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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
user1471538283 · 19/04/2024 17:52

None of this is your problem. They are their DC. What did they think would happen? That you would forever subsidise his and their lives?

This has proven that you were a means to an end.

Block them.

ABirdsEyeView · 19/04/2024 17:54

Not rtwholeft yet but these children have 2 parents and at least one set of grandparents - I'm sure they will be housed and given everything they need. It really isn't in you to maintain a lifestyle they've become accustomed to, but that their parents can't maintain without your money!

It was madness for them to commit financially to hobbies and schools that they cannot manage without their dad freeloading off you! This is nothing you should be feeling bad about.

I'm sure this has come as a shock to him and he's not prepared for it but his idea of bringing the kids tomorrow is so so manipulative.

Change your locks - don't trust him not to have a spare key made. Pack up their stuff and and get this done sooner rather than later.

ABirdsEyeView · 19/04/2024 17:54

And the don't 'lend' him any money! He could have been saving and securing his dc future - he chose not to!

Moveoverdarlin · 19/04/2024 18:00

OP you should feel very proud of yourself for doing the right thing. So many posts on MN are from women putting up with shit from men and teenagers for years on end when they really don’t have to. You’ve parted ways and it sounds like your ex has had it easy for years. I think it’s cruel and vindictive to whinge that his children’s education is at stake because of you. You don’t put children in to private education lightly, you plan for the worst case scenario, what if there is redundancies, what if we go down to one wage, could grandparents help etc. This is not on you. Those children have two parents, two sets of grandparents (I assume). Your financial situation should not be taken in to account. Their father has lived rent free for 3 years? Surely he’s put a bit aside and if he hasn’t he has literally planned his kids life based on the fact that he’s free loading. He’s totally planned to bring the kids round to apologise for being assholes and plans to worm his way back in. Stay strong.

Beach11 · 19/04/2024 18:02

Op, you have done nothing wrong. You can spilt up with some for any reason that makes you unhappy. Well done, for actually done something about it.

Don’t be bullied into feeling guilty that they now have financial issues that have nothing to do to you. 💕

Thecatthatgotthesouredmilk · 19/04/2024 18:18

SharedAccountWithMySister · 19/04/2024 10:35

Not your circus, not your monkeys.

@SharedAccountWithMySister 😆 best comment!

LanaL · 19/04/2024 18:23

No need to even think twice on this - they aren’t your children , you have no responsibility towards them and you cannot finance them forever . Your ex and his ex should not have based things around your income and he should have had something in place or just the sense to know if you split them he would have to pay this !

YANBU in the slightest . I would maybe give him a little time to find somewhere if he doesn’t have anywhere to go but I don’t think you have to even do that. He knew that it was your home and was happy for you to pay for it all completely , really he should have said no I don’t want to be in a position where I don’t have a home if we split - therefore insisted he pay towards the mortgage and be on it , but he was happy to live in a home that he paid nothing towards so he’s made his bed !

Maray1967 · 19/04/2024 18:26

Freesia9 · 19/04/2024 17:33

Interesting that he's talking about the ending of your relationship in terms of his financial loss.

Yes - he seems more concerned about that than anything else. That says it all, really.

Littlemissnikib · 19/04/2024 18:27

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

Clearly not being unreasonable, but just to warn you for the future, just because you were paying for the mortgage and house related stuff out of your own money this doesn’t mean that he can’t come after you for money . If you live with someone again you can get a co-habitation agreement which is like a pre-nup for non married people. It becomes null and void upon marriage.

crockofshite · 19/04/2024 18:28

Your ex and his ex-w have chosen a lifestyle for themselves and their children beyond their means.

They didn't discuss their decisions with you or make it clear that you subsidising your ex had any bearing on their own financial decisions.

If I understand your post correctly you've split from your ex partly due to the unpleasant behaviour of his children towards you.

Fuck 'em all 😊.

ScribblingPixie · 19/04/2024 18:30

What an unhappy situation. Reading your posts, I can't see anything you could or should have done differently. It just didn't work out. How fortunate, though, that you have such a lovely sister to talk things through with. All the best to you for the future, OP.

Maray1967 · 19/04/2024 18:31

Littlemissnikib · 19/04/2024 18:27

Clearly not being unreasonable, but just to warn you for the future, just because you were paying for the mortgage and house related stuff out of your own money this doesn’t mean that he can’t come after you for money . If you live with someone again you can get a co-habitation agreement which is like a pre-nup for non married people. It becomes null and void upon marriage.

Why would that be the case? Surely he could only do that if he’d paid towards house renovations and could argue he’d increased the value of the property. He’s only paid a share of bills. They have no children. I’m genuinely interested in how this could be the case.

Aliciainwunderland · 19/04/2024 18:35

Do not give him any money. He does not deserve it. You have been very generous in saying they can have all the furniture. You’ve done enough. It’s time to move on with your life. Good luck, you deserve it! Book a holiday!

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 19/04/2024 18:37

With parents like that, no wonder the kids are cheeky entitled little feckers.

Block the lot of them. He's not even arsed about you, you've ended a long term relationship and his response is "well my kids need your cash for treats." What a prize prick.

They saw you coming OP, I'm really sorry to say. Make sure your head is high, and you're smiling as they watch you leave.

ABirdsEyeView · 19/04/2024 18:37

And if he's in your will, sort that out when you get a minute.
Best wishes OP - this totally sucks.

CatOnTheLap · 19/04/2024 18:38

OP, I am outraged on your behalf. I want to give him a good talking to!

You gave been exceptionally generous, not just financially, but with time, thought and effort. You absolutely DO NOT need to do anything more for people whose attitude and behaviour make you want to leave YOUR OWN house and never come back.

No to meeting with the kids, that’s just blatant emotional blackmail.
No to money to help him to rent a place, no to money to furnish it, no to paying the bills for school trip and school fees.
Do not let him and/or his ExW and/or his kids manipulate you.

Your sister is a wise woman and sounds just as lovely as you do.

worriedaboutthefuturenow · 19/04/2024 18:41

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:45

Thank you for the responses so far, I’m glad to see I’m not unreasonable, I felt quite upset that this could even be leveled at me.

To those wondering - it’s the specifics of ExDP’s comments that have bothered me. He is saying the cost of a school trip is now not able to be paid and the child knows they are going, so this will be a big emotional blow to them. Stopping the sport will also be upsetting as the other child has been doing it for awhile, has friends there and is good at it, and they will be very upset about this. In both cases I agree this is true. I wonder if I am being harsh and upsetting the children who are innocent in this (yes, their behaviour towards me is a big catalyst for the breakup, but I do accept they are tweens and not entirely responsible for their behaviour/attitudes at this age. I just can’t be around it anymore).

The school one also upsets me. I don’t want the children to leave school in critical years for them, as again this is not their fault, but surely no one can think I am responsible for the decision to have to move them?

Seriously ? he has factored your finances into his discussions with his ex on how he supports his children ? you need to tell him to quit with the emotional blackmail, if he set unrealistic expectations for his kids about what he could or could not sustain financially that is his (and her) issue entirely now. This is DexP's and his exe's fault, they had no right to assume any financial assistance from you when discussing their children's financial support. You were not even consulted about this in the first place at so how could this guilt / responsibility be laid at your door ? Its DexP and his ex wife that need to feel guilty for 1.totally taking advantage of you up to this point and 2. setting unrealistic standards to their kids that they cant afford to keep up.

Cut him off and move on OP. He is CF.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 19/04/2024 18:44

@3LemonsAndLime utterly gobsmacked at the audacity of your ExP and his ex wife!!! you have definitely been treated as the communal bank and that is totally unacceptable! i gather that they sent the kids to private school after his relationship with you began? the ex wife can always go out and find a partner to subsidise her childrens' education. do not bend to him or you will be in for a lot more financial assitance for his children. you have already been way too generous and offered the furniture from the bedrooms in your house! That is something I would not do!

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 19/04/2024 18:45

Fascinated to know what @skipit81 was writing! Were they the ex's ex?!

Darhon · 19/04/2024 18:49

Split from my kids dad after a couple of decades. The final financial split was equal and we did 50:50. The kids have to have less now, I can’t find the same holidays. I have a new partner but would never expect them to contribute.

StormingNorman · 19/04/2024 18:55

I don’t think it’s wrong he made the financial decisions he did while you were together. What else would he base his expenses and affordability of schooling, hobbies etc on?

Now his outgoings are changing, he’ll need to revisit his financial position and adjust as needed.

I can understand him being upset about the impact it might have on the children but that’s for Him and his ex wife to resolve. The ex wife doesn’t get to comment about you.

GracefulGrandma · 19/04/2024 18:57

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:45

Thank you for the responses so far, I’m glad to see I’m not unreasonable, I felt quite upset that this could even be leveled at me.

To those wondering - it’s the specifics of ExDP’s comments that have bothered me. He is saying the cost of a school trip is now not able to be paid and the child knows they are going, so this will be a big emotional blow to them. Stopping the sport will also be upsetting as the other child has been doing it for awhile, has friends there and is good at it, and they will be very upset about this. In both cases I agree this is true. I wonder if I am being harsh and upsetting the children who are innocent in this (yes, their behaviour towards me is a big catalyst for the breakup, but I do accept they are tweens and not entirely responsible for their behaviour/attitudes at this age. I just can’t be around it anymore).

The school one also upsets me. I don’t want the children to leave school in critical years for them, as again this is not their fault, but surely no one can think I am responsible for the decision to have to move them?

You’re not responsible for the kids having to leave the school/give up a sport etc. The parents were basing their financial decisions on your income behind your back. It’s now up to them to live with the consequences of their actions. They’re probably going to slag you off but don’t worry about it. Block him and move onto someone who values you ❤️ ❤️

InsolentNoise · 19/04/2024 18:57

Please do not give him one more penny, despite the fact that you can afford it.

It makes me think that he will keep coming to you for help every time he hits an obstacle. And there are plenty ahead for him.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 19/04/2024 18:58

StormingNorman · 19/04/2024 18:55

I don’t think it’s wrong he made the financial decisions he did while you were together. What else would he base his expenses and affordability of schooling, hobbies etc on?

Now his outgoings are changing, he’ll need to revisit his financial position and adjust as needed.

I can understand him being upset about the impact it might have on the children but that’s for Him and his ex wife to resolve. The ex wife doesn’t get to comment about you.

I think the fact that his girlfriend wouldn’t let him contribute to her house whatsoever as she wanted to protect herself financially in the event of a break up should have been his first clue. Fine if they were sharing all household expenses, but they weren’t. He counted his chickens a bit early!

ZeldaFighter · 19/04/2024 19:05

I'm a bit surprised at these responses! If a woman had said "I've promised my children a school trip but my rich partner has chucked me out and never let me be on the mortgage so now I have nothing and the kids are gutted", I think she'd get a lot more sympathy!

Why didn't the rich OP care enough about her partner to at least point out his precarious financial situation?

They're not her kids but surely no stepchild is either and surely we would want them to be treated with respect.

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