to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

[pepperandapples]

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

I agree with what you have said, but that is social skills. Social capital is something else entirely, like experiences in a choir, going to museums, in child hood, etc

I’m naturally slim but with curves, tall, natural long blonde hair and green eyes. That absolutely is a natural privilege and it does frequently benefit me however, I was born on a rough council estate to a single drunk mum, scraped an education to high school level only and I have a VERY think northern accent which I am 100% judged for…so the disadvantages outweigh the privilege.

My looks (and work ethic to not end up like my mum) has allowed me to do well career wise as I was given certain opportunities purely based on my looks by some very sketchy decision making men when I was younger. I was never taken advantage of though as I saw men do that to my mum my entire life.

I’m a slim woman because I was underfed as a child. My dd who favours me, but was better nourished, is taller and bigger boned than I am. At a healthy weight she might be a 10-12 whereas I am a 6-8.

Because I’m lucky enough to live in a misogynistic social paradigm that fetishises the long term effects of childhood malnourishment, I apparently am privileged.

Totally agree. I was in the supermarket this week and someone in front at checkout had a large trolly overflowing. But barely any actual food items. It was all junk snacks and drinks. Just wasting money that could be spent on real food.

Being a native English speaker is a massive privilege in an international workspace

Is someone who got a first class degree more privileged than someone who dropped out of uni because they couldn’t be bothered to do their coursework? Education itself isn’t a privilege but opportunity for education is. Opportunities are privileges and people have more or less access to these because of their backgrounds and characteristics.

yes it is. This is not something specific to women though

I work in a school and every day see literally hundreds of children with the privilege of being offered and education, but choosing not to take up that opportunity.

Educational opportunities are normally free in this country. Not just for privileged

I have seen schools where the behaviour is so bad that children do NOT have the opportunity to learn. sadly

Gosh I hope my sons don’t come across people like you. Creating a victimhood that will only serve to keep non white people down in society. White saviour syndrome at its very worst.

Overweight people can do something about being overweight mostly-unless it's a medical issue, Being slim isn't a privilege, it's paying attention.

This.

So sick of women always taking the flack without context.
Sick of us being seen as easy targets. Burn the witches on sm so we don't look over there at complexity, at socioeconomics or at misogyny oh no, let's not look at that.

As long as we keep the poor (whether men or women) and women (of all backgrounds) fighting amongst themselves the status quo will remain just dandy and the wealth gap keep growing, thank you very much.

All of which doesn't mean I don't disagree that we could all do with eating healthy food, which isn't always expensive.

I also know that racism is very real and that women from some cultures don't suffer terrible prejudices and mistreatment, not only at the hands of men and not only when they're poor.

Because I can hold several ideas in my mind at the same time.

I just wish there was less sniping about privilege, which is in itself a privileged passtime when you think about it, and more talk about how to support those who don't have the luxury to talk about it.

And yes, I include myself in that last comment.

Lol you answered it yourself, even noticing how poor men are often not fat (although they may have other bad habits).

Ignorance and lack of will power.
Junk food is delicious.
Cooking takes time.
Making a decision to eat salad and fruit instead of cakes and fried food takes will power.

But unless you want to argue that having will power is privilege, own weight is something that majority of people can influence themselves. It is not a privilege. Almost anyone can be slim. But it easier to pig out on junk food.

I agree healthy eating is a choice for many but there are exceptions and sometimes poor diets are the result of someone who is overwhelmed, unhappy and struuglling with other issues. If they can't get on top of their weight then a whole negative cycle steps in that messes them up like yo yo dieting and binging.

It doesn't help always to get lost in justifying it though sometimes discipline and honesty are needed and ( as someone currently overweight) I acknowledge the solutions is choosing healthy basic foods and exercise and keeping to this pattern.

Yes,definitely, esp American accent IME. It comes across as more articulate and to the point . But that's definitely not a gender specific advantage

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Yes,definitely, esp American accent IME. It comes across as more articulate and to the point . But that's definitely not a gender specific advantage

Really? An American accent? I find it hard to believe that's true everywhere. Also, not all American accents are equal, presumably.

Yes,absolutely, irrespective of regional varieties. Americans are to the point,clear and loud (lol). No waffling,no conditional tense, no "at a risk of coming accross slightly incorrect..." or "I suppose it would have been good to consider...."

Same here. But surely that's proof, if any were needed, that it IS a privilege? The nastiness used to really upset me. These days I take it as a compliment 😉

Privilege in that instance is the difference between having to work hard to achieve it and maintain it. Those who don't have to work at it are privileged.

Really? Have you seen the last 2 presidents?

Yes, they can. And, in doing so, improve their social status. THAT'S exactly what this thread is about!

This! That has been exactly my experience, too.

Not all benefits are privilege. A better thread title would have been 'to ask you about different types of luck women can have? e.g slim, educated'.
What is the significance of invoking the word privilege? Is it meant to collapse all forms of differential good fortune into social injustice?

Being slim really isn't luck though.

There are very few circumstances in which somebody can't be slim if they try. I don't deny these exist, but I just don't think you can describe it as luck.

It doesn't make you immune. But take the same person, everything being equal bar the colour of their skin, and you would be even more disadvantaged in general (I need to put "in general", so no one comes back with an individual story).