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Random racial slur & then insults my dd3

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Shockedandsadnow · 24/04/2024 23:10

So, I've changed my name for this. Sorry also... Its a long one.

Today, my male friend and i were coming back from a diy shop from getting parts for a job he's doing to my home.

Back story 1st actually ...
He's a bit of an annoying wind up Merchant... But to the point it can go to far and bring the atmosphere of a room really low. It's like he doesn't catch on when to stop due to it becoming rude, offensive, an argument etc... Because he's crossed the line... If that makes sense. He then will turn it around as if it was the person's fault for taking offence... He thinks and says what he's thinking with NO FILTER! (he does have A.D.D though)

Me and the friend, have for the past couple of months, taken things beyond the "friends" barrier at times, but it has not progressed beyond those moments. He's nice at times BUT, the more I see him... (1-2 times a month) and have got to know him... I'm just becoming put off him in every way possible.

I'm mixed race... (Caribbean /white) .... He is white.

So, coming back from diy shop.. I'm slowing down as we are approaching traffic lights, but they are about to turn green. We are passing a bus stop where there is a black women waiting for a bus.
He then opens the window a little, turns and looks at her and makes monkey noises as we are slowly passing her!!! He was not loud enough for her to hear.. THANK GOD but then as we passed, he closed his window and starts laughing.

I'm just gobsmacked! I'm mortified! I'm embarrassed! I'm offended!

He looks at me and was like... "it's only a joke, it's not like she heard me".... "Oooo... Have a wound you up... Are you biting? are you?"... And continues laughing!

I was like... "I'M RIGHT HERE... WTF! why did you do that?"
He carried on with the whole "Oooo you offended ooooo"

I just kept repeating "that's so wrong... I'm right here, look at me.... I heard you!!! ... Why would you do that? Why would you say that? You are just wrong"

I'm literally shocked. I'm still shocked.

We get back home and im just constantly repeating it over and over the 2 mins left of the journey. I'm Just shaking my head for the entirety of it to.

He then says, why you offended? I never said it to you. She didn't hear... I did it so she didn't hear... You know this... Do you honestly think I'm the sort of man who would say anything in that way...??

I'm like... "YOU JUST DID !"

He just kept making out that I'm wrong for taking offence, it was a joke, I take things to seriously, It wasn't said to me. I should chill. That he's not that way and I'm wrong to think he is... Etc.

I'm honestly just shocked.

He has a mixed race son of 10yo.
Him and myself are kinda taking things extremely slow, but getting to know one another... And he does this!

Whenever he says something and I take offence, he then twists it that it's my fault for letting it bother me.
Or
If I react a particular way, he makes out that im wrong and tells me how he would of and that maybe I should of done that instead
And
He just constantly makes out its his way and no other way can be entertained cos it's wrong and not "adult"... But with pretty much everything..

He then an hour or so later insulted my youngest dd, age 3..to my face and in front of her (about a particular body part) and was laughing for about 5 mins... Insult after insult.. Tease after tease and laughing. Pointing and laughing.
I took my daughter away from him then and stayed silent. (the job he was doing was outside the house) He left shortly after he finished the job.
I didn't know what to say. I was raging!! I don't like confrontation in anyway but this was just........ 😡😠😡

I've literally just come off the call to him about it as I needed to say something... But I had to calmed down 1st to discuss the matter without my anger taking lead.
(I've always done this... I don't wanna say something in the moment that I can't take back because of hurt, anger etc)

He's literally said that I should of said something then as he didn't know I took offence. It was not something I SHOULD OF taken offence to neither. It was just a joke. I'm just being sensitive. Do I honestly think he would mean anything malicious towards a child?!? That I need to really think about the person he his and not take judgement like the way I do.

Both of these in a space of 4 ish hours!!
Wtaf!!!

AIBU to think this way? Am I being like what he's saying? Am I sensitive? Am I just missing the joke?... What actually IS the joke please??

These are just the 2 situations of a few I could mention.. But these have happened today... So they are very fresh and still raw.

I've never met/known a person that makes me doubt every single thing I say/think. That critics everything and puts his opinion on it. Then finishes it with... "well, that's what I'd do, but you go ahead".... It just makes me 2nd guess everything. It's a horrible feeling.

My gut and head are thinking the same... He's not to be looked at in anything more than... "you've paid him for work to be done, let him finish it then run away"

AIBU to think/feel the way I am right now?

OP posts:
GrazingSheep · 24/04/2024 23:12

Just never speak to him or see him again.

J0S · 24/04/2024 23:14

What @GrazingSheep said. Short and to the point.

wowihaveagardennow · 24/04/2024 23:14

He sounds so irritating and actually stupid. I can't believe there's people out there thinking that these types jokes are appropriate. Hideous!

TheSmallAssassin · 24/04/2024 23:15

I agree with GrazingSheep. Why are you even doubting yourself?

steff13 · 24/04/2024 23:15

I'm not sure I get what the struggle is here. He's a terrible person. There's no reason that you have to associate with him so stop associating with him

Starseeking · 24/04/2024 23:16

Just get rid of him, he adds nothing positive to your life.

Sconeswithnutella · 24/04/2024 23:18

What a horrible human! Run, block and keep him away from your child.

Angelsrose · 24/04/2024 23:18

Run far and fast. Don't look back at this loser.

cheeseandketchupsandwich · 24/04/2024 23:19

What you should've done is stopped the car and thrown him out.

MooseBreath · 24/04/2024 23:19

This guy is not your friend. He is a racist and a bully. Please do not subject yourself or your child to him again. ADD is no excuse for this behaviour. I feel so sorry for his son.

taylorswift1989 · 24/04/2024 23:19

Can you get someone else to do the work on your house? I would never speak to him again after that.

StarlightLime · 24/04/2024 23:20

He's a complete arsehole. I don't get the whole "You're saying this in front of ME?!" thing though, tbh. It would be just as revolting if you were white.

StormingNorman · 24/04/2024 23:20

I cannot believe what I’ve just read. He is not a good person and neither the racism nor making you doubt your sanity are good for you. Protect yourself and your daughter from this cretin and move on.

LiterallyOnFire · 24/04/2024 23:22

steff13 · 24/04/2024 23:15

I'm not sure I get what the struggle is here. He's a terrible person. There's no reason that you have to associate with him so stop associating with him

This.

Definitelynotslim · 24/04/2024 23:23

Get rid

StormingNorman · 24/04/2024 23:25

The incident in the car is particularly shocking. I cannot reconcile this behaviour with having a mixed race daughter. Would he find it funny and nothing to be offended by if someone did this to her? TBH, I cannot believe there are still people among us who think this is OK.

In no way did you overreact OP.

Bearpawk · 24/04/2024 23:25

Racist piece of shit. Why are you even asking ?

OneTC · 24/04/2024 23:25

Fuck him off. He's a scumbag

Notts276 · 24/04/2024 23:28

He's horrific. Awful gaslighting racist piece of shit. Cut contact and don't look back.

beAsensible1 · 24/04/2024 23:29

He’s nasty, a gaslighter and manipulator and frankly racist.

what is the joke that he making doing monkey noises a black person. Ask him if you like, get him to explain what the joke is?

it might be uncomfortable but no way should you be letting a man into your home who is racist and taunts your kid. Let alone let him touch you.

GoodbyeKyle · 24/04/2024 23:31

The man is absolute scum. Get rid of him now. He is a racist. He is a bully. He is controlling.

Are you going to allow him to bully your daughter? How do you think his words will affect her? Put an end to this relationship NOW.

DrJoanAllenby · 24/04/2024 23:31

What strikes me is that you were right to be raging but made sure he finished the job on your house!

Why didn't you stop the car and ask him to get out after he made the monkey noises?

Who was looking after the three year old whimsy you drove to the shop?

Where was that person when he was insulting your child?

Why did you continue to let him be unpleasant to your child?

Opine · 24/04/2024 23:31

A perfect example of a racist with a black friend & even worse, a black child. Not that unusual either.

Have absolutely nothing to do with him.

gkdf · 24/04/2024 23:36

I'd never see or speak to him again. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. His poor son having a father like that.

The racism and then goading you for a reaction, he's unhinged.

BobbyBiscuits · 24/04/2024 23:37

He sounds appalling. And incredibly stupid. From what you've said you've been sleeping with him, so this is the honeymoon period? Please stop speaking to him permanently.

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