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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
viques · 19/04/2024 19:06

He can pay for the trip and the sports activities on a credit card, that’s what they are there for, sudden big expenses. The school fees are something he and his ex wife will have to work out between them. They could approach the school for a start to see if there is any way they could help with a bursary or available charitable funding.

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 19/04/2024 19:07

YANBU for not funding their lifestyle. You haven't really given any detail on what these children have done /were not doing to cause the toxic home environment. I don't think either of you have covered yourself in glory in this situation. He has shown that he is not mature enough to have a relationship until his children have grown up and flown the nest. You should stay away from anyone who has children, for all the 'good' things you did that you kept a 'tally' of (not an endearing trait) exiting a family without notice is incredibly damaging. It not what you did here that is wrong, its how you did it that reflects badly on you. You sound like a man who was financially propping up and encouraging dependence from a woman and her children rather than a woman who was propping up a man.

InterIgnis · 19/04/2024 19:07

ZeldaFighter · 19/04/2024 19:05

I'm a bit surprised at these responses! If a woman had said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

Why didn't the rich OP care enough about her partner to at least point out his precarious financial situation?

They're not her kids but surely no stepchild is either and surely we would want them to be treated with respect.

Why didn’t he care enough about himself and his kids?

if a woman posted in that situation I would advise her to suck it up and not expect anyone that isn’t their parent to pay for her kids.

Obi73 · 19/04/2024 19:08

Talk about entitled! You have no legal or moral obligation to support these children and the fact that your ExP and his ExW think you do, shows you’re better off without the lot of them. I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a ridiculous AIBU and thought no you’re bloody not!

Aprilrosesews · 19/04/2024 19:09

PoisonMaple · 19/04/2024 10:38

Hell no!

If her ex and his ex had treated OP with some respect and valued what's she's done for those children so far, then perhaps she could offer to pay. She's clearly generous. But they've shown what they think of her.

Ultimately, the parents should have ensured they can afford to raise their children on their respective incomes. Anything else is a bonus.

the parents should have ensured they can afford to raise their children on their respective incomes. Anything else is a bonus

THIS THIS THIS he should’ve have been putting the money he was saving on rent/housing into savings. He could’ve been saving a deposit for his own house in that time.

CharlieUniformNovemberTangoYankee · 19/04/2024 19:09

Do not give in to this freeloading cheeky fucker's manipulative emotional blackmail.

All he is doing is showing you that you made the 100% correct decision to end it with him.

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 19/04/2024 19:12

If a woman said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

You disrespect most of us on this site if you truly believe that. And you also make her sound like a sex-worker only with him for his money. Hmm...funny that...as OP's ex was there for her money sadly.

I for one would be telling her to raise her bar, have more self-respect and pay for her own kids things.

ILoveNigelTufnel · 19/04/2024 19:12

Goodness, what a horrible man and ex wife. You sound like you’ve been a brilliant step mum and have put a lot of thought in to making the children feel welcome on your home.

Well done for putting down boundaries and sticking to them. That’s so sad you wanted to leave your home and not go back last weekend.
I hope you are as ok as you can be and looking after yourself this evening. Your sister sounds brilliant.

OhcantthInkofaname · 19/04/2024 19:13

loveroflentils · 19/04/2024 10:34

such a long and detailed post when clearly you knew the answer anyway

Because there will be a number of naysayers on here browbeating her and asking for more info.

slippedonabanana · 19/04/2024 19:17

There's every chance your ex has a very nice nest egg stashed away for himself as he wasn't paying any rent for years. I wouldn't necessarily believe him if he pleads poverty.

tensmum1964 · 19/04/2024 19:19

Obi73 · 19/04/2024 19:08

Talk about entitled! You have no legal or moral obligation to support these children and the fact that your ExP and his ExW think you do, shows you’re better off without the lot of them. I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a ridiculous AIBU and thought no you’re bloody not!

This

OhcantthInkofaname · 19/04/2024 19:20

I'm wondering why they did not control their children from being disrespectful and rude to you. Those children may now have to live with results of their behavior. So sad, too bad.

funinthesun19 · 19/04/2024 19:21

ZeldaFighter · 19/04/2024 19:05

I'm a bit surprised at these responses! If a woman had said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

Why didn't the rich OP care enough about her partner to at least point out his precarious financial situation?

They're not her kids but surely no stepchild is either and surely we would want them to be treated with respect.

If a woman with a rich ex suddenly had an inevitable reduction in her household income and it hit her and her kids hard, I would say it’s time for her to and her children’s father to resume supporting their kids on their own and to suck it up. The same way as I have if it’s a man with a rich ex. Suck it up.

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/04/2024 19:25

Op you sound absolutely awesome. Never doubt yourself. You’ve were only with the man for around 3 years and he chose to gamble with his kids’ lives based on what you could provide him. This was a very silly decision. Much as I feel sorry for the kids, it isn’t for you to bail them out. And had he lost a high paying job for example, he would also be pulling them out of school and expensive clubs. This happens every day.

MissUltraViolet · 19/04/2024 19:25

OP, I don't know you but I am proud of you. Well done for putting yourself first, you sound like a really lovely, confident, smart woman. I would have peed myself laughing at the response you got to the break up from your ex and his ex, so friggin' cheeky it's unreal. In time you will defo look back at this and laugh.

I know you are hurting due to the end of the relationship, but in regards to this specific issue only, this wasn't a really long term relationship when all is said and done. You have only been around in these kids life for some weekends for a year or two - the decisions their parents made in that time are NOT your responsibility. Neither one of them bothered to discuss any of it with you because it's THEIR children and they obviously decided it was none of your business, you were just being used by them to bankroll it all.

You do not owe anyone anything. Please don't give him anything other than what you have already discussed - his belongings, the furniture you purchased for the children and maybe a little gift for them to say no hard feelings etc. He has been living very cheaply in your home and has been subsidised by you for a long time, he is on a decent wage himself, he should have plenty of cash saved up to sort himself out. If he doesn't - sucks for him, not your problem.

Zeroperspective · 19/04/2024 19:27

I hope you are correct in that he hasn't seen your whole relationship in terms of you being his cash cow and he's just reacting/lashing out on the financial impact. No you don't owe his DC. You did however by the sounds of it have a lovely relationship around shared hobbies outside of the toxicity and if/when you feel up to it then it might be worth exploring either a much reduced by continued relationship with the DC in an 'aunt' role or at least arranging a goodbye meeting rather than you and the DC having the last horrible weekend as your last memory of each other. Your sister sounds very level headed and supportive so I would continue to talk to her and ask for her take on things going forward as to whether you give any financial help to your ex to help him move on

Teentaxidriver · 19/04/2024 19:28

Thank you for clarifying OP. I was asking because I tend to think of several as having the Cambridge definition ("an amount that is not exact but is fewer than many") and my sympathy to your exDP (albeit quite modest in the first place) was slightly inflated by the impression that he had benefitted from this situation for perhaps 4 or 5 years, in which case I could understand (but not support) his upset.

JudgeJ · 19/04/2024 19:28

If you were a team with your partner, you would have worked harder on anticipating this and working through it together. But it sounds like his attention is elsewhere, and you aren't involved in decision making- so things have fallen over. This isn't the kids per se- it's lack of teamwork.

The MN mantra is that even fully fledged step-mothers are supposed to keep out of decisions concerning their partner's children, had the OP tried to be involved in decision making she would have been howled down on here!

namechangingforthis100 · 19/04/2024 19:29

He made decisions based on your income without your knowledge. That's his own fault. You were never financially responsible for his kids and they shouldn't have ever made decisions regarding them with your income in mind.

Teentaxidriver · 19/04/2024 19:30

Honestly, he and his ex-wife are fools if they have factored your income into their medium-term or even long-term plans. You are right: he ought to have been saving money, but instead he has been frittering it away.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/04/2024 19:31

You say that you can’t face seeing the children now but you and their dad chose for you to become a major feature of their life. You can’t now just walk out of their life without even seeing them to say bye. It will be very confusing for them and I get you are upset but you also need to be an adult here and put your feelings aside for their sake.

MumOfTwoLittleOnes24 · 19/04/2024 19:31

OP, FWIW I think you sound like a thoroughly decent lady with great integrity, kindness and generosity.
Your exDP has overstepped the mark here and should never have made assumptions about your financial contribution to his children's education/lifestyle etc. You sound like you've been a lovely step mum to those children in the two years they've known you. You've honestly nothing to feel bad about with regards to your behaviour. I hope with a bit of distance you can start to feel better. It must be painful to think that this important personal relationship is ending with a total focus on finances from your exDP. I think you're really well rid of him.

My guess is that ExDP has misled his former wife about his finances and has yet to give her the bad news - that would add to his stress. Not your problem OP, but definitely his.

MariaLuna · 19/04/2024 19:33

he can’t have the children overnight for the weekend now as there isn’t room at his parents, this will now put his ex wife in a difficult position

Well, not your problem is it?

Fuck him off.

Your future self will be cheering for you.

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:34

Farahfawsett · 19/04/2024 17:45

I understand why you need to step away for a bit OP, but I just want to say PLEASE don't give your ex any money.

Believe me, he won't be grateful for it, because whatever you give him, he will then think he was owed something from you and inevitably that will lead to him believing you short changed him in some way (sounds ridiculous but I'm sure others on here will have had similar experiences of this).

An ex of mine profited from me massively by living with me rent free, me paying off some of his debts and letting him use my car for work.

When I found out he was cheating, I kicked him out, but I did say I'd help him move some stuff from my place to near where he worked as he wouldn't be able to get it there otherwise. Once we got there he asked me to give him my car (permanently, as a gift 🙄) and when I said no, he asked me to loan it to him for a few months because "I owe him at least that."

There was no thanks for all I'd done for him, the free lodgings and meals and car insurance etc. No thanks for digging him out of crippling debt whilst giving him a nice home and holidays etc. all while he was "working late" and shagging his OW.

He genuinely felt hard done by that I didn't give him more.

Once they've been on the gravy train for a while the gratefulness decreases and the expectations rise.

That is utterly horrendous, what a selfish evil prick of a bastard!! I hope you are happy now xx

CatherineofAmazon · 19/04/2024 19:34

I think he/they have had more than enough money from you OP.
You sound like a lovely decent person who deserved much much better.
It’s good you have your Sister’s full support.
She must be quite relieved you have come to your senses so to speak.
Hope tomorrow goes okay and then you can start looking after the most important person in your life…you.

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