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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 19/04/2024 22:17

I think........... put all his stuff in a box and leave it with a neighbour whose door he can knock on instead and go out for the day. Block all further contact. This is not your problem.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 19/04/2024 22:18

If he had had any sense he would have told the children he wouldn’t allow them to disrespect you in your own home and would instead see them at his parents home or outside of the house. This would have nipped it in the bud whilst preserving your relationship.

these men are so weak as they are riddled with guilt and the children and ex wives walk all over them. Just move on with your life OP. I would feel zero guilt. You’ve bank rolled them for years, they should be grateful.

Katbum · 19/04/2024 22:20

If your ex wanted half your earnings at the end of the relationship, he should have married you. You have not obligations, legal or moral, to him, his kids or his ex. If they needed your money that much they should have been nicer - and now the kids will see that you in fact enhanced their life and come to learn a sad lesson. Move on, take your money and nice house, forget them.

Caththegreat · 19/04/2024 22:21

Don't feel bad.sorry stupid comment.if u want to be with kids perhaps foster.

justasking111 · 19/04/2024 22:26

Such a sad story. I'm sorry it ended like this.

Onemoreterm · 19/04/2024 22:26

Lucky escape @3LemonsAndLime

WearyAuldWumman · 19/04/2024 22:30

BMW6 · 19/04/2024 15:33

Don't buy a goodbye gift for the children OP! You are giving them the bedroom furniture!

Nor should you give the ex any settlement. You don't like being thought of as a cash machine, but your proposed actions are belying that.

His children were rude to you. Don't reward rudeness.

He has saved a fortune in the 3 years. That was enough. Don't devalue yourself by giving him money.

I'd be worried that he'd try to use any gifts or payments as evidence of a financial obligation. I don't think he has a leg to stand on legally, but he's a cf who might chance his arm.

Caththegreat · 19/04/2024 22:31

Yes but also do mourn this whilst being tough with him.It is a loss and I'm sorry.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/04/2024 22:31

BruFord · 19/04/2024 21:19

Wow, I’ve read all the OP’s updates and I’m gobsmacked at the cheek of your ex and the children’s Mum. He only lived with you for just over a year, you provided a home for his children when he was with them and he has the gall to say that they (the children’s parents) have financially over-committed themselves. It’s unbelievable!

Please don’t give him a penny, you’ve spent enough on him already and he needs to sort himself out. Why can’t they ask his parents or the maternal grandparents to lend them the money for the upcoming school trip, for example? If they can’t continue to pay for private school, they can ask the school for financial assistance or they’ll have to make other arrangements for their children.

I still can’t believe how short a time you were together, he must’ve started living beyond his means almost immediately!

Edited

He obvs either saw a nurse with a purse (or just someone with an open purse) and started spending in his mind and real life like he’d won the lottery.

Bet he couldn’t believe his luck!

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/04/2024 22:35

WearyAuldWumman · 19/04/2024 22:30

I'd be worried that he'd try to use any gifts or payments as evidence of a financial obligation. I don't think he has a leg to stand on legally, but he's a cf who might chance his arm.

Having worked for a solicitors before I’d say he has next to no leg to stand on.

They’re not her DC, they weren’t married and even if they were they are not her responsibility to provide for as they are not her kids!

I think this man deserves a place in the top 10 of CF/Cocklodgers don’t you.

🥇 there’s a gold medal for him.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/04/2024 22:37

Katbum · 19/04/2024 22:20

If your ex wanted half your earnings at the end of the relationship, he should have married you. You have not obligations, legal or moral, to him, his kids or his ex. If they needed your money that much they should have been nicer - and now the kids will see that you in fact enhanced their life and come to learn a sad lesson. Move on, take your money and nice house, forget them.

Why would he get half her earnings? Unless it’s maybe through pension or house sale split. If it’s a short marriage she’d have to pay him zilch or very little. If I were her lawyer and she asked for advice on marriage (not necessarily a pre nup) I’d have told her not to do it in a million years.

Just shows how people’s true colours are shown.

MichaelFlatulence · 19/04/2024 22:38

OP you sound caring and sensitive. Your ExDP should know that about you. More should have been done. Please don’t shoulder this burden. These DC have 2 parents of clearly good means, their parents didn’t stay together to fund their lifestyle, why would you step in.

Please don’t take what your sister said to heart, every relationship works on many levels. I suspect your Ex did ease into his situation, but that’s not unusual, but neither is it your responsibility. He must have seen what was happening and yet didn’t take enough action. He also failed to take steps to protect his children - that is very much on him.

dandeliondandy · 19/04/2024 22:47

Oh dear! Mummy and daddy are throwing a wobbly because you won't continue to subsidise their offspring. You aren't even the stepmother! I am afraid that this is most definitely a case of 'Not your circus, not your monkeys!'. Two grown adults are responsible for their children not anyone else. Tell them to buzz off. You have ended the relationship. It isn't your problem. If they want more money they have to do what every one else has to which is earn it, borrow it or rely on their parents for a cash gift. Don't feel guilty or allow yourself to be manipulated by these people.

Teledeluxe · 19/04/2024 22:52

You sound like a lovely caring and generous person. As such you’ve been unreasonably taken advantage of. If you were to continue funding this family where would it end? After school ends there might be university education / accommodation etc to be funded. I’m still wrongly funding my child in their late 30s because I’m also too generous.

Xenoi24 · 19/04/2024 22:55

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

Lmfao they are such a pair of brass necked, entitled ridiculous chancers!!!

Tell them to fuck right off.

You shouldn't really have been subsidising him in the first place, higher salary or not.

(And he's such a stupid wanker he couldn't even stay on the pig's back he was on without fucking it up by the sounds of it)

WalkingaroundJardine · 19/04/2024 22:56

I can’t believe this man has so little savings as to be unable to pay for the school trip etc, despite having a well paid job. It sounds like having an ostentatiously upper middle class lifestyle was more important to him. Fancy sending your kids to private schools but not owning a home!

And the kids were only at your home EOW too - it’s not like you became a 50:50 step mother who has helped raise them from the time they were small. It was nice enough of you to set aside rooms for them and furnish them. My children’s father was EOW too but there is no separate room for his DS. Only a spare room that doubles up as an office and if they have social visitors to stay he gets told. he cannot come for the weekend!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/04/2024 22:59

He is bu and the ex wife is being vvvvvu!!

How upsetting for you that all he is annoyed about is his bankroll, not losing you as a partner or lover. Absolutely the right decision to leave him.

Surely they must have known that he had no security in your house and therefore he should have been saving (perhaps paying his ex less) to build a safety nest egg for if the relationship broke down. It's his fault he didn't do this, not yours.

He is allowed to moan as much as he likes, you're allowed to block him so you don't have to listen to it

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/04/2024 23:00

PotatoPudding · 19/04/2024 10:43

If he’s moving in with his parents for a while, his short-term finances won’t be affected, therefore trips should still be able to go ahead.

Neither him nor his ex should expect the two of you to stay together just to fund their children’s activities.

Very true point

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 19/04/2024 23:01

if you're married there will be a financial settlement as part of the divorce but you can't break up with me because my standard of living will fall is not a valid argument.

Xenoi24 · 19/04/2024 23:05

Hopefully he'll learn to coach his tweens to behave a bit better before he gets his next Mummy Warbucks.

Except he probably won't get another one easily or at all...which is why they're trying to milk you for all they can.

The emotional blackmail and manipulation .. fk me.

I'd get anything of theirs out of your house asap and stop responding to their contact.

They are unbelievable.

Xenoi24 · 19/04/2024 23:08

namechangingforthis100 · 19/04/2024 19:29

He made decisions based on your income without your knowledge. That's his own fault. You were never financially responsible for his kids and they shouldn't have ever made decisions regarding them with your income in mind.

In a nutshell.

Lighteningstrikes · 19/04/2024 23:20

You've done the right thing.
The abuse from the DCs wouldn't have stopped and hypothetically if you got back together it would have escalated.

The audacity of your exDP and his exDW is staggering.

You sound lovely, but be very careful not to judge people by your own standards.

shuffleofftobuffalo · 19/04/2024 23:24

I think a lot of separated/divorced men with children will always see a new relationship through the lens of "how much responsibility for the kids can I offload on her?". In your case that's financial rather than school pick ups.

I'm a single parent, I can't imagine a scenario where I put myself in a position financially where my children's education stability relies on someone else. My child is at a fee paying school and I won't share that financial responsibility with her father as it would give him him leverage against me and he's always been funny/controlling about money.

This is not of your making, it's entirely of his. If his ex is angry I bet it will be at him along the lines of "FFS look what the loser has done now" as she realises the position he's put the children in. I imagine she doesn't know more about your finances than Billy big bollocks bragging about how much more he can afford for the kids, and he's never mentioned it's because he doesn't pay any housing costs in terms of rent/mortgage.

1000% not your problem if the kids have to leave activities/schools etc. I'd get rid of them all from your life asap to avoid a trail of crappy follow up. I wouldn't give him a penny as he will just be back for more. I think he was bonkers to make permanent/long term financial decisions based on a relatively short relationship and a living situation that was essentially on trial.

Also - it's completely understandable you don't want to put up with the children's bad behaviour. I also didn't want to put up with my ex's children, he expected that I would put up with all sorts of crap from them as he didn't want to discipline them because they might not like him. Nature programmes us to love our own children no matter what they do, for most people that doesn't apply to all children in terms of putting up with being treated like crap and still providing the cash.

ByUmberCrow · 19/04/2024 23:28

So his EX WIFE wants you to put up with a man she chose not to - to help pay for her own children??

Boo - bloody - hoo!

Sounds like you are well rid, OP - how fucking DARE they plan their lives by counting on your financial contribution!!!

I am gobsmacked.

Greenfluffycardi · 19/04/2024 23:35

If they’re that worried why don’t they live together? Honestly it’s not your problem.

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