Baby Reindeer creator is provoking his stalker

[jengachampion]

SPOILERS AHEAD
I’ll preface this by saying I had a male stalker for 7 years. I moved, changed jobs, and deleted all social media in that time. I’m also a survivor of SA, as well as assault after being spiked, similar to RG in the show.

It completely baffles me that he would completely replicate his stalker down to physical likeness, occupation, accent, exact correspondences and references like hanging curtains.

He is clearly not too worried about people finding the real person, as well as her potentially contacting him again.

If it were me telling my story, I would change all identifying details of both of us, because I would NEVER want to go through it again. RG telling his story this way is hugely weird to me and really speaks to the theme of mutual obsession he hints at in the show.

why shouldn't he.

do stalking victims never get to go public about their abusers, the whole point of stalking is the have spectre of them always watching wether around or not.

he can take back his power as he sees fit. if she contacts him she will go to jail, so it up to her.

Speculating about a random profile on the internet is silly, because anyone can fake anything. and people are desperate to be the first and to be ones to 'expose' and share random fake shit on the internet

Richard’s comment about not blaming certain people was very smartly worded. He did not explicitly say it wasn’t SF….!

Why though?
He has used the rapist as an excuse for him giving her a cup of tea (which he repeats as if that was "all he did" rather than him texting her, turning up at her house and encouraging her with free drinks on a daily basis despite knowing her background). Why did he decide to use the woman not the man who did far more to harm him and probably has and will do it again because he has never ever been reported?

It's his choice to heal and thrive as he chooses.

Saying you'd make a different choice doesn't take away his right of choice.

She's a convicted criminal and no more mentally ill than a male stalker. Doesn't make it ok. Nor should she expect privacy after her consistent and repeated efforts to invade his.

I feel like what happened with the bloke broke down his boundaries and traumatised him to the extent that he was unable to tell the stalker to leave him alone. The other thing about the series is that in real life he was much younger, twenties I believe, so easier to groom/manipulate/intimidate. HIs behaviour makes more sense if you picture him as a young man just arrived in London

I don’t condone what the stalker did, but she is clearly mentally very unwell.

Netflix’s lawyers should have stepped in here.

RG uses the exact content of her tweets in his show…. she went to prison, this will make him a millionaire. He literally describes - and portrays - wanking over her photo.

It’s very very dark. Retaliatory stalking on a massive global stage.

That all said, I think the actress who plays Martha is phenomenal.

Didn’t he say unfairly though? Which when I read it, I presumed he was saying it wasn’t him

The real one didn't go to prison. On the Facebook discussed, the woman says she doesn't even have a criminal conviction. The lines could not be more blurred of what is true vs not true in the show and that's dangerous as another poster very eloquently put it

I don't know... if you send those tweets, to the extent that she did, endlessly, to an artist, you may well end up in a Netflix series. She came into his life and she stayed and she threatened him and did not apparently seek help. It's a tough lesson that the pen is mightier than the sword.

What? I haven’t actually seen it but he does all the above.

So it’s not actually autobiographical?

She didn't go to prison and he described it as '100% emotionally true', make of that what you will. I think using poetic license mixed with it marketed as a true story with such a serious subject matter and easily identifiable writings was very negligent for all involved

I'm sure there's better but top of my Google results https://www.thethings.com/real-martha-scott-baby-reindeer-netflix-ending-prison/

And me please.

He doesn't owe her anonymity. The bluff about her real-life inspiration not bearing a resemblance is a more gracious attempt than I would have given a stalker.

I find it strange that Gadd it being criticised. I think he's done a hugely impressive piece of 'art' in writing and producing this series. It's really affecting and shines a light on what it was like emotionally to be in his position.

His father being abused is not remotely uncommon for a male in his 60s-70s: I'm in my fifties and sexual abuse of boys was utterly normal in catholic schools and parishes in the 70s and 80s. It just wasn't and still isn't talked about. I don't know anyone was WASN'T affected in some way. I didn't attend a school or parish where physical or sexual abuse didn't happen.

In some ways I think the common experience of sexual assault and the outcomes of trauma are a key issue that Gadd is trying to expose. I think he's done an incredible job of it.

And what about his rapist? He's being far more careful there.

This is pretty much how I feel.

Exactly this. Maybe people have been programmed by Hollywood to have everything tied up in a nice little box, life is never that way.

This site is inundated every day with women suffering abuse, in so many different ways being told to stop putting up with it. Yet many do, as I did. It’s human nature and nothing is cut and dried. I kept going back to my abuser, he almost killed me on three different occasions, I still went back. I didn’t know I was being abused when he raped me. How does that make me any different to the protagonist in this film?

Because I’m a female.

I suspect this whole thing is a complete fabrication but it’s interesting that because the male is a ‘victim’, this thread will reach thousands of frothing posts.

I expect he's protecting himself from a defamation suit. Those are life-ruining, not least financially, even if you are right.

No one is "frothing."

Lol. Is that all you have. Bring it on.

What?

Bring what on?

I'm not arguing with you. Disagreeing with your point about frothing posts because the victim is a male is not an argument.

I’d love to know her name?

Google is your friend.

Entirely agree. And by sharing his story he is reclaiming his life and not letting her scare him anymore. Good for him.