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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

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Wishihadanalgorithm · 19/04/2024 16:44

Step away from him and his kids.

If he and his ex can’t afford things for their kids then they need to get better jobs, hadn’t they?

Let him get his stuff (without the kids being present) and make sure he hands over the key.

Look forward to a life without him and the kids draining you!

blacktreacles · 19/04/2024 16:45

Even when things were good with your exdp , you had the good sense to set up and plan for of this break up were to ever happen. Now that it has happened, it’s clear that your exdp and his children’s mother did not share this thinking. Sounds like they made choices above their means, it should be a lesson to them.

WaterWheeloffortune · 19/04/2024 16:45

I presume that the disrespect that you received had been ongoing for some time & that is why you ended the relationship.

It is good that you have created some boundaries to protect yourself

I would take some time to do some things for yourself, perhaps a holiday, a new hobby, travel, reflect, sport

Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 16:46

I can understand it being a difficult situation having to suddenly find alternative accommodation @lateatwork but I don't see how funding his children (for hobbies, trips or anything) has become the OP's responsibility? Especially as this seems to have come as a surprise to her and she had no say/communication/agreement about it. Now he is emotionally dumping on her unreasonably IMO.

In the OP she said that he earns a very good wage, well above average so he is far from being on the breadline and won't be out on the streets.

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/04/2024 16:50

He afforded a place before he met you so he will again

No you shouldnt pay for the kids school or trips

Guessing a ski trip or foreign site-seeing trip

Did they not go to private school when met ? Or literally started last year or so

Why can't he have the kids at parents overnight. They have the bed or a blow up bed.

He has the sofa

scottishceliac · 19/04/2024 16:52

It would seem your generous nature might not be respected and they sound very entitled also , so sorry but I think they will make it even more stressful and toxic if you allow him to stay any our life. hopefully the next person you meet will be of the same financial situation as you are and you wont be funding their lifestyles. Good Luck Im sure you wont be short of meeting decent
men.

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 16:53

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You're behaving like an annoying fly you just can't get rid of!

Do you have a caps lock key?

CantGetDecentNickname · 19/04/2024 16:54

You seem a really nice kind person OP and your sister and her DH seem very decent too. I'm also shocked at the way he has behaved and is continuing to behave in trying to involve his DC in guilt tripping you. I wouldn't attribute too much to his ExW as you can't be sure if what he has told her is true or not, or if what he has told you about her is true or not.

The only fact you do know is that he thought he was entitled to your income, planned accordingly and kept this a secret from you. He is also prepared to use his DC in an appalling way with his intention of bringing them with him.

You are being very kind in gifting them the furniture and bedding that you bought for their use in your house. That really is enough. I expect if you don't pay for the school trip he will appeal to someone else, most likely his parents. Private school, expensive school trips and expensive hobbies are luxuries not essentials that you only have if you can afford them. The DC have two parents who may have to cut back a bit in their own lives or try to change jobs in order to do this. I'm guessing that his ExW may not have gone on holiday if she knew there was a school trip to pay for so think she may not be in full possession of the facts. This is his mess to sort. Please do not reward him for letting you feel like running away from your own house.

I wish you well and hope all goes well tomorrow.

WrylyAmused · 19/04/2024 16:55

slippedonabanana · 19/04/2024 15:30

I haven’t ruled out making some payment to him to help get him in a rental property.

He is a piece of dirt if he asks for, or accepts, any money from you after living rent free for two years. But I suspect you already know now what he is.

Seriously. Don't do this. He's got a job, and he's staying at his mum's. He'll sort himself out.

It's no longer your problem and you owe him as little morally as you do legally.
He lived rent free for 2 years, why has he not saved anything against this possibility???

Singleandproud · 19/04/2024 16:55

@3LemonsAndLime you sound awesome.

Have you ever considered being a foster carer. There is often particular demand for emergency foster carers to take children in-between moving from their home and into more permanent placement. It isn't a role suitable for lots of people and it can be tricky and need alot of emotional resilience but you sound like you are patient, caring and level headed with a lot of love to give

skipit81 · 19/04/2024 16:55

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GreekDogRescue · 19/04/2024 16:57

Well done for removing this thankless cocklodger and his ghastly dependents from your life.

MsRosley · 19/04/2024 16:57

What a pair of chancers. No wonder the kids aren't very pleasant.

Springtime43 · 19/04/2024 16:57

Singleandproud · 19/04/2024 16:55

@3LemonsAndLime you sound awesome.

Have you ever considered being a foster carer. There is often particular demand for emergency foster carers to take children in-between moving from their home and into more permanent placement. It isn't a role suitable for lots of people and it can be tricky and need alot of emotional resilience but you sound like you are patient, caring and level headed with a lot of love to give

This probably isn’t the right time for a big decision like that?

ememem84 · 19/04/2024 16:59

i've read the full thread and am a bit shocked at the audacity of him. i mean who does that?

Whatifthehokeycokey · 19/04/2024 17:00

Lillers · 19/04/2024 16:03

If the roles were reversed and OP was a man, nobody would be expecting her to make payments to “soften the blow” on the children.

If she was posting as the person who had been kicked out (for want of a better term) and was complaining that she now couldn’t afford the kids’ activities/lifestyle, people would be piling on her for not managing her own finances and relying too much on the ex-partner.

OP, you have to do what you feel is right. You have made your decision and are seeing it through, and you have no obligations beyond this. It is up to your ex and his ex to work out how to support the children, both financially and emotionally. He might be panicking right now, but that is because he doesn’t want to blame himself or his children, and so he’s taking it out on you. It is not your fault that he didn’t manage his finances sensibly, and it is his and his ex’s job to manage the children’s wellbeing and how they cope. And they will cope, don’t you worry about that.

If the roles were reversed and OP was a man, nobody would be expecting her to make payments to “soften the blow” on the children.

I thought this as well.

Singleandproud · 19/04/2024 17:02

@Springtime43 ofcourse not, just something for OP to ponder going forward.

itsmylife7 · 19/04/2024 17:02

Him and his children's "meal ticket " you, has finally come to the end.

Don't let them guilt you in to anything.

How hurtful that you've been unknowingly funding his ex and their children amazing life.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 19/04/2024 17:03

You have only lived together for a couple of years. Decisions about things like private school would not and should not have been taken contingent on you.
Let them all huff and blow. Change the locks and turn off your phone

IMustDoMoreExercise · 19/04/2024 17:03

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That's why I said if she liked the child.

GoingDownLikeBHS · 19/04/2024 17:05

The more I read the more I think the OP isn't handling this very well at all, I hope her sister has more sense - OP planning ways to give this family more money?!

Hadalifeonce · 19/04/2024 17:06

Your ex and his ex made financial decisions based on something he had no control over.
They have been totally unreasonable and reckless. Leave them to sort out their own financial strategy without you. It's a shame the children have to do without, but that kind of thing happens in families all the time; one parent dies or is made redundant, marriages breakdown.
Do not allow them to guilt you into paying anything to them/ their children.

Mercurysinretrograde · 19/04/2024 17:07

OP, you are not a cash cow. The children have 2 parents who saw fit to produce them. Maybe they need to take an extra job to support their own children. Run as fast as you can.

NotAgainWilson · 19/04/2024 17:09

Op, the bottom line is that being tweens is not the issue. If his children are rude and disconsiderate at school, it may be more understandable, but if they are not… that only proves that the kids are capable not to be rude and they are rude to you because HE is allowing it.

My child, tween, teen and now adult son has never been rude to my partner. I would have never allowed him to, not because the guy is my partner but because he, as any other person, deserves respect and consideration. If they wouldn’t be rude to a stranger, how is it ok that that they are rude to you? Simple answer, because they know they will get away with it and dad would be useless at stopping them.

It is therefore bad news for him and his kids that aside of being a partner you were such a big support financially, but again… he could have made the same decisions without considering your money but he chose to assume you would be subsidising him WITHOUT even asking you.

I understand you will be upset for this break up but see it like this: if you think a rude tween is bad, that same tween would be a far worse teenager so run while you can, it is not your fault.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 19/04/2024 17:11

Mix56 · 19/04/2024 15:56

OP, you sound a really lovely "Step Mum" & Im not talking about the huge benefits they got due to their father's most recent partnership.
The reading, the cooking etc. I wonder if their own Mum does as much?

However, IF they have to change schools/stop horse dressage/other, you will forever be scorned. They will hold you responsible sadly.
I doubt their father will own up to being too generous with funds that he couldn't maintain if the relationship ended.
Or that spoiling them made them into entitled toxic adolescents.
Or that you had not even been aware of his overspending abusing the situation
Or that they should have listened when told their attitude wasn't acceptable & that you were in no way obliged to accept it, & when it made you want to be absent when they were over, it was that watershed moment when you were forced to choose yourself over them.

What would you do if they rang or wrote to apologise, & promised to make changes ?
It might happen.

I mean, being 'forever scorned' by a couple of freeloaders who you never have to have anything to do with again- who cares? Even if the kids do apologise, if I was the OP, I would never think that was sincere ( it wouldn't be) just a manipulative way for the parents to subsidise their lifestyles.

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