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to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

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pepperandapples · 27/04/2024 11:30

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

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BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 17:12

It's not a privilege to be slim. It's making choices everyday to eat healthily. It's within people's control.

Not really. Different people have different metabolic rates and it’s much harder for an endomorph to be slim than an ectomorph or a mesomorph.

Rosestulips · 27/04/2024 17:15

Women who are born and marry into wealth

SmudgeButt · 27/04/2024 17:16

Oh and the privilege of having the right accent. So not too strong an accent if you are from certain parts of the UK. No accent that shows you are from some hated country (which may or may not include the US).

Meanwhile for those that think being slim is just something that can be had by a bit of dieting and going to the gym, think again.

LuckyPeonies · 27/04/2024 17:16

Pretty (and this extends to handsome men) privilege. Loads of studies show very attractive people are treated better in every aspect.

They earn more money, are promoted faster, find employment much easier.

They have all sorts of positive characteristics ascribed to them, just due to being very attractive.

There was even a study which proved very attractive criminals received shorter prison sentences, or no incarceration at all, compared to less attractive people who committed the same crimes.

mraladdinsir · 27/04/2024 17:16

I'm blonde (dyed), reasonably slim (8-10) and tiny (5 feet!) and definitely notice the difference since I lost weight (prev 12-14).

White privilege is real. My son is white and it's awful that I don't have to worry about police random searches, etc while other mothers do because they have a child of colour.

HonoraBridge · 27/04/2024 17:17

I hate this divisive discourse -race, sex, gender etc. Stop it!

KTheGrey · 27/04/2024 17:21

I had a [white] mate at school who the police only gave up stopping at night when it had got to the point that they recognised him and knew where he lived etc.

CarInsurance · 27/04/2024 17:21

I don't think height is a privilege - as a tall women I know it has been a problem for a lot of my exes at one point or another and puts a lot of men off me and me off a lot of men. No man wants his shoe size to be smaller, believe me!

I think, white, pretty, healthy (not always skinny slim, sometimes quite muscular/toned look a lot healthier) and I am going to do a wild card and say women I know who have been raised with brothers (not thug ones, but decent men) who tend to have more confidence and know what to look for in a man. Maybe good male role models is a better phrase.

KTheGrey · 27/04/2024 17:23

SmudgeButt · 27/04/2024 17:16

Oh and the privilege of having the right accent. So not too strong an accent if you are from certain parts of the UK. No accent that shows you are from some hated country (which may or may not include the US).

Meanwhile for those that think being slim is just something that can be had by a bit of dieting and going to the gym, think again.

A bit of dieting and going to the gym? No. Months and months of utter misery dieting and going to the gym? Yes.

Hateam · 27/04/2024 17:25

Middle class privilege.

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 17:26

KTheGrey · 27/04/2024 17:23

A bit of dieting and going to the gym? No. Months and months of utter misery dieting and going to the gym? Yes.

And then putting it straight back on again the moment you take your eye off the ball.

Scrunshine · 27/04/2024 17:32

marmiteoneverything · 27/04/2024 14:14

Surely you must understand that attending university isn’t an option for some/many young people, even if it is ‘free’.

And on top of that you living in the UK and therefore receiving an education IS a privilege. Try telling the people killing themselves to get into the country otherwise.

Scrunshine · 27/04/2024 17:34

KTheGrey · 27/04/2024 17:21

I had a [white] mate at school who the police only gave up stopping at night when it had got to the point that they recognised him and knew where he lived etc.

What’s the point of this anecdote? That being white isn’t a privilege? I can assure you it is.

focusonwhatmatters · 27/04/2024 17:37

40andlovelife · 27/04/2024 16:58

@focusonwhatmatters I do see it. I see that if my boys are taught this drivel they will most likely take on a victim status. They're not victims. They are capable of achieving.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say. No one has ever said that due to lack of privilege, that an individual cannot succeed. Or for that matter, someone with all the privileges there are, will succeed (forget about the definition of succeed for the purpose of this discussion).

But if we cannot accept and acknowledge the privilege we have, we risk of being part of the problem (which of course, is not necessarily an issue for the individual). Whilst I'm a middle-aged woman, POC, I also have a lot of privileges. It's really not more complicated than that.

BluntPoet · 27/04/2024 17:41

Boomer55 · 27/04/2024 16:54

Quite. Some privileges can be gained.🙄

You think people who work hard on themselves don’t deserve the results?

Telling.

OneTC · 27/04/2024 17:42

Scrunshine · 27/04/2024 17:34

What’s the point of this anecdote? That being white isn’t a privilege? I can assure you it is.

There have been at least 2 posters who've said they'll never need to worry about their kids interaction with the police.

Which is a ridiculous notion.

ConflictedCheetah · 27/04/2024 17:49

there were 27.2 stop and searches for every 1,000 black people, compared with 5.6 for every 1,000 white people

www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/stop-and-search/latest/

julili · 27/04/2024 17:49

This thread reads more like “Waaaaaahhhhh!!!” every time I open it. 😂

SmudgeButt · 27/04/2024 17:50

KTheGrey · 27/04/2024 17:23

A bit of dieting and going to the gym? No. Months and months of utter misery dieting and going to the gym? Yes.

utter bollocks.

some people cannot and will not ever be slim. no matter how much misery and going to the gym.

CrystalJane2 · 27/04/2024 17:56

Letsgotitans · 27/04/2024 17:10

My white husband experiences racism regularly whilst at work from POC

Oh give it a rest. God grant me the confidence of a middle aged white man.

Hakeje · 27/04/2024 17:58

The greatest privilege is to be born into a family where both parents love and support you. So it's an invisible privilege.

CrystalJane2 · 27/04/2024 18:00

And as it goes, I'm quite slim but some people can't afford childcare, were brought up around poor food choices, are disabled (both visable and invisible) or are desp working to shed weight. So think about that.

Letsgotitans · 27/04/2024 18:06

CrystalJane2 · 27/04/2024 17:56

Oh give it a rest. God grant me the confidence of a middle aged white man.

Give what a rest? Pointing out that racism happens 🤔

Letsgotitans · 27/04/2024 18:08

Hakeje · 27/04/2024 17:58

The greatest privilege is to be born into a family where both parents love and support you. So it's an invisible privilege.

Yes totally agree! The only things I feel privileged about are the country and family I was born into, that is pure luck.

Gingernaut · 27/04/2024 18:11

Good genetics - health, height, intelligence all stem from 'good' stock

Good parenting - a secure, nurturing parenting style can enhance nature's benefits and produce a secure, confident child

The 'right' ethnic background, with a socially acceptable name - my name, for example, is stereotypically Irish and I've encountered racism and some truly ignorant fuckers in my 50-odd years in England

Wealth - a solid financial backing means a girl can try different sports, get extra tuition, if not a private education, a well filled savings account before she's even an adult and a solid financial education. Should there be any health issues, parents are more able to support their child and manage her condition

Social connections - with a well informed, well educated, socially connected family, a girl can get a head start in life

All this means a girl can have options to education and careers that many of us wouldn't/couldn't/haven't have had

Someone like The Honourable Kirstie Mary Allsopp, eldest daughter of the 6th Baron Hindlip (who was high up in Christie's the international auction house), would never have been heard of if she came from a middle class or working class background

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