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to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

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pepperandapples · 27/04/2024 11:30

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

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BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 19:52

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 19:49

MOST people have control over their weight, whether or not they choose to exercise that control. It is their choice

You’re like a stuck record. We get it. You’re still wrong.

OpalSpirit · 27/04/2024 19:53

Any perceived privilege you have for being seen as attractive women also brings disadvantages.
The idea of privilege is oversimplified.

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 19:53

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 19:52

You’re like a stuck record. We get it. You’re still wrong.

I am not wrong - there are a lot of people in denial about this! But you choose to be fat or thin. It is down to you. In almost all cases

StarlightLime · 27/04/2024 19:54

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 19:52

You’re like a stuck record. We get it. You’re still wrong.

She's not wrong.

ThePoshUns · 27/04/2024 19:56

Of course you can control your weight. You eat less. Up to you whether you choose to or not. 🙄

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 19:57

Of course she’s wrong. People have different metabolic rates, hormones dictate ability to regulate weight - it’s far harder post menopause - and increased age also makes it more difficult. It’s why very young people can eat constantly and never gain an ounce. It’s simplistic and unscientific to keep parroting that weight is a matter of choice.

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 20:02

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 19:57

Of course she’s wrong. People have different metabolic rates, hormones dictate ability to regulate weight - it’s far harder post menopause - and increased age also makes it more difficult. It’s why very young people can eat constantly and never gain an ounce. It’s simplistic and unscientific to keep parroting that weight is a matter of choice.

You are just in denial, it almost always is

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:03

Allfur · 27/04/2024 11:42

I thought privilege was a percieved advantage over others, if exercising and eating well keep you slim, isn't that open to all?

Not if your culture doesn't allow it. Not if your genes are against you. Not if your budget is limited.
Look at your own privilege in your comment

Animatic · 27/04/2024 20:04

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 17:12

It's not a privilege to be slim. It's making choices everyday to eat healthily. It's within people's control.

Not really. Different people have different metabolic rates and it’s much harder for an endomorph to be slim than an ectomorph or a mesomorph.

That's BS people get fed to feel happy about themselves abd their unhealthy choices. Blame it on metabolism rate or what not 😀 for once u can change it by being more of less active.

The majority of overweight people are overweight because of unhealthy lifestyle, as simple as that.

Animatic · 27/04/2024 20:06

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:03

Not if your culture doesn't allow it. Not if your genes are against you. Not if your budget is limited.
Look at your own privilege in your comment

That's another round of idiocy. No such thing as "genes against you" unless u have some genetic thyroid problem. Which I assume u are not referring to. Rather eating sugary and fatty "cultural food" that makes you fat. Just ditch it ffs

Combattingthemoaners · 27/04/2024 20:09

Being white.

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:09

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 19:53

I am not wrong - there are a lot of people in denial about this! But you choose to be fat or thin. It is down to you. In almost all cases

As per my previous post. Read the science @sheoaouhra
It is not always a choice: culturally, financially, genetically, hormonally, societally https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/

CrispieCake · 27/04/2024 20:10

"Invisibility" privilege. Counter-intuitive but I really do think it is a huge advantage to women to be free of men coming up and pestering them. I like to think that I scrubbed up reasonably well when I was younger (perhaps deluded!), but when commuting to work wearing trainers, glasses, a rucksack and an old oversized cardigan, I attracted very little attention, which was exactly how I liked it. One of my office buddies was very pretty tall blonde young women a couple of years younger than me and she admitted one day that she hated commuting because of the unwelcome attention received. She was quite quiet by nature to so it was hard for her to deal with, I think.

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:10

Animatic · 27/04/2024 20:06

That's another round of idiocy. No such thing as "genes against you" unless u have some genetic thyroid problem. Which I assume u are not referring to. Rather eating sugary and fatty "cultural food" that makes you fat. Just ditch it ffs

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/
I wil keep posting the same link

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 20:11

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:09

As per my previous post. Read the science @sheoaouhra
It is not always a choice: culturally, financially, genetically, hormonally, societally https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/

I am well aware of the science, which 100% backs up what I am saying, it is almost always a choice.

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:12

sheoaouhra · 27/04/2024 20:11

I am well aware of the science, which 100% backs up what I am saying, it is almost always a choice.

No, it is not.
At what point is a child going to rebel against its parents' cultural norms then become an obese child, teen and then adult?

craxy · 27/04/2024 20:13

Interesting. Yes, I agree. Although the vast majority of women who are CEOs have blonde hair, the data shows.
This isn't necessarily because they were advantaged because they were blonde. It can be because as women go grey they tend to colour their hair lighter and lighter and end up blonde

They may have been brunettes when they were on the upward trajectory and ended up blonde due to age

Finlesswonder · 27/04/2024 20:14

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:03

Not if your culture doesn't allow it. Not if your genes are against you. Not if your budget is limited.
Look at your own privilege in your comment

That sounds like a culture worth rejecting. Running is free.

Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:17

I am appalled that the focus is on "slim". We need healthy bodies: some have slim healthy bodies; some have athletic healthy bodies; some - through no fault of their own - are neither slim nor athletic (a genetic apple shape perhaps?)
But the fact so may people are defining privilege in terms of looks rather than say:

  • intelligence
  • stamina
  • creativity
  • colour - I mean that's bloody obvious
means that gender stereotypes about what it is to be female are rife
Pebbles16 · 27/04/2024 20:19

Finlesswonder · 27/04/2024 20:14

That sounds like a culture worth rejecting. Running is free.

@Finlesswonder And sometimes the white liberal privilege just can't help itself can it?

Soontobe60 · 27/04/2024 20:21

pepperandapples · 27/04/2024 11:34

You don't agree that being slim affords you privilege relative to people who are overweight? Surely you can understand how this benefits you.

So the thinner someone is, the more privileged they are? Is that how it works?

pepperandapples · 27/04/2024 20:22

Soontobe60 · 27/04/2024 20:21

So the thinner someone is, the more privileged they are? Is that how it works?

More or less, yes

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pepperandapples · 27/04/2024 20:23

Calliecarpa · 27/04/2024 16:57

Seeing as you saw fit to correct a PP's spelling of 'dye', you do know that you spelt it wrong yourself in this post, right? 'It is died', LOL. Mabe correct your own spelling before you start correcting other people's?

Also loving the TikTok nonsense of 'blonde privilege' being claimed as an 'objective fact'. Not just a boring old fact, but an objective fact. Hilarious.

*Maybe, not Mabe

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PostItInABook · 27/04/2024 20:32

All this privilege crap is increasingly being used simply to shut other people daring to express a differing opinion down. As usual it began as something important to think about and has been hijacked and made into something totally ridiculous and useless by total idiots.

ThePoshUns · 27/04/2024 20:34

Absolutely agree @PostItInABook