Right wing thugs 'protecting the flag' on St George's Day

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Cruella's boot boys out on the street again protecting our British freedoms in their usual brutish fashion with violent disorder. She must feel very proud.

Violence is not ok of course but the EDL and other neo Nazi groups are violent too. None of it is ok. My point is that BLM was a protest about a huge and genuine problem.

If this lot ever joined the army they would never last. They'd be horrified at the notion that they couldn't doss around drinking beer all day, they'd never learn to shoot straight, and would probably faint if they so much as sustained a minor cut, let alone got shot at.

Then why are they not proud of the British tradition of taking in refugees and the population's very varied background?

As for the so-called woke mob - who are they? As I've pointed out above, the notion that only thugs like this are patriotic couldn't be further from the truth. There's plenty of support for patriotism around, this lot are just too thick to notice it.

White working class men were indeed treated badly. But they are also guilty of oppressing women and children. Are these idiots protesting against the bourgeoise and aristocracy then? Are they protesting against unfettered capitalism?

@Imgoingandnevercomingback the StGeorge flag wavers weren't protesting though, they were celebrating St George's Day. Then the Met turned up in full riot gear and started winding them up.

@Imgoingandnevercomingback I think you need to do a bit more research into slavery. It was most certainly not all carried out by “white men” and of course white people themselves have been enslaved at different points throughout history ; alongside every other race.

It is estimated that there are just under 50 million people living in modern slavery today. But people don’t seem so bothered about that.

Yes modern slavery is an issue. But are you denying that white men took black slaves?

Did it need such robust and baton ready policing? Seems unnecessary from the police, compared to the kid gloves treatment other cultures get on their gatherings.

They might not be the nicest of folk who turned up, but there was nothing to suggest they turned up to kick off.

We had a patron saint before George. St Edmund who was English as far as I can work out.

That wonderful woefully useless King Richard the 1st prayed at a site dedicated to St George before he won killed thousands of people in a battle in a far land. where I personally don't think he should have been. He spent only 6 months in England but everyone thinks he's bloody marvelous. I don't. He then started taking the St George's flag into battle. Edward III made St George our patron saint.

I'm all for bringing Edmund back as our patron saint, makes more sense than George who is patron to many many countries. He wouldn't miss us

Flag is a white dragon on a red background - will make no difference to the Union Flag

I don't think that's true. An event was organised and permitted. I'm not sure if it was protest, demonstration or celebration. An hour before it was due to start there was trouble.

Lozza Fox screamed in a police officer's face. A horse was hit. Tommy Robinson called on those attending to protest. There were a lot of very angry people. There was much unpleasantness.

It definitely wasn't a St. George's Day celebration.

@Imgoingandnevercomingback no, are you denying that black men did?

What's wrong with celebrating St George's Day? Good on em. Let's hope the events get bigger and better each year with more flags.

I think that you are confused. These people celebrate by drinking getting angry and being violent.

The label “Far right” has completely and utterly lost any meaning. Wanting men out of women’s spaces is “Far Right” these days!

And to add do you know why Tommy Robinson was in london yesterday? For the first time in over 6 months as he had been banned from entering ? It was to attend a court case against the Met police which he won. Yes he had support. Yes he had his freedom back to attend his own capital city for the very first time in months. Not everything appears as you think.

Nothing! Look at all these lovely trouble free celebrations in London...

https://londonist.com/london/things-to-do/st-george-s-day-events-in-london

Where To Celebrate St George's Day 2024: Special Events In London
By Laura Reynolds

Last Updated 16 April 2024

St George's Day in Trafalgar Square. Image: Shutterstock

23 April is St George's Day, the day of England's patron saint (not to mention patron saint of Catalonia, Ethiopia and various other regions worldwide). Legend has it that he slayed a dragon, although let's face it, he didn't. Take a look at these St George's Day 2024 events in London.

St George's Day Festival 2024, Trafalgar Square
Celebrate St George's Day in Trafalgar Square. Photo: John Pannell via creative commons

Known in previous years as the Feast of St George, there's a free St George's Day festival on Sunday 21 April, painting the town red (and white). The annual shindig brings live entertainment — both traditional and modern — to Trafalgar Square, including Morris dancing lesson and a chance to write your own sea shanty.

Singer Harleymoon Kemp hosts the main stage, where acts throughout the afternoon include Folk Dance Remixed, The Snottledogs, West End Kids, Twist and Pulse and She's Got Brass. There's also a beer, Pimm's and gin tent for the grown-ups, and face painting and a carousel for the kiddos.

St George's Day in Trafalgar Square, 21 April 2024. FREE to attend, no booking required. Note that it takes place the same day as the London Marathon, so central London is likely to be very busy.

St George's Day Street Party, The Wonder

Food stalls, Morris men, a raffle, face painting, an outside bar and an ice cream van are part of the St George's Day celebrations at The Wonder pub in Enfield. The event raises money for the Nightingale Cancer Support Charity.

St George's Day party at The Wonder (Enfield), 20 April 2024, free entry.

Whitton's St George's Day Parade

Whitton High Street in west London goes big for St George's Day, with a huge free parade and street market to celebrate the occasion. Over 1,000 people take part in the procession, which begins at midday and features marching bands, drummers, classic cars, military vehicles and community groups, all led by St George (probably not the real one), the town crier and the Mayor of Richmond upon Thames.

Elsewhere in the town are food and drink stalls, three entertainment stages, and plenty more hijinks.

Whitton St George's Day Parade, free, 21 April 2024.

St George's Day 2024 at Leadenhall Market

As always, the resplendent Leadenhall Market in the City of London is throwing a shindig to celebrate. Ewell St Mary’s Morris Men give free performances at 11am and 1pm, hosted by the Lamb Tavern.

St George's Day at Leadenhall Market, 23 April.

St George's Day sea shanty party

Take yourself along to Hiver Taproom in the Bermondsey Arches for a lively (some might say raucous) evening of sea shanties. Though it's a regular event, this is a St George's special, with a live sea shanty band covering the classics, along with mass singalongs — all powered by Hiver beer, plus wine and spirits.

St George's Day sea shanties, 26 April 2024. £6 per person.

You think the rest of us aren't fucking raging at the state of the place @itsjustbiology?

Of course we are. The UK is full of angry people atm and this demonstration is a symptom of that. But that's down to our disgusting government ballsing the place up. Its not the fault of brown and black working class Britons and its not the fault of immigrants or asylum seekers who've only been here for 15 minutes.

@itsjustbiology that's the most sensible post I have read today 👍

So there is a history of black people taking white people and buying and selling them as slaves in history? White men have been oppressed in a significant and enduring way? White men have been subject to abuse purely on the base of the colour of their skin? Show me the proof of white mental being oppressed by black men in any significant and enduring way in history and I’ll eat my hat.

I know things have moved on from this, but I can't let it pass. In WWI men were prepared to be jailed for their pacifist beliefs, illegally sworn in, taken to the front and shot for refusing to obey orders. Cowards don't do that, if you are characterising conscientous objectors as cowards.
In WWII, men had to go before tribunals of the military and convince them of their pacifism, and men would stand up to counter the claim. One of my father's friends from the Boys Brigade did that, and he had to go on treating him civilly after the war despite it. He wanted to go in the Friends Ambulance Unit, but they didn't have room, so he volunteered for Bomb Disposal, but was largely clearing bomb damage. As the war progressed, the Engineers were using him up north, while his mother and sisters were in the "front line" being bombed and strafed in Brighton, so he transferred to Artillery, and went to France and Belgium with 5 bullets. Conscripts, by the way, were from all classes, not just working. Look at the war poets from WWI.
But I get quite cross when people just don't believe that others took quite seriously the words of Christ with regard to fighting. My sister's first FiL held forth at the wedding celebration about the awfulness of "conschies" (sp?). He, it transpired, was in the Catering Corps. It wasn't easy to get to be non-combatant, it wasn't a cushy number, and for people who know nothing about it to pontificate in a dismissive manner, well. They should have to clear up the mess in the Hartley's jam factory, and then the boss refuse to let the Pioneer Corps eat in the canteen.
Some didn't want to do anything for the war effort, and were prepared to go to jail for it. People like the pp above seem to think they were swanning around in nightclubs or something. Ignorant.
Non-peaceful rant over.

There was no need to have riot police and on horseback there in the first place.

The police are soft as shit usually. They hear Tommy Robinson's name and find their riot gear in the loft.

If your country suddenly became unsafe and your life was in danger wouldn’t you choose the country where you already speak the language and/or have family and friends there? I would. That’s the reason most sanctuary seeking people chose the UK.

How is the state of the UK their fault? We were a fucking mess before they came, however they arrived.