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70s bush envy

731 replies

Sparklybutold · 24/04/2024 11:34

Is it just me or does anyone else have bush envy? Yes I mean pubic hair bush. I swear I have alopecia down there. I would love a big soft bush. Apparently you can get a bush wig which I'd seriously consider.

(Dear Aston University - stick that in your pipe)

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SnowFrogJelly · 25/04/2024 00:45

menohnopausal · 24/04/2024 11:44

Taking care of yourself is indeed important.

I take care of myself by drinking a big mug of tea while snuggled up in bed combing my big 70s bush

😂

TerriPie · 25/04/2024 00:50

Anyone else suspect this thread has been infiltrated by men for wanking material as I'm pretty sure none of us ladies remove hair from our "vagina".

SnowFrogJelly · 25/04/2024 00:55

I'm pretty sure this thread isn't great for 'wanking material' Confused

ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey · 25/04/2024 02:12

SnowFrogJelly · 25/04/2024 00:55

I'm pretty sure this thread isn't great for 'wanking material' Confused

some people are so naive.

seeing as there are lots of people skulking on MN with a faeces fetish I find it highly likely there are people tugging away to the descriptions of fannies and their respective baldness or hairiness...

mjf981 · 25/04/2024 04:59

I thought this was going to about the innocence of your '70's childhood in rural Australia....

MoonWoman69 · 25/04/2024 07:17

@ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey

Considering men are more responsive to images rather than words, I doubt this thread will be salacious material!
Thankfully, and I say this with the greatest respect, nobody has been proud enough of their lady gardens to post pictures and the descriptions of ingrowing hairs and such, is hardly five fingered shuffle fodder! 🙄

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 07:34

TerriePie
You make an interesting point about how the word 'vagina' is used very inaccurately as if it refers to the external area rather than specifically the internal canal. It's always annoyed me that people use the word wrongly.
But to my pedantic alarm, because of this thread, I checked what vulva means (I had always thought it referred only to the opening of the vagina) and I now realise it refers to all the outer shebang and I didn't know that 😳. How humiliating.
But my dd said at school in her yr 10 class physiological ignorance of the lady garden's moving parts is very great. A number of girls thought they urinated via the canal mentioned above rather than via the urethra.

RedQuail · 25/04/2024 07:45

Ha-ha this thread is hilarious. Thank you OP I needed a light hearted story to look through this morning. Sorry it may not have been intended this way but interesting.
Personally I like to be hairless from the head down, I like it to be hairless and smooth down there and it's annoying when it grows back. Me and DH prefer no hair. But not everyone's cup of tea obviously I think it's like with most things it's up to the individual.

Nomoreafterthisone · 25/04/2024 07:48

I resent the fact I am grim and considered not to look after myself all because I have a bush! I get my hair done every 6-8 weeks (head hair lol), moisturise daily, wear nice clothes and enjoy putting on a bit of makeup but must be a complete slob because I have pubes!

I love my bush, makes me feel powerful and womanly. Sometimes i imagine im a medieval or viking woman when about to get frisky with DH 😂 Used to shave in my 20s and always felt itchy or conscious of shaving bumps.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 25/04/2024 07:53

smithsinarazz · 24/04/2024 23:01

Honestly, it really didn't occur to me that ordinary women remove their pubic hair until a few months ago when I saw some article or another with a GP saying she barely saw any young women with - I can't remember the phrase she used, so I'll substitute "a normal bush". Just one of those other things that make me really glad I wasn't born 30 years later. I MEAN. I just couldn't be bothered to keep it up (or rather down)
Allegedly the C19th art historian, John Ruskin, failed to consummate his marriage, in part, because he was shocked by his wife's pubic hair. Having spent an awful lot of time around marble nudes and paintings of Dryads with artfully-positioned fronds of waterweed, he hadn't realised lady gardens exist. Eventually she left him for his protege, Millais, and had about 10 children after that. DH is the arty type and loves Millais, and perhaps that's one reason why he's ok with it :D

I used to buy into the Ruskin myth then read more about it (art's a bit of a thing for me) and evidently it IS a myth. The rest is true- that she let him for Millais.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 25/04/2024 07:57

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 07:34

TerriePie
You make an interesting point about how the word 'vagina' is used very inaccurately as if it refers to the external area rather than specifically the internal canal. It's always annoyed me that people use the word wrongly.
But to my pedantic alarm, because of this thread, I checked what vulva means (I had always thought it referred only to the opening of the vagina) and I now realise it refers to all the outer shebang and I didn't know that 😳. How humiliating.
But my dd said at school in her yr 10 class physiological ignorance of the lady garden's moving parts is very great. A number of girls thought they urinated via the canal mentioned above rather than via the urethra.

Blame Naked Attraction on TV- where the host and 'contestants ' refer to seeing a woman's 'vagina' - which is nigh impossible unless they are lying down with their legs wide apart.

The fatty bit with pubic hair is the mons pubis and also known as the Mons Venus!

There's been a thing lately for women and young girls (and on Mumsnet) to use 'vagina' for all of it which is just bonkers and quite shocking - if you need to explain something to a doctor, you're going to be talking about the wrong bits.

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 08:22

Deliciously -
I love the '🏔️ pubis'.
I like the word some relatives use:
Fooflah
A mate of mine who grew up in India called it her "noonie" (but to rhyme with Suni not Goonie.) I always thought noonie was the most affectionate word and least derogatory; it also sounds fine when a young one uses the word. A child saying "foofla" seems a bit like they're talking about a skimpy lingerie item from a Carry On film - one that Barbara Windsor might be wearing when she answers the door to the milkman. Essentially diminishing the power of what Courbet painted and called "The Origin of the World" still seen as a bit shocking. Now there's a proper bush and no mistake. And of course there is the mighty 'c' word which has such force and was appreciated by DH Lawrence and my DH when he really is angry with someone 🤦‍♀️.

Anyotherdude · 25/04/2024 08:24

Just came on to point out that a healthy bush of pubic hair didn’t just appear in the 1970’s, and that the practice of removing it stems from a culture that traditionally fetishises women’s hair as “sinful”. So no, it’s not grim at all…

MsLuxLisbon · 25/04/2024 08:27

Nomoreafterthisone · 25/04/2024 07:48

I resent the fact I am grim and considered not to look after myself all because I have a bush! I get my hair done every 6-8 weeks (head hair lol), moisturise daily, wear nice clothes and enjoy putting on a bit of makeup but must be a complete slob because I have pubes!

I love my bush, makes me feel powerful and womanly. Sometimes i imagine im a medieval or viking woman when about to get frisky with DH 😂 Used to shave in my 20s and always felt itchy or conscious of shaving bumps.

Shaving them in order to pander to a paedophilic gaze is what's grim. For a website that is sensitive to any and every form of womens' subjugation, often to a ridiculous degree, I am astonished at the lack of awareness shown on this thread.

Sparklybutold · 25/04/2024 08:52

RedQuail · 25/04/2024 07:45

Ha-ha this thread is hilarious. Thank you OP I needed a light hearted story to look through this morning. Sorry it may not have been intended this way but interesting.
Personally I like to be hairless from the head down, I like it to be hairless and smooth down there and it's annoying when it grows back. Me and DH prefer no hair. But not everyone's cup of tea obviously I think it's like with most things it's up to the individual.

Nah I absolutely intended it to be lighthearted. One cannot talk about envy of the 70s bush and expect it to remain serious 😁

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AInightingale · 25/04/2024 08:52

I don't think (?) it's paedophilia as such - I hope or that would be a hell of a lot of men with dodgy tastes - it's the reluctance to see women as full and complex humans with functioning body parts who bleed regularly and have body hair and don't just exist as pornographic avatars that exist to fulfill men's fantasies. You never see contraception in porn either, I think it panders to the same mindset.

Sparklybutold · 25/04/2024 08:54

I'm also querying whether people who proudly sport a bush - do you condition it?

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TheLadyofShalotts · 25/04/2024 08:54

Sparklybutold · 25/04/2024 08:54

I'm also querying whether people who proudly sport a bush - do you condition it?

Yes!

US2gether · 25/04/2024 08:56

JamSandle · 24/04/2024 11:36

I think it was such an easier time in terms of the norm not being shaved or waved to within an inch of your life at all times!

Easier but I prefer no hair.

I think women didn't have so many self imposed beauty regimes to follow.

Today if you follow them - no public hair or little, false or painted nails, eyebrows, slug like, huge inflated lips, contours, fake tan, no wrinkles at all, botox done in twenties by trendy circles. Or any variation of this

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 09:02

I think porn now dictates male sexual desire and function in a way which makes it invisible to the cultural view because it's endemic.

It's clearly creating high levels of sexual impotence and long term dysfunction.

I think most porn is profoundly misogynistic and by objectifying the stimulating subject it protects the viewer from true vulnerability - therefore reducing sexual union to masturbating with company. It's so sad.

Windypants21 · 25/04/2024 09:22

I once had an undercarriage waxing...it was excruciatingly painful....never again. And don't get me started on the regrowth phase.

LauderSyme · 25/04/2024 12:16

I think one of the reasons why it was okay in the 1970s to have an uncontrolled bush is because we were still in the throes of second wave feminist battles.

Women were fighting for - and winning - life-changing legal rights, eg. in the workplace, but it was still very much a man's world, in ways that are no longer the case.

There are always tangible backlashes to the successes of feminism. I think this modern extreme prescriptiveness and stigmatisation regarding the state of our pubes is one such backlash.

The patriarchy couldn't stop us getting maternity employment rights and equal pay; it lost some of it's stranglehold of control over us.

So instead it focuses on controlling what is in our knickers and making us devote money, time and brain space to 'boxing in' our boxes.

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 12:35

Lauder
But I think my dd and niece can't be alone in thinking this kind of hair removal is just is not only ridiculous but sexist and not a pressure they give a crap about. They're young.

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 12:37

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/04/2024 12:35

Lauder
But I think my dd and niece can't be alone in thinking this kind of hair removal is just is not only ridiculous but sexist and not a pressure they give a crap about. They're young.

I think it will become an outdated thing that only older women do eventually. I have great faith in Gen Z, they seem very clearsighted.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 25/04/2024 12:53

EveSix · 24/04/2024 18:43

I do think it's disingenuous to suggest that one is impervious to cultural messages conveying society's apparent preference for hairless female bodies. It permeates all of popular culture. The 'test' for this is the visceral shame associated with being categorised as 'hairy': the euphemisms women use to describe their own natural hair-growth -we're fuzzy, hirsute, unkempt, 'like a gorilla', 'woolly mammoths' etc, the need to qualify our natural state say it all.
I've been both, and when I have been bald, the decision has invariably been informed by societal perception of women's pubic hair as less clean or sexual attractive than the absence thereof.

Why not then just, I don't know, shut the fuck up about it? If all women would just accept that we're all shapes, sizes, hairyness/baldness without needing to 'find their tribe' all the time and picking sides.

I get that the 'grim' comment was offensive, it was, it was also lacking any thought. I'm totally in agreement with that but most of the posts from women who remove their hair are not talking about other women's bodies, just their own. The women who choose to leave their pubic hair are generally being prescriptive and judgemental about any woman who doesn't do the same.

Imagine if women just left other women to their own choices without needing to denigrate and censure? What hair women do or don't have on their bodies really shouldn't even need a discussion because it's absolutely nobody else's business. Not even a little bit.