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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
Riverlee · 19/04/2024 17:11

I’m wondering also whether dc were in private school prior to op’s relationship or has that come about because of the extra cash.

If not, as op and ex have only been together a short time, then that’s a quick decision.

if they were in private school first, then hiw was ex financing thus considering he was then paying for rent, bills, food etc.

Ditto for expensive sports lessons, clubs etc

sunshinestar1986 · 19/04/2024 17:13

Omg OP
You are the nicest and kindness person I ever heard about/read in awhile
Unfortunately, even if you do make a payment towards them, it might reduce their anger as they are very entitled people but they won't be grateful
I pray you meet a man as lovely as you and a family that deserves you ❤️
You deserve every happiness

sandyhappypeople · 19/04/2024 17:14

100% he was bringing the children tomorrow to apologise, most likely in the hope that you’d back down.

I feel that more of a warning could have been given, if they knew what could happen they may have re-evaluated their behaviour, but ultimately they need to learn they can’t treat people like shit.. you’re not their parent so certainly don’t have to put up with being disrespected in your own home.

stichguru · 19/04/2024 17:17

Not your problem - the kids are not your kids, or step-kids. Their dad steps up and funds them or they go without ... really shouldn't matter to you. I mean if you had said "I married their father after their mother had walked out on them/died, and they looked at up to me like a mother" then maybe some money and ongoing support. But the way they see you, "bye" before removing all contact and funds sounds 100% perfect.

ChangeAgain2 · 19/04/2024 17:19

@3LemonsAndLime your ex has been living beyond his means. You have been, kindly, supporting him and his kids lifestyles. He and his ex wife can be as angry as they want but his kids and their schooling, clubs, holidays are not your responsibility. They are the parents. They need to provide for their kids within their means.

Personally, I'd hire a selfstore. I'd put everything in the selfstore and give him a key. I'd give him X weeks to remove the goods otherwise you'll dispose of them. Then I'd go no contact.

He wants to bring with the kids to manipulate you. He's talking cash because he wants you toaje a financial commitment. He cares more about the cash than about the kids emotional wellbeing. The children shouldn't be party to these conversations or the bad atmosphere. People break up but generally we try to limit children exposer to it.

DumpedByText · 19/04/2024 17:20

He's being a dick and trying to manipulate you.

Text him you're sorry it's ended, wish him well and block him.

You owe him, his ex and his kids nothing and you know that!

PoppyFleur · 19/04/2024 17:23

@3LemonsAndLime I’m sorry your relationship has broken down, this must be hugely upsetting for you.

I’m adding my support and echoing the sentiments on you sounding like a lovely person.

Take time to heal from this relationship. Be kind to yourself and ignore the negative comments from your ex-DP, he is adjusting to his new reality. You are most certainly not responsible for his finances. He is an adult with agency, his decisions and that of his ex-wife’s are their own responsibility and choices.

I would not fund anything further, in fact I am surprised his children have not had activities or trips cancelled as a result of their disrespectful behaviour to you. Actions have consequences, had he addressed the situation sooner, realised just how unhappy you were in your own home, this could have been avoided. Do not feel guilty and be proud that you establish a boundary and refused to be mistreated.

It is time to put yourself first and heal from this heartbreak.

AlwaysGinPlease · 19/04/2024 17:24

Why are you even in contact? Block on everything. Their golden goose has stopped laying eggs and they're pissed off. So what. Lucky escape for you!

Uricon2 · 19/04/2024 17:28

@3LemonsAndLime I'm sure that the outrageous entitlement from exDP aside, you are upset about the breakup and possibly that his priority in all this seems to be financial.

I'd hold on to the fact that this has been a while coming and how you felt last weekend. This is a relatively short relationship and as has been said repeatedly, you owe him (and them) nothing. Be nice to yourself because it sounds like you tried very hard and deserved better.

StaunchMomma · 19/04/2024 17:28

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk..

Sounds like that sits firmly with his kids, not you!

You obviously don't have a financial responsibility to his kids.

I he wanted to maintain a relationship with you, he should have ensured his kids respect you in your own home.

I'm sure he'll try to rekindle things with you. Just bear in mind that this could be purely for his own financial gain.

Tread carefully, OP. And put yourself first.

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 19/04/2024 17:30

I'm glad you're stepping away from the thread op, you need a bit of you time and a regroup ❤️
I've rtft and let me tell you it's not you it's him.
You sound like a wonderful person who's taken just about as much as they can.
Exdp certainly knows which strings to pull and which buttons to press with you.
Don't let him get to you, don't let him back in the house, don't let his DC back in the house, don't offer him any money to set up home.
You owe him and his DC nothing, don't let him tug at your heartstrings.
They had their chance, all they had to do was treat you with kindness and respect, instead they treated you dreadfully.
Expecting you to feel guilty because the DC's lifestyle is about to change is laughable, being angry because you are no longer subsiding their lifestyle is mind-blowing.
You've been more than generous and have had that generosity thrown back in your face.
Your dsis and bil sound like superstars, lean on them ❤️

hollyandivyknickers · 19/04/2024 17:31

Hugs for you @3LemonsAndLime , you sound really nice. Well done for putting yourself first. Spend some time and money on yourself.

FiveLamps · 19/04/2024 17:32

hollyandivyknickers · 19/04/2024 17:31

Hugs for you @3LemonsAndLime , you sound really nice. Well done for putting yourself first. Spend some time and money on yourself.

I second this!

Have or do something this weekend that will help you relax and feel better. :-)

Freesia9 · 19/04/2024 17:33

Interesting that he's talking about the ending of your relationship in terms of his financial loss.

Mix56 · 19/04/2024 17:34

Dramalamabangbang.
Yes. But OP is hurting right now, her relationship has floundered.
She clearly cared for the DCs. The kids she does not have. She was generous with her time.
It is easy to say, ditch the freeloaders. Harder to do.
& Yes, i agree a letter from kids would be orchestrated by the parents for their own benefit

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 19/04/2024 17:35

Freesia9 · 19/04/2024 17:33

Interesting that he's talking about the ending of your relationship in terms of his financial loss.

This.

Easipeelerie · 19/04/2024 17:36

Glad your sister will be there instead of you. If you were there he’d say some very unreasonable things and you might start to buckle.
Don't give him anything to help set himself up. That might have been an idea if he’d been reasonable but he and his ex wife have been shocking to you over this.

BirthdayRainbow · 19/04/2024 17:36

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Some people don't get the childhood and upbringing they should and can be academically and professionally very successful but still be vulnerable in emotional, romantic or mental health situations. They should be supported not derided.

@3LemonsAndLime I am not saying you didn't get a good childhood as obviously I don't know and I'm not presuming anything about you. I just felt it is was an unfair and short sighted comment so was posting as a more general thought.

LeafLead · 19/04/2024 17:38

Definitely don't be dragged into problem solving the school trip or anything in particular.

(I'd say the parents could even use a credit card if it's that bad and then pay it off asap. But don't get sucked into giving advice. These aren't your friends).

Have a "broken record" line like "That's nothing to do with me, I hope you get it sorted" and block everyone everywhere after you've got rid of the stuff.

Or it will be a case of wheedling out a contribution for the next terms fees, and then something else...it's extortion and blackmail. Once you give in, they'll keep on.

Yes it may feel a bit hurtful for the children to go from a super posh lifestyle to an perfectly fine one.

But are you then going to be expected to continue subbing them so they can keep up with their private school friends? They'll just have to make do, same as many, many children do.

There's more than enough money to give them a good standard of living - they feel entitled to yours as well.

Don't get into 1-1 messaging or tearful goodbyes, it's just begging for money isn't it? Or tell them you need a loan yourself and have secret debts and see how "close" their are then

DungareesAndTrombones · 19/04/2024 17:40

Sorry but who gives a royal FUCK what the parents of the children imagine they are entitled to from your wage?!

You are well rid hope you fuck him off ASAP!

funinthesun19 · 19/04/2024 17:41

Oh well. The parents and their kids will just have get on with it.

Not your problem.

LuckyPeonies · 19/04/2024 17:45

Yes, exDP said ex wife was very angry and thought I had more integrity than this.

i find this absolutely infuriating!! The utter nerve, to feel entitled to be angry at you, and to question YOUR integrity because you will no longer fund the lifestyle of the children THEY chose to have.

They are also the ones who chose to divorce and fund two separate households (until he moved in with you), despite producing two (horrid) children on whom more money could have been spent without a divorce. Which apparently is not a breach of their moral obligation, but YOU lack integrity for ending a 3 year, child-free relationship and are now morally obligated to continue financial support for children who have nothing to do with you and are insufferable??? Absolutely outrageous!!

You are well rid of the lot of them and in your shoes I would not even gift the bedroom furniture. Donating it to a children’s home or another cause would be much more appropriate.

Farahfawsett · 19/04/2024 17:45

I understand why you need to step away for a bit OP, but I just want to say PLEASE don't give your ex any money.

Believe me, he won't be grateful for it, because whatever you give him, he will then think he was owed something from you and inevitably that will lead to him believing you short changed him in some way (sounds ridiculous but I'm sure others on here will have had similar experiences of this).

An ex of mine profited from me massively by living with me rent free, me paying off some of his debts and letting him use my car for work.

When I found out he was cheating, I kicked him out, but I did say I'd help him move some stuff from my place to near where he worked as he wouldn't be able to get it there otherwise. Once we got there he asked me to give him my car (permanently, as a gift 🙄) and when I said no, he asked me to loan it to him for a few months because "I owe him at least that."

There was no thanks for all I'd done for him, the free lodgings and meals and car insurance etc. No thanks for digging him out of crippling debt whilst giving him a nice home and holidays etc. all while he was "working late" and shagging his OW.

He genuinely felt hard done by that I didn't give him more.

Once they've been on the gravy train for a while the gratefulness decreases and the expectations rise.

Over40Overdating · 19/04/2024 17:47

Bloody hell @3LemonsAndLime ! You sound like a lovely, kind, generous person and your ex sounds like a twat.

I absolutely disagree with pps who suggest you should have pre warned him that if the kids didn’t fix up you would end things, as that would have reduced your generosity to conditional rewards rather than heartfelt gestures as your trips for books and hot chocolate as well as paying for furniture and holidays sound.

The kids behaviour is not hard to understand given the response from your ex DP and his ex wife - entitled, thankless shits as parents results in ungrateful entitled kids.

That your ex P and his ex sat down and made concerted, thought out, long term financial decisions based on YOUR earnings and ability to subsidise them all is bonkers. No wonder they are mad - their cash cow has run dry.

I know it must sting to feel that your ex P was only in it for money and the long term future you had planned has now disappeared but you are well away from that bunch of cheeky grifters and their open hands and empty pockets.

You sound like a lovely person who deserves so much more than being treated like this.

Your sister sounds very astute and has your best interest at heart. Let her do the handover and be your guardian til the grifters are out of your life for good.

Ghostgirl77 · 19/04/2024 17:47

YADNBU!

He should have been putting some of his extra spare income away in savings as a precaution in case your relatively new relationship didn’t work out, then he would’ve had money for a house deposit, childrens’ costs, monthly bills etc. to tide him over. It is not your fault that he has been financially irresponsible, it is bad parenting on his part.

If you are having trouble getting him to collect stuff or don’t want him coming to the house, a good option is to rent a storage unit and put it all in there, pay for the first month or whatever and then send him the keys. He can either remove it or pay for further storage as needed but he then has no further need to contact you or come to your house. It’s a good way to get a clean break if you are feeling hassled.

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