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Company announcement, what could it be?

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bluebag27 · 30/04/2024 14:59

In your experiences, when you have been told there is a company announcement, what has it turned out to be?

I'm currently off work, but have been told there is an announcement tomorrow and that I must attend unless it's absolutely impossible that I can't.

My first thought is redundancies. What else could it be?

OP posts:
PropertyManager · 01/05/2024 23:23

awopbopaloobopawopbamboom · 01/05/2024 11:00

Yep redundancies. You should be "fine" if on Mat leave and must be offered suitable alternative employment (SAE). I've already had this once while on Mat leave, have it again in a few weeks 🙄

Surely that's Self Addressed Envelope??

Probablyfinebutworried · 02/05/2024 00:11

Don't know if it's been mentioned but pregnant then screwed are apparently tly goof at helping you know your rights in the kond of sitiation when you are on mat leave.

penjil · 02/05/2024 00:20

potato57 · 01/05/2024 18:32

Then just visit the mobile website on your phone instead of using the app, works fine on Android.

Maybe she's got other things to do than constantly faff about?! 🙄

bridgetreilly · 02/05/2024 00:34

bluebag27 · 30/04/2024 22:51

We have been told company wide meeting then various smaller meetings throughout the day afterwards.. if it was a merger/takeover surely there would be no further meetings after it?

Could be. Different departments affected differently by the merger. Some redundancies, some relocations, etc.

PigletJohn · 02/05/2024 00:51

Paul2023 · 01/05/2024 14:23

May I just add that anyone can join a trade union, your workplace doesn’t have to be unionised. You don’t have to have a workplace union rep ( sometimes called shop stewards).

Your work place doesn’t to need to know you're in a union, but if you have a grievance or disciplinary you can bring your union rep to the meeting. Your employer can’t stop you as an individual being in a union, even if your empy doesn’t recognise one.

As long as you can afford £10- £15 a month you can join ones such as the GMB or Unite. They usually give you access to legal cover too as most unions have solicitors working on their behalf.

I’ve heard in instances where workers have brought in outside union reps and they’ve ripped the employer to shreds because lots of managers don’t understand employment law.

As long as you’re a member, a rep will travel to you for your meeting, even hundreds of miles away.

We have a Tory government, really consider being in a union.

Edited

True. I was formerly an elected employee rep on redundancy "consultation."

Some parts of the company were unionised and the union rep was experienced and knowledgeable and prevented the company reps steamrollering and bluffing.

Incidentally he also forced the company to pay the Retention Bonus which it had promised me and many other employees if we stayed on when the company got in trouble. It tried to back out and not pay to people who it later decided were going to be laid off.

judgementfail · 02/05/2024 02:25

@PrincessFionaCharming and @weirdoboelady

Your recent comments made me LOL my tits off which is unexpected on a thread about probableredundancy!

mrsdineen2 · 02/05/2024 07:09

penjil · 02/05/2024 00:20

Maybe she's got other things to do than constantly faff about?! 🙄

Weird eye roll considering it's no more difficult to visit on browser than on the app.

Hope you're in a better mood this morning.

Lanawashington · 02/05/2024 11:02

Magicmonster · 01/05/2024 07:52

As an employment lawyer, It’s definitely redundancies. Sorry.

I'm always baffled by people who come here and so confidently state that they definitely know what it is. And as usually happens, you were wrong

SevenSeasOfRhye · 02/05/2024 12:32

Lanawashington · 02/05/2024 11:02

I'm always baffled by people who come here and so confidently state that they definitely know what it is. And as usually happens, you were wrong

The OP was asking for people's experiences - there wouldn't be much point in everyone coming on to say 'I don't know, could be anything.'

If it's a merger, I'm afraid it is likely some redundancies will follow further down the line - once the two companies have worked out how to align their systems and processes, they will strip out duplication.

Magicmonster · 02/05/2024 15:15

mrsdineen2 · 01/05/2024 20:30

In your defence you never said you were a good employment lawyer.

was I wrong?

shoppingshamed · 02/05/2024 16:22

Magicmonster · 02/05/2024 15:15

was I wrong?

Are you sure you're a lawyer? Surely you know better than to state that something is definite when you can't possibly know that

Is your assertion that 100% of meetings as described will be for redundancies? Are you saying that posters who've quoted examples where this didn't happen are liars? Delusional? Misunderstanding?

Magicmonster · 02/05/2024 17:25

shoppingshamed · 02/05/2024 16:22

Are you sure you're a lawyer? Surely you know better than to state that something is definite when you can't possibly know that

Is your assertion that 100% of meetings as described will be for redundancies? Are you saying that posters who've quoted examples where this didn't happen are liars? Delusional? Misunderstanding?

ok, I am obviously not a fortune teller. I’ve just worked on dozens of these exercises and I haven’t ever known an all employee meeting that everyone has to attend - even those on leave - which is to be followed by small group meetings, be anything but a redundancy scenario (maybe merger + or restructuring + redundancy but definitely redundancy).

but if I was wrong OP and worried you unnecessarily then I’m sorry!

shoppingshamed · 02/05/2024 18:06

Magicmonster · 02/05/2024 17:25

ok, I am obviously not a fortune teller. I’ve just worked on dozens of these exercises and I haven’t ever known an all employee meeting that everyone has to attend - even those on leave - which is to be followed by small group meetings, be anything but a redundancy scenario (maybe merger + or restructuring + redundancy but definitely redundancy).

but if I was wrong OP and worried you unnecessarily then I’m sorry!

And that would have been an appropriate thing to past, dozens of instances isn't enough to state anything with certainty was my point

I and others are proof that redundancies are in no way inevitable

Johnthesensible · 02/05/2024 18:31

End of the month is usually a giveaway. Redundancy, restructure, merging...moving. It certainly won't be about a bonus or wage increase.

Lollipop81 · 02/05/2024 18:47

Usually a takeover

OldPerson · 02/05/2024 18:51

Generally always redundancies/ or re-structuring, that co=incidently also means redundancies. That's the only occasion the company absolutely wants every person to hear the same thing at the same time, for the benefit of both employees and the company.

HebburnPokemon · 02/05/2024 18:55

Sooooo what was it OP?

Leedsfan247 · 02/05/2024 18:56

Merger / takeover usually

Testina · 02/05/2024 19:01

HebburnPokemon · 02/05/2024 18:55

Sooooo what was it OP?

She told us yesterday! Use “see all” for OP posts 👍🏻

spookehtooth · 02/05/2024 19:05

Mergers, sales and being bought are often followed by redundancies, eventually. One of the purposes is generally efficiencies/savings, and people are expensive. Its not necessarily something that happens fast and often it won't be admitted. My employer is being bought, and they're calling it "changes" after about 2 years. It'll be getting planned secretly during this time.

Whatever happens though, worry is pointless, I'd just advise factoring the possibility into future plans and have a rough idea how you might adapt should changes occur that requires you to adapt

Newhere321 · 02/05/2024 19:26

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SillyOldBucket · 02/05/2024 19:47

When we had a company announcement, it was to tell us of a merger with another company.

MyTherapistSaidImAnAdult · 02/05/2024 20:40

bluebag27 · 30/04/2024 22:51

We have been told company wide meeting then various smaller meetings throughout the day afterwards.. if it was a merger/takeover surely there would be no further meetings after it?

Or re-structuring, merging teams etc.

Doesn't necessarily mean redundancies.

Last two times I was made redundant there were department meetings, not whole company wide meeting.

PUGMEISTER21 · 02/05/2024 20:51

bluebag27 · 30/04/2024 14:59

In your experiences, when you have been told there is a company announcement, what has it turned out to be?

I'm currently off work, but have been told there is an announcement tomorrow and that I must attend unless it's absolutely impossible that I can't.

My first thought is redundancies. What else could it be?

Restructure

Mellowbear · 02/05/2024 23:09

Redundancies. X