Or does this Labour Party meme display all we need to regarding about how they feel about women?

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Those silly little women. Apart from the ones with penises. They’re just like us men.

Oh yes. Those concerned about Labour are Tory propagandists. 🙄 More lazy thinking being trotted out.

And how long before that thread will be over taken by the GC blaming every thing on the trans issue, Have you ever thought why people don't start those threads? Because it's a waste of time.

Meh. Can't argue with the fact that there's a worryingly high number of people who cannot work for mh reasons.

Not at all. It's entirely possible to have concerns about Labour without being a Tory propagandist. Frankly, I have some concerns about Labour myself.

But there is a small but very, very dedicated group of posters on MN who seem intent on promoting the idea that, if you are a feminist, you need to vote Tory. This is such an absurd and illogical position, based on the Tories' record in government, that I can only assume that these people are being paid to push that agenda by Tory HQ. I don't accept that any of them are stupid enough to actually believe it.

I'm a member too and I agree with you.

Agreed but I think this meme reflects badly on Labour and I'm glad it's been deleted. It shouldn't have been posted in the first place.

It’s funny - its a meme template that’s used a lot, and it’s a joke on that I think.

I agree. They all go the same way. I expect this thread will be no exception.

I know, those stupid women trying to hold labour to account for embedded misogyny. The thing is we expect labour to be better than this and to protect and vulnerable people.

There's more to that (as usual) but I saw this earlier and it was in response to something.
As usual, half a story!
Will have to try and find

Just seen this comment before posting mine.
Yes it's a joke meme and I've seen it loads the past few weeks and this is just a play on it.

So you'll vote for one that fucks women instead?

The question we are asking is what is labour going to do about its misogyny problem. How is going to get our votes back?

Metaphorically, physically or both?! 😁

Christ, Labour over Tories any day. I've always felt more comfortable under them.

I already posted this on a different thread but I like it so I'm posting it again.

Exactly.
Even if it's meant to be a hilarious "joke", the fact is it's a man having serious intelligent thoughts and a woman being shallow.
After a lifetime of sexism and misogyny my tolerance for such jokes has worn thin.

Do you really mean MN, or do you just mean the specifically feminist sections of MN?

MN is a site about women by women for women. That is what makes it so great. On almost any other forum, things that impact only or mostly women are ignorede or shunted into a Feminism thread, or even worse, a Women's Chat thread.

But on MN, where women's concerns are front and centre, the topics you are flagging aren't specifically in Feminism because they are all over the site, turning up in education threads, in relationship threads, in AIBU threads, in property threads, in legal threads.

This is, if you like, small-f feminism. It's women supporting women by dealing practically with the specific instances of shit that impact women's life. When shit is hitting the fan the underlying Why this happens (women's lesser voices and lesser political, economic and cultural power, the asymetric impact of parenthood etc) is less important than the What needs to be done right now.

And of course the women who comment under one name in FWR may well have another name they use in the rest of the site, because too many nasty men consider it a sport to identity women with whom they disagree online IRL and harass them.

And then there is big-F Feminism, the social and political analysis and activism that links all that small-f shit together and aims to tackle the source it springs from. On MN, the Feminist boards tend to be more big-F feminism not because that's all MN feminists care about but because unlike male-dominated sites, on MN the small-f feminism happens under the specific topic for each problem. And right now, redefining womanhood itself, unwriting the impact of biology and patriachy and replacing it with the idea of "womanny minds" is a pretty huge social change that big F feminism needs to understand and (IMO) challenge. Even if your view is it is a good thing, there's still a load of big-F questions raised that GAFs (gender accepting feminists) need to grapple with to work out how feminism and women's supports can best accomodate male women without disadvantaging the female ones.

It is a stupid meme with an added dose of sexism. It represents the Labour Party perfectly.

I wouldn't vote Tory with a gun to my head. You're mistaking criticism of Labour for endorsement of their opposition.

We should not accept overt misogyny from Labour. How will they ever change if we do?

That’s a really popular meme.

not everything is that deep.

Excellent post.

I - for 1 - won't be letting an ill judged use of a meme transform my whole vote.

I wont be allowing it to cloud every single thing the Tory's have done the past 14 years to ruin the lives of - well everyone - except their rich mates.

Tbf I can predict your posts on those threads

On the thread title glad to see majority yanbu

Exactly this. Criticising Labour does not imply endorsement of the Tories.

Labour should do better. We need to keep demanding they do, rather than accept unacceptable treatment, just because they’re better than the alternative. Otherwise, there is no incentive to change and they never will. How is that a good outcome?