hair my whole life. 'Ginger bitch' was even the snapped insult from a random man I said no to recently enough and I'm 40!
My little nephew is only six and very much in the blonde family with only a hint of strawberry and now he's getting this 'ginger' crap at school too. It's coming from the stupid parents. Like it's not the same as racism but imagine the clampdown if someone was insulting the skin tone/hair of a POC! It needs to stop.
I had a colleague who was disparaging about his 'ginger' brother and his 'ginger' kids and apparently forgot I was there as I'm a good looking woman. (See fetish). I had to keep some manners, don't know how I did it, but I did say it's the last bastion of prejudice and unacceptable in an office never mind anywhere else.
I'm older now and give less fucks. I'd have told your colleague that I hope her perfect little brunette daughter didn't inherit the bullying little bitch gene from her along side her hair colour.