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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

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Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 15:43

OP if you give him some sort of payment to help him on his way he won't be grateful and you will be (and probably will always be) the 'bad guy' IMO. Personally I think you have been generous enough and continue to be so sending on the childrens' bedroom furniture.

MmedeGouge · 19/04/2024 15:43

I would be very wary of giving him a lump sum, even if it were made clear it was an ex gracia payment.
If you have any friends with legal knowledge, I would be running it past them first. Just a thought.

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gettingbackonit23 · 19/04/2024 15:45

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Yeah I wouldn’t have done it but it’s not blending families to the extent it is when both parties have kids. Still probably too much too soon although I think OP said they were together for 3 years and only lived together for one year. So not quite as bad although by that stage she’d only known the kids a year and three months which is still early days.

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Apolloneuro · 19/04/2024 15:46

He’s acting like a toad, as for his ex 😳

However, as a gesture of good will do you feel able to pay for the school trip and one more term of the activity, to soften the blow?

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gettingbackonit23 · 19/04/2024 15:47

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Why? Just because she let her boyfriend move in? She was sensible enough to have the house in her sole name - you get women having babies with guys they’ve known a matter of months. She’s been pretty savvy and she’s not tolerated bullshit from his kids - as shown by her breaking up with him when she realised it wasn’t working. He’s the one who’s the twat, not her.

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 19/04/2024 15:47

Don't give him any money OP. Whatever amount you decide on won't be enough to shield him and his children from the impact of the breakup, and undoubtedly he won't be grateful for your generosity. Their lives have changed, they need to get used to the new normal.

Any responsible adult would have tried to accumulate sufficient savings to cope with unforeseen events, like losing a job for example. He has had ample opportunity to save and has chosen not to do so. For someone with 2 children and few outgoings, that is inexcusable.

gettingbackonit23 · 19/04/2024 15:49

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I thought she said that for the first year he lived at her place but kept his own place for weekend contact and he then gave that up and moved in with her with the kids.

Herdinggoats · 19/04/2024 15:49

Apolloneuro · 19/04/2024 15:46

He’s acting like a toad, as for his ex 😳

However, as a gesture of good will do you feel able to pay for the school trip and one more term of the activity, to soften the blow?

Soften the blow 🙄 sorry you shitty little kids have driven our relationship into the ground. Let me pay for a holiday for them.

LemonyFace · 19/04/2024 15:52

Apolloneuro · 19/04/2024 15:46

He’s acting like a toad, as for his ex 😳

However, as a gesture of good will do you feel able to pay for the school trip and one more term of the activity, to soften the blow?

I've said it before on this thread, but I'll say it again just for you.......
Are you out of your ever loving mind????

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 15:53

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/04/2024 15:38

FWIW - I don't think your relationship was based on what you were worth to him financially as some have suggested - I think this was just somewhat that "was" - it could have been the other way round and he the bigger earner.

However, I think that over the years he and his kids have become complacent and taken both your affection and your generosity for granted, and made their plans accordingly.

Please don't allow yourself to be devalued as a person because of what has happened.

He's had a hell of a shock - he thought the two of you were solid (for want of a better term) and didn't realise that you were on your last nerve (this doesn't excuse him - he should have seen how the kids' behaviour was distressing you). He probably also assumed that you loved his children as much as he did, because you are obviously very fond of them - but you aren't their parent and do not have to let them walk all over you.

On the issue of was he with me or because he liked the lifestyle/money - my sister quoted Marilyn Monroe (in a movie) me: “Don’t you know that a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? You wouldn’t marry a girl just because she’s pretty, but my goodness, doesn’t it help?”

Reversing the genders, she thinks he did like me, but over time was forming the view that my income/lifestyle definitely ‘helped’.

I know she meant well by this, but I’ll be honest, it makes me feel absolutely terrible. I’m not showy with my money or lifestyle. I’ve used it to secure my financial position, and that of my close family. I try to be quietly generous to family and friends with gifts or picking up dinner bills, but never in a way that is ‘seen’ or might embarrass them or draw attention to the fact I have done so. It’s quite mortifying that unbeknownst to me, someone had different plans for the money I earn and in such a grand way.

I’ll step away from the thread now, as I am abit upset, but I will return and update tomorrow once exDP has been over and things are (hopefully) more resolved/over.

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Bigcat25 · 19/04/2024 15:53

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That's a bit rude and overly personal. We don't need to interrogate her when she's already upset and probably busy trying to deal with work and this situation.

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Verv · 19/04/2024 15:54

No more money.
No "meeting to talk" aka wheeling his kids round to make apologetic noises in order to push you towards relenting.

Sack him and his ex off and get on with your life.

Apolloneuro · 19/04/2024 15:54

Herdinggoats · 19/04/2024 15:49

Soften the blow 🙄 sorry you shitty little kids have driven our relationship into the ground. Let me pay for a holiday for them.

Well the kids are probably just being typical little gits. As a pp said, birth parents don’t usually get the opportunity to walk away (not criticising the OP, but expect the kids’ behaviour is probably fairly typical)

It's also not the kids’ fault that their parents haven’t financially planned adequately. How ridiculous to put kids in private school based on the income of one, step parent.

My son and husband had an actual scuffle when son was an obnoxious teen. They run a business together now. Said child is nearly 40.

Dontbeme · 19/04/2024 15:54

@3LemonsAndLime If you are inclined to give money away you could make a donation to a domestic violence charity and help another person that doesn't have your resources to leave and live a safer life. Please don't spend another penny on this guy or his DC, you do not need to help him with a deposit for a rental property or his DC with school trips or clubs. Your kindness and good nature are being preyed upon, no matter how much you give it will never be enough, you help him with the DC club costs this month, so why not next month, the month after that they need new kit, after that it's a club trip, it will be never ending. These two adults made choices for their DC based on your income and hard work and they did that without speaking to you, they just assumed they could reach into your pocket and spend your money.

skipit81 · 19/04/2024 15:55

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RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 19/04/2024 15:56

He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

He's got used to having more disposable income not considering why or that it could quickly change if relationship failed. Lifestyles expand to fit incomes - sensible people would probably have saved built up a safety net but over time people can easily get lax.

None of it's your issue OP or your problem to solve and is nothing to do with you.

As a parent our financial circumstances have changed and trips that we could afford got tight - haven't had to say no but it's been financially hard with lots of belt tightening and yes had to stop hobbies due to money - sadly that's life. I think we've often pushed to give the kids experience and even now there is a lot of things I wished we could have done with them before they left home but financial constraints made it impossible. Long term I think it's had little impact on the DC - so short term disappointment won't cause long term upset.

I think your plan not to there when he comes to pick his stuff up is a good one - and if your not there kids being there or not can be ignored. I'd say this is parents lashing out in disappointment and picking an entirely inappropriate target. I'd stick to plan to cut contact and move on with your life.

Mix56 · 19/04/2024 15:56

OP, you sound a really lovely "Step Mum" & Im not talking about the huge benefits they got due to their father's most recent partnership.
The reading, the cooking etc. I wonder if their own Mum does as much?

However, IF they have to change schools/stop horse dressage/other, you will forever be scorned. They will hold you responsible sadly.
I doubt their father will own up to being too generous with funds that he couldn't maintain if the relationship ended.
Or that spoiling them made them into entitled toxic adolescents.
Or that you had not even been aware of his overspending abusing the situation
Or that they should have listened when told their attitude wasn't acceptable & that you were in no way obliged to accept it, & when it made you want to be absent when they were over, it was that watershed moment when you were forced to choose yourself over them.

What would you do if they rang or wrote to apologise, & promised to make changes ?
It might happen.

ttcat37 · 19/04/2024 15:56

Why do you care? They aren’t your children, they aren’t your problem. If the children weren’t unacceptably rude to you, or if the parents had disciplined them so they weren’t unacceptably rude to you, then they’d still be living their charmed life. If they miss trips/ can’t do hobbies/ have to leave private school then that’s their own fault, not yours. This is the consequence of their own actions. And it’s not out of order to tell them all so. Then block them.

gettingbackonit23 · 19/04/2024 15:57

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Not really. She let him move in, tried to make it work, was nice to his kids and paid for things but made sure she protected her financial position. He and his kids were unable to appreciate her kindness so she rightly told them to sling their hook and she has no messy financial entanglements to deal with now because she was sensible. She didn’t buy a house with him, get pregnant immediately or any of the many things that really would have made her vulnerable.

skipit81 · 19/04/2024 15:58

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