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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 19/04/2024 20:15

Seriously if this was a woman who had given up her own home and moved her children in so quickly with another man and then the relationship ended she would be slated for not putting her children's security first. Admittedly in that situation its hardly likely the children are there only eow. He was thoughtless and inconsiderate of both his children and the op. @3LemonsAndLime you have nothing to feel guilty for he is responsible and his children's lack of respect for you is probably a reflection of his lack of respect for you. He may well have loved you but I don't think he respected you

Supersimkin2 · 19/04/2024 20:20

Ex and the DM didn’t care about their DC enough to instil manners.

The entitled little sods have shot themselves in the foot.

Mnetcurious · 19/04/2024 20:21

You are not unreasonable in the slightest! How ridiculous of them to make important decisions based on you continuing to subsidise him in the future (and without you even knowing)! What would have happened if you lost your job or were unable to work?
Not your kids, not your decision about how much to spend, not your responsibility or your problem! More fool them.

thegirlwithemousyhair · 19/04/2024 20:25

How dare you deprive them of the life to which they had become accustomed ! I mean its really very thoughtless of you! 😆

I know I shouldnt joke but the entitlement is staggering.

how long have you been with him?

Sallyh87 · 19/04/2024 20:25

You have nothing to feel guilty about @3LemonsAndLime, it was time to end the relationship and move on after being very generous for a long time. If he can afford private school and expensive hobbies (even while you were subsidising him), he is hardly on the breadline. He needs to cut his cloth accordingly.

His behaviour has been awful in how he spoke to you today and his attempt to blackmail you emotionally by bringing the kids over.

Im sure though, they did love you and it wasn’t just about money. The money was just a convenience they got used to.

Hope you sleep well.

Castleview6 · 19/04/2024 20:28

Goodness - you sound a lovely person who had been kind and generous. But yiu can’t carry in being treated like this and you’re not responsible for the financial decisions your ExDP and his ex has made.

They now need to make choices and prioritise what they can/ want to do financially. He could stay with his parents long term ( and presumably not pay rent so school fees, sports could be covered). He could even move into his ex wife’s home if this allows them to keep children in their school etc. he could look for a higher paid job.

He has many options but non involve you being responsible for his current position.

your sister and Bil sound amazing. Let them help you and stay away from him!

Ofcourseshecan · 19/04/2024 20:28

Dontbeme · 19/04/2024 15:54

@3LemonsAndLime If you are inclined to give money away you could make a donation to a domestic violence charity and help another person that doesn't have your resources to leave and live a safer life. Please don't spend another penny on this guy or his DC, you do not need to help him with a deposit for a rental property or his DC with school trips or clubs. Your kindness and good nature are being preyed upon, no matter how much you give it will never be enough, you help him with the DC club costs this month, so why not next month, the month after that they need new kit, after that it's a club trip, it will be never ending. These two adults made choices for their DC based on your income and hard work and they did that without speaking to you, they just assumed they could reach into your pocket and spend your money.

I agree.

It’s maybe not surprising how cheerfully your ex’s ex climbed on board when XDP revealed how well-paid and generous you were. But I’m still amazed they have the cheek to blame you and demand more payouts.

I like @Dontbeme’s alternative. Be generous to people who will appreciate your help! The kids are learning not to kick the goose that lays the golden eggs, a useful lesson for life.

And OP, I can hear how this whole thing is hurting you. You loved these people and welcomed them, thinking they were welcoming you too (not just your money).

You sound like a lovely, open-hearted person who deserves to be loved for yourself. I hope this happens for you soon xx

Timeforachocolate · 19/04/2024 20:29

If your ex lives with his parents for fre, as he did for you - then he has the same disposable income.
there is no issue, then.

or are his parents unreasonable for not wanting to fund their son and grandchildren?!!

Tontostitis · 19/04/2024 20:29

If, and its a big if, he's telling the truth about him and his making decisions based on your finances then he's stupid. However I think it's more likely to be a manipulation tactic.

Awful that he's not apologising and trying to come up with constructive solutions to at least try to save your relationships. You should hold your head up high you did your very best and him and his children have behaved very badly.

crockofshite · 19/04/2024 20:31

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 15:18

Yes, exDP said ex wife was very angry and thought I had more integrity than this. At the time, I didn’t think this was true, as initially on the phone call he was acting like he thought the breakup was just me wanting space, and now after a few days at his parents, we would talk again, he would collect the children as usual for the weekend and he would come home. And if he thought that, then why would he have told his ex wife about the break up and immediately moved to the financial Implications for them both? And if he did tell her about the break up, then surely they discussed the issue of where he would physically host the children this weekend as it couldn’t be here?

I don’t know what this means but I am trying to not think too much about it. As people say, it isn’t my issue to solve anymore, and if I start proving or offering suggestions I think it might look like I have some responsibility to find a solution, when I don’t believe I have.

I haven’t ruled out making some payment to him to help get him in a rental property and some
furniture - I know people will say I am mad for considering it! But I do think I am a fair and decent person, and at the moment I am thinking this would be the decent thing to do. I know exDP’s expectations of ‘decent’ seem to vaguely allude to significantly financially higher contributions, but I don’t agree with that. I’m just going to wait and see what happens tomorrow before I make any decisions. I’m a bit too
emotional now and calm thinking is needed, I think.

To those saying it - yes, my sister is brilliant. She is a calm, quiet, steady rock, and I am very grateful that her and BIL are able to drop everything and come tomorrow. They got together at uni and I have known BIL for along time and think of him as a brother, so I am glad they will be here.

I don’t think there is anything else to say now, but I am grateful for the support and different perspectives from everyone. It’s helped me see exDPs thinking (both good and bad) and made me feel better that I haven’t been a vindictive, awful person. I’ll update tomorrow when after this is hopefully over.

Your ex is manipulating you, making you feel guilty and responsible for his lack of control over his life, badly behaved children and lifestyle choices.

Please don't fall for it.

Not your circus, not your monkeys.

Arconialiving · 19/04/2024 20:37

Verv · 19/04/2024 15:54

No more money.
No "meeting to talk" aka wheeling his kids round to make apologetic noises in order to push you towards relenting.

Sack him and his ex off and get on with your life.

This!

DarkDarkNight · 19/04/2024 20:43

Obviously you’ve made the right decision. He has shown you exactly how he views you - an open wallet. He has not asked you to reconsider because he loves you, but because of the financial impact on his lifestyle. How dare he and his ex wife just assume you will be there to pick up the tab!

Wanting to bring the children round is pure emotional blackmail - and that is both ways. To cause you upset, and maybe also to manipulate his own children in to behaving so they can continue to have the school trips and extracurriculars.

I wonder if the woman from the 2 year relationship funded his lifestyle previously and also tired of it. He will be looking for the next meal ticket in no time.

MissHarrietBede · 19/04/2024 20:44

GoingDownLikeBHS · 19/04/2024 17:05

The more I read the more I think the OP isn't handling this very well at all, I hope her sister has more sense - OP planning ways to give this family more money?!

Very worrying, but yes her sister sounds sensible.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 19/04/2024 20:48

YANBU

his meal ticket is over

kkloo · 19/04/2024 20:50

Timeforachocolate · 19/04/2024 20:29

If your ex lives with his parents for fre, as he did for you - then he has the same disposable income.
there is no issue, then.

or are his parents unreasonable for not wanting to fund their son and grandchildren?!!

Exactly, if he only has the kids EOW he can make it work.

mcmen05 · 19/04/2024 20:51

@3LemonsAndLime hugs to you.
Do not let him make any promises to wiggle his way back into your home.
Could he be vacant with the kids mum and they both using you to fund their lifestyle.
Sorry to be harsh.
Do not fall for his tricks of getting kids to apologise as it won't change long term
Do not fund his new life.
Step away as hard as it is.

Tillievanilly · 19/04/2024 20:51

It’s not your problem it’s his. You put yourself first and that’s ok. Tough if it’s made their lives harder temporarily. They will get over it. This is why I will never live with anyone while my children are school aged so many problems. He should have nipped their behaviour in the bud but he didn’t.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/04/2024 20:59

Giving him a lump sun would not be appreciated, it will not be enough and allows him to think that you owe him and his children. You do not. He wouldn't think you were a kind and decent person, he would think you were a mug and if he spots a chink in your armour it's game over

This - especially as he could perfectly well have squirrelled away what he was saving by being with you and chose not to

Mainly, though, I'm bewildered; obviously breakups are sad, but losing the "support" is all part of them, and in this case they're not even your family

And I especially agree that "meeting with the children for a talk" would be toxic. He may well bring them along anyway, but fortunately you don't have to engage or even be there - which would probably be the sensible choice

Cherrysoup · 19/04/2024 21:00

Have a very hard think about potentially offering him set up money for a new place and paying for anything else. I feel he may become nasty because he’s shocked and didn’t think the relationship was ending. He’s naturally enough going to be protective over his dc, so be careful about offering him anything. He has, rather foolishly, imo, decided to go certain ways with the dc’s trips/sports etc. This is not your responsibility by any stretch of the imagination. What’s to stop him landing bills on you if you offer anything now? Be extremely cautious.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/04/2024 21:05

Tough titty. His kids his responsibility and his ex DP’s. He sounds like a cocklodger and a complete arse of a CF of a person.

You’ve been far too generous and kind supporting kids who weren’t even yours. He and his ex are just angry their meal ticket has gone and they’ll have to put their hands in their own pockets to fund their own DC.

Cocothecoconut · 19/04/2024 21:08

Do not give him any more money
nada zilch nowt
you owe him Nothing
stay strong Op xx

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/04/2024 21:13

I haven’t ruled out making some payment to him to help get him in a rental property and some
furniture - I know people will say I am mad for considering it! But I do think I am a fair and decent person, and at the moment I am thinking this would be the decent thing to do. I know exDP’s expectations of ‘decent’ seem to vaguely allude to significantly financially higher contributions, but I don’t agree with that.

Please for the love of god don’t do this OP! You don’t have to feel guilty and you don’t owe him anything. Like you say he has already benefited financially from your arrangement and could have been quietly saving. If he made plans for his children based on your financial contributions then he should have discussed this with you. Hope tomorrow goes well.

Penguinfeet24 · 19/04/2024 21:13

Wow. I think you have dodged a bullet here! I’m sorry but the kids are not your responsibility and if their parents ran their lives on the basis that you fund him they’re utterly batshit crazy. Honestly OP, you have done nothing wrong here,if his children can’t go to that school because their parents can’t afford it, that’s tough. They can’t go on a trip? It’s a shame but that’s their parents fault, not yours. It’s not your responsibility, it’s theirs! Do they think that they can let their kids be rude to you and you will stay pay for them to go away?! They must be utterly insane. I’ve never heard anything so entitled. Might do the kids good to realise we don’t shit on people on the way up because we might have to pass them again on the way down.

Angelsrose · 19/04/2024 21:14

Op you're a wonderful person. It shines through in everything you say and your kind thoughts. Don't give your ex-DP anymore money, he has had enough and it's time to move on and for him to support himself and his DCs without your help.

ABirdsEyeView · 19/04/2024 21:14

I've been thinking a lot about this thread and honestly I'd be surprised if he was as flat broke as he appears to be making out.
But even if he is, it's on him. When my DS gave up his rented flat during covid and moved back home, he contributed to his food bill, but otherwise pretty much lived like your ex in terms of not paying rent. Within 18 months he had enough money saved to pay the deposit and bought his own flat,
There was never anything stopping your ex from putting aside a contingency fund and I'd honestly be really surprised if he didn't have one, regardless of what he's telling you.

I just can't see any responsible parent not having back up, when they live with a woman they aren't married to, in her house and where she's made it clear that she's keeping finances apart. He'd have to be utterly stupid to not realise that was to avoid claim on each other's assets. Grifters are rarely utterly stupid.

This situation isn't really comparable to ones where a couple have raised a family together and one happens to be a lower earner and all the assets are in the higher earners name.

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