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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 12:30

OP. Why are you focusing on the posts criticising your decision? Is that something that you routinely do, kowtow to the nay-sayers?

Everybody (almost) has agreed with your decision, validated you - and your focus is on the 1%. Odd.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 12:32

Ignore my last post, you've posted just beforehand.

shenandoahvalley · 19/04/2024 12:33

The thing is, he won’t be able to organise himself out of the hole he and his children have got themselves into. He knows you have a soft spot for his children. He’s going to lean on YOU to get him out of this hole. He has parents, the children have two parents, he’s a grown man himself, perhaps he has siblings and friends …… but I guarantee that YOU’RE the one he’s going to put pressure on. Think about why that may be. There probably was genuine fondness, but it very clearly wasn’t enough for anyone to stop the children treating you (the very person facilitating their high-spends life) the way they did.

Responsibility for the children lies legally with the parents. Morally, you may feel some fondness that you’d want to make good for them, but if you were my sibling I’d be telling you the best thing you could do for them is to teach them that their bratty behaviour has consequences. They will feel the pinch, father and DC. Nobody wants such a thing, it’s just natural consequences. The kids’ mother or grandparents can bail them out, they can put costs on a credit card, cut back on their own luxuries - none of it needs to involve you.

NamingConundrum · 19/04/2024 12:33

So you had zero involvement in any decisions yet expected to foot the bill all while being treated like crap by the people who were benefitting?

I think thats called consequences. And I do think the kids need to learn that. OP was defacto paying their school fees/trip/hobby costs and they were mean to her so she doesn't want to anymore.

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 12:35

Wow. You have no responsibility to pay for anything! Stay firm. It just highlights how you, your life and your needs were viewed. Well, you are free now @3LemonsAndLime so feel secure in stepping away and leaving them to it. This is not on you.

BaronessBomburst · 19/04/2024 12:36

If he and his ex-wife get back together they'll be able to afford the life they want for the children.
But presumably they don't fancy that option.

Lurkingandlearning · 19/04/2024 12:37

If you’d had the slightest doubt about ending the relationship I hope his reaction has erased it.

Ridiculous entitled and irresponsible attitudes from both of them. Shame they parted, they seem well matched.

If they’d raised polite children the situation might not have arisen.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 19/04/2024 12:37

You are not a bank, so end of relationship and no more withdrawals! Actions and behaviours have consequences and his, his family's is that they now have to find another way to finance their lives. No longer your concern, as they obviously weren't concerned about you!

Applesandpears23 · 19/04/2024 12:37

BaronessBomburst · 19/04/2024 12:36

If he and his ex-wife get back together they'll be able to afford the life they want for the children.
But presumably they don't fancy that option.

Oh yes please suggest this.

SundayTulips · 19/04/2024 12:38

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 12:30

’tis the second sight you have.

You nailed both the school trip location and the sport. This might be getting close to being outing.

I think you are completely within your rights to end any relationship for any reason whatsoever. If it gets to the point you want to escape your own home then it’s surely not sustainable.

I think a lot of posters are being quite hardline and black and white about things though, almost relishing in the impact. Children can be a pain. We forgive them when they’re our own but it’s still not easy. They are selfish and still maturing which can make them difficult and no doubt worse to a non parent living with them.

You are of course under no obligation whatsoever to fund anything, and I agree that if your ex and his former wife split with corresponding financial consequences then why on Earth should you be forced to remain in a relationship to keep finances steady.

That said, if you did want to make a goodwill gesture, (depending on cost and your own finances) you could potentially offer to pay for the trip and say golf for x number more lessons.

YourSnugHazelTraybake · 19/04/2024 12:38

I don't think I've ever seen so much agreement on a step parenting question !! 99% of us agreeing you're completely in the right x x

Teentaxidriver · 19/04/2024 12:39

Am I being thick, but in your first post you say that you have lived together for several years and then at 12.26 it become 3 years together and just over 2 with the children included. Which is it?

Teentaxidriver · 19/04/2024 12:39

Becomes

Blueuggboots · 19/04/2024 12:40

None of this is your problem. They're both CF's!

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 19/04/2024 12:40

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:00

At first I thought we could be friends/civil, as the relationship ending wasn’t an issue between us, but more the children’s impact on me and our relationship. He tried to address it, but it didn’t work and of course he and the children come and a package. I thought it over and just couldn’t put myself through it anymore. I probably should have discussed it more with him. He knew I was upset and worn down by it, but I didn’t say ‘I am thinking of ending things’. Perhaps if I had he might have been making better decisions re family and finances.

I would like to cut contact now, but he still has some clothes and personal items here he needs to collect. He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip
me.

And that's a big, fat no. Tell him his belongings are in the garage/box at door/bin, and go out. Do not entertain him and his kids coming

Haffdonga · 19/04/2024 12:41

You are not wrong OP and sound like you're dealing with everything very fairly. Best off to cut ties quickly and not prolong the aftermath.

But I would take what your ex is saying as a bit of a backlash to his hurt rather than a sign that he was always just using you as a cash cow. Just ignore. We all say shitty things when hurt and he's trying to find a way to pull your heartstrings and change your mind with a dose of emotional blackmail. It's easier to make you feel guilty by saying 'you're hurting the children' than 'you're hurting me'.

It sounds as if your break up was a shock to him. He obviously hadn't been listening and reading your signals so he's blindsided and he's using the 'but you're hurting the children' line exactly because he knows you DO care about them and him and were a positive in their lives a lot more than financially.

I'm in touch with a family on the other side of something similar. They've just had to withdraw their dc from a private school that they only started in September because someone has arbitrarily decided not to pay the fees. The parents are furious and hurt, not because anyone should pay their fees for them, but because the 'payer' suddenly changed their mind with no notice or warning and their school choices would have been different if they'd realised it was a possibility. In the end their dc has suffered as a result and better communication could have helped avoid a lot of upset.

Good luck and keep going. It will be a massive relief when it's over.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 12:41

A 'goodwill gesture' would just show weakness and doubt in the decision.

Is there any reason why the children's other family members can't rally round to pay for the trip? As PP suggests, the ex'DP' should move back in with his ex-wife. Instant saving there - and any revelling from me is in that prickly scenario. The two should never have split, they're a match made in heaven.

shenandoahvalley · 19/04/2024 12:42

Now that you’ve said this is about a city break for a tween, and gold memberships and lessons for a tween - no, don’t give in. No tween needs these things, they’re middle class extras.

The parents can find the cost of the trip between them if it’s already been committed to. You know, like all other parents. And golf - I don’t even know where to begin. Cancel the membership, or put it on hold until the parents have sorted their finances. I cannot believe your ex is giving you grief that his tween son has friends at the golf club, and he’s going to be gutted if he can’t go any more. He’s not a middle aged executive!!

It’s probably the entitlement of tweens expecting a trip to Rome and a golf club membership that lead them to such awful behaviour in the first place… It’s fine to give your kids these things (1) if you can comfortably afford them (2) they deserve them, which at that age amounts to decent school attendance and behaviour, an appreciation of the activity and decent behaviour at home.

NewFriendlyLadybird · 19/04/2024 12:43

They should have been a bit nicer to you then.

YADNBU

Hyfiiii · 19/04/2024 12:44

Teentaxidriver · 19/04/2024 12:39

Am I being thick, but in your first post you say that you have lived together for several years and then at 12.26 it become 3 years together and just over 2 with the children included. Which is it?

Yes you are. Op is perfectly clear all the way through

0sm0nthus · 19/04/2024 12:44

Sugar-mama don't got no more sugar for man-baby
man baby-throw toys out of pram!

PussInBin20 · 19/04/2024 12:44

I think that he is probably reacting to his ex-wife who has probably expressed her anger towards him and so he is now angry at you. I am sure he didn’t see you as just an ATM but ex-wife has probably been having a go at him.

You have done nothing wrong. You could look at it this way - that they had all those benefits from you for however long when ordinarily they wouldn’t have, if he hadn’t met you.

Ladyj84 · 19/04/2024 12:45

You have been very generous but you need to now get him out asap

Dareisayiseethesunshine · 19/04/2024 12:46

Even if there was a talk due it certainly would not include dc... This is between you and dp... Well done for putting yourself first op. He just wants to guilt you into paying for the raising of his dc. They have 2 parents for that. Time they stepped up isn't it?

NancyPickford · 19/04/2024 12:46

I think that having your sister there instead of you at the weekend is absolutely the right decision, as is having his personal effects packed and ready. You totally do not need to be present, and I hope you stand firm on this. I have ready many 'CF' threads on here, and this man takes the bloody biscuit! I am enraged on your behalf.

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