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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
TeaGinandFags · 19/04/2024 19:35

In breaking up wIth exDP you've taken the gravy train away.

They are his children, not yours. He and his ex wife made their calculations using your income and now that is no longer available they're feeling peeved.

They'll get over it.

If you had been part of the agreement them they may have a claim. As things are, they've not got a leg to stand on.

Twazique · 19/04/2024 19:36

What you need is a last minute holiday somewhere fun with your Sister. Get away for a bit and have a nice time. When you look back on this it will all be much clearer and a lot less painful.

You have done nothing wrong. You are aloud to break up with someone for any or no reason. Stay strong.

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:40

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 19/04/2024 19:07

YANBU for not funding their lifestyle. You haven't really given any detail on what these children have done /were not doing to cause the toxic home environment. I don't think either of you have covered yourself in glory in this situation. He has shown that he is not mature enough to have a relationship until his children have grown up and flown the nest. You should stay away from anyone who has children, for all the 'good' things you did that you kept a 'tally' of (not an endearing trait) exiting a family without notice is incredibly damaging. It not what you did here that is wrong, its how you did it that reflects badly on you. You sound like a man who was financially propping up and encouraging dependence from a woman and her children rather than a woman who was propping up a man.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion! It's none of our business either what the kids were doing; no need to know anything other than the outcome.

"Tally of..." come again???? No idea what you're on about.

The OP has done nothing wrong. The ex should have dealt with the behaviour because he must have seen what it was doing to her. The split should not have come as a surprise when he didn't do it!

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:42

ZeldaFighter · 19/04/2024 19:05

I'm a bit surprised at these responses! If a woman had said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

Why didn't the rich OP care enough about her partner to at least point out his precarious financial situation?

They're not her kids but surely no stepchild is either and surely we would want them to be treated with respect.

I'm more surprised by yours!!!

crackfoxy · 19/04/2024 19:43

Not your problem anymore. Tell the CFers to FO!

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/04/2024 19:44

Riverlee · 19/04/2024 17:11

I’m wondering also whether dc were in private school prior to op’s relationship or has that come about because of the extra cash.

If not, as op and ex have only been together a short time, then that’s a quick decision.

if they were in private school first, then hiw was ex financing thus considering he was then paying for rent, bills, food etc.

Ditto for expensive sports lessons, clubs etc

This

I asked this earlier

AhNowTed · 19/04/2024 19:44

TL:DR

Ex DP furious I'm no longer funding his and his children's lifestyle, and his ex wife has joined the pile on:

Nottogetapenny · 19/04/2024 19:52

You are doing the right thing. Please don’t doubt yourself, you have done this not as a spare of the moment thing, but a build up over months.

You sound like a lovely, caring, generous and genuine person.

It is your EX P and the mother of his children that, should now step up and financially support their children. It’s been too easy for them, as they now realise how much you have help financially.

I am sorry that your relationship has finished and how you are feeling. You have an amazing sister and brother in law, and that’s lovely, you will get through this and hopefully be so much happier before long. 🌸

kkloo · 19/04/2024 19:53

ZeldaFighter · 19/04/2024 19:05

I'm a bit surprised at these responses! If a woman had said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

Why didn't the rich OP care enough about her partner to at least point out his precarious financial situation?

They're not her kids but surely no stepchild is either and surely we would want them to be treated with respect.

What would he or she be entitled to after only 2 years in the house anyway?

Women get torn apart on here and made out to be stupid when they're financially screwed because they didn't get married after they break up with the actual father of their kids, so I don't think she would be getting a huge amount of sympathy if a woman posted on here with a like for like story that the OP posted.

Moved in with a man, didn't have to pay rent, only bills, so she decided to put her kids into private school and sign them for expensive sports etc and assume that going forward she was going to be able to spend most of her wages on them and that her partner who she'd only lived with for a couple of years was going to subsidise her going forward without ever even discussing it with him. She'd be called presumptuous and foolish.

I absolutely agree that the stepchildren should be treated with respect, but that doesn't mean the OP has to continue to fund them, she didn't make those decisions or make any assurances about anything.

AliceMcK · 19/04/2024 19:53

Op you sound lovely.

I dont think your ex got with you for financial reasons, but it dose appear to have taken over somehow. My ExH was someone who sought women financially better off than him, it was very obvious from early in the relationships he had. I developed a good friendship with his DDs mum and we compared notes 😂

i think your right, the shock of everything ending is causing him to focus on finances.

You sound very strong in your position which is how you should be.

The only thing I’d say is, if the children do want to see you, consider it please. When my ExH & I told his DD we were splitting we took her somewhere neutral and talked to her. We then gave her the option of going with her dad for the day or me, she chose me. That night her Mum phoned us ( we were still living together) as DSD was sobbing she thought she’d never see me again, she also thought it was her fault we broke up as Ex and I had an argument about him not supervising her, she’d done something, which wouldn’t have happened if he’d actually been looking after her properly. It was one of many arguments we’d had but I tried not to argue in front of her so she never saw them, this one though it was the straw that broke the camels back, for him not her. It was very much his parenting, or lack of I had issues with, not my DSD.

I actually stayed in my DSDs life, she’s almost 30 now and we are still in contact.

Maybe in a few weeks, if you’re up to it you can agree to meet the children and just reassure them they did nothing wrong and you care for them very much. Just so you end things on a good note with them. As suggested give them a parting gift to remember you by.

Though if it’s not something you feel like you can do, that’s completely your choice and understandable.

Hont1986 · 19/04/2024 19:58

I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong, but it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 20:02

Hont1986 · 19/04/2024 19:58

I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong, but it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name.

After a short relationship he wouldn't really have walked away with much though would he?

Scarletttulips · 19/04/2024 20:03

I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong, but it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name.

Bit he had choices, he didn’t pay rent - £1000 a month easy - he paid half the bills, again a saving, OP paid for holidays etc etc - he had room to either save or purchase a rental property. What he chose to do was increase his children’s fun stuff, and not save for his future.

BouncebackBetty · 19/04/2024 20:04

Not your problem OP.

How on earth do you think single parents manage?
He needs to get a grip so does his ex wife.

I'd just get rid of the lot of them. They sound like a heavy chain around your neck keeping you back from your needs and goals in life.

Go and live free.

Eggplant44 · 19/04/2024 20:04

Maybe in a few weeks, if you’re up to it you can agree to meet the children and just reassure them they did nothing wrong and you care for them very much. Just so you end things on a good note with them. As suggested give them a parting gift to remember you by.
I would not be reassuring them that they did nothing wrong. Neither would I accuse them of anything. This whole situation should be a lesson to them that actions have consequences, and I would let them work that out for themselves.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 20:05

Scarletttulips · 19/04/2024 20:03

I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong, but it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name.

Bit he had choices, he didn’t pay rent - £1000 a month easy - he paid half the bills, again a saving, OP paid for holidays etc etc - he had room to either save or purchase a rental property. What he chose to do was increase his children’s fun stuff, and not save for his future.

Absolutely. If he had saved then he would have had a lump sum now that he wouldn't have had the opportunity to save if it hadn't been for moving in with the OP, but he didn't.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 19/04/2024 20:06

Op please don’t feel bad and please don’t give him a payment to help him!

Him and his ex-wife are treating you like a cash point ffs…

I can’t see anything in your posts where he has said that he is upset to be losing YOU. It’s all about the financial loss…

CactusBasket · 19/04/2024 20:08

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk

Better now than mid-GCSEs, honestly.

Flopsythebunny · 19/04/2024 20:09

EG94 · 19/04/2024 12:25

Why not? It’s in her house? If he cannot take the belongings she is not a storage unit. The ex and the ex wife cannot just expect the OP to find their kids but they have been. So please don’t tell me this already extremely kind women who has been taken advantage of cannot take back some control. If I was her I would drop it round and if he refused I would get rid of it because my kindness has been mistaken for weakness and I would have nothing left to give.

I agree with you, but legally she cannot just dispose of them. If she did, he could take her to small claims court. There is a process she has to follow

BouncebackBetty · 19/04/2024 20:10

Flopsythebunny · 19/04/2024 20:09

I agree with you, but legally she cannot just dispose of them. If she did, he could take her to small claims court. There is a process she has to follow

Even if they are not married?

Cheesyfootballs01 · 19/04/2024 20:10

Hont1986 · 19/04/2024 19:58

I don't think you necessarily did anything wrong, but it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name.

But he wasn’t paying rent! So he could have been saving money each month - OP also said he had a decent job so it’s clear he’s not living on NLW is he?

I suspect he was happy to have OP bankrolling him and spent his money rather than saving

Greywitch2 · 19/04/2024 20:11

Eggplant44 · 19/04/2024 20:04

Maybe in a few weeks, if you’re up to it you can agree to meet the children and just reassure them they did nothing wrong and you care for them very much. Just so you end things on a good note with them. As suggested give them a parting gift to remember you by.
I would not be reassuring them that they did nothing wrong. Neither would I accuse them of anything. This whole situation should be a lesson to them that actions have consequences, and I would let them work that out for themselves.

Agreed! This was a ridiculous suggestion.

The OP has finally had enough of the relationship because her DP has done nothing about the fact that his children have behaved appallingly towards the OP in her own home. She states It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage.

It is ludicrous to suggest she meets up with the children to reassure them they did nothing wrong. They have been so hurtful and toxic that she doesn't want to continue in the relationship with her partner, precisely because of the poor behaviour of his DC!

Caroparo52 · 19/04/2024 20:12

SapatSea · 19/04/2024 10:35

Urgh! You are totally in the right and have been much more than generous. He should have been saving or working more in order to save so that he could finance his children's lives. Not your circus...

This

EG94 · 19/04/2024 20:13

Flopsythebunny · 19/04/2024 20:09

I agree with you, but legally she cannot just dispose of them. If she did, he could take her to small claims court. There is a process she has to follow

She brought and paid for it all would be an open shut case. Furthermore he has no money to pay for his spoilt children apparently so court is the last thing he can afford

User89174648495 · 19/04/2024 20:14

I’ve not read the whole thread but you sound so lovely and so kind and generous. It’s totally fair enough it wasn’t working for you so you left. I bet you’ve put up with a lot. There’s nothing I can add in terms of advice but I hope one day you will be able to see this for what it is - a complicated end to a tricky situation and it’s not your fault. If that had been me in that situation I wouldn’t have let myself and my children be so reliant on someone else. They are unfairly directing their anger at you when they were irresponsible to book their children into these things they couldn’t afford.

i would absolutely love someone to take my kids and choose a book and go for a hot chocolate, they were lucky to know you. Such a shame they didn’t see that.

i really wish you all the best and well done for working so hard to make your money.

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