to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

[pepperandapples]

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

Having had an emotionally healthy upbringing

In terms of accent - think about stereotypes of different accents and assumptions we make about people who speak a particular way. When we hear someone speaking with an RP accent (i.e. speaking like a member of the royal family!), what assumptions do we make? When we hear someone speaking with a Cockney accent, what assumptions do we make? And are the assumptions derogatory or more positive?

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Yeah, right.

Being born into a loving healthy family dynamic that role models positive relationships and protects self esteem. It should be the default, but it so often isn't. And without it, you can be the prettiest, cleveret, wealthiest, best educated women in the world, and you'll still be disadvantaged.

No, being thin is not a privilege to me.

Yes, access to divorce and free contraception (as well as abortion) are good ones that I had not even considered. Have added them to my list.

I think your accent might be one. If you've got quite a neutral accent, I think it might work in your favour. I might be wrong? I think also if you look a lot younger than you actually are, it can work against you in terms of being taken seriously. But then again you'd probably have privelege in terms of physical attractiveness.

You might be interested in reading 'Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race' by Reni Eddo-Lodge

Meaning - you have no control over skin colour%height etc, but you do have some say in your body shape

I agree.

Class is an absolutely massive factor it's true. But race is still relevant. I'll never have to worry about my white boys being stop and searched or racially profiled by police. Their English/Irish names won't be judged on a job application the way an African sounding name would.

Class is one but let's not pretend race isn't. They're not mutually exclusive. Privilege is incredibly layered.

I totally disagree - being tall and slim and looking younger than I am has always caused me to be treated negatively (especially by women)

Not sure why I missed it either. It was on my mental list, just did not note it down. I think because it seems to be THE most obvious on I was looking for less obvious ones.

Being white and middle class or above is privileged in UK terms.

Being white and working class most certainly isn't for either men or women.

In other words, social class is still the main form of privilege in the UK, not race.

Look no further than the current occupant of 10 Downing Street.

@anonima already have. Kept it away from my boys so that they don't form victimhood status.

There are a lot of social factors that contribute towards obesity as well. It's not all about individual choices. People often have a tendency to make derogatory assumptions about overweight individuals and it affects how they are then treated and perceived.

@AlcoholSwab exactly. In fact, the government in general

White LOCAL, not just white. From our expert money/perceived class overrides non white issue pretty quickly in UK

Being white and middle class is a privilege.

The most underachieving group of kids in Britain are white boys.

Oh, here we go 🙄🙄

All personal trait (word??) privilege is complex, whiteness isn't an exception. Unlike wealth. Saying that as a non-white person myself.
In the corporate world I've seen many polished, non-white rich international students get grad jobs and then the top roles over working class white Brits with strong regional accents, who lacked the polish. The former also dominate most of the 'race' diversity and equality programs over British born POC, and poor immigrants who would genuinely benefit.
Everyone then pats themselves on the back for diversity when all they've done is replace rich white people with rich non-white people. That doesn't lead to real diversity of thought, empathy etc.
Of course, if we're comparing two of the latter category, one white and one not, the former has the privilege.

I also don't know what privilege women possess over others in the same category. I'm not beautiful but small sized and somewhat innocent looking, people are always being extra nice to me because I look like a lost child. But that leads to me not being taken seriously at work! Especially in my male dominated role. I've had to be quite aggressively stake my claim and defend my points.

Pointless discussion .

When you go to the doctor do they just assume any health issue is due to your weight and refuse to investigate further?

White & born in the West = more freedom and access to education, health services, protection from abuse than women from the rest of the World.

Any women born in a deprived part of the UK are not privileged and life expectancy can be 40 or 50 years less than those in affluent areas.

Great point

I think people who speak in absolute terms about privilege tend not to have experienced life much outside their own country of birth. It's all relative. Slim isn't better everywhere. White isn't better everywhere. Blonde ditto.

White privilege is definitely the biggest one, POC are often judged or marginalised before they even open their mouths.