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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

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protectthesmallones · 19/04/2024 15:33

You've been put in a horrible position and In no way did you contribute to this.

They say no good deed goes unpunished!

Your ex and his exW shouldn't (particularly your ex partner) have been cutting their cloth to suit his new circumstances.

It's easy with hindsight but maybe he should have kept up a place for his children to stay and just been at your house in the in between times.

Both him and his ex wife have decided this extra money could be spent on their children without a thought of your contribution to his overall living costs and whether you were happy to continue.

His circumstances have changed, in much the same way as if he'd lost hours at work. So they will just have to work it out.
Maybe his ex could pick up the deficit? Maybe they could get a loan to cover the extra expenses they have committed to.

You are absolutely not in the wrong and I think this situation and the reaction to it speaks very loudly. Not quite cash cow but definitely facilitator without your knowledge.

He's spent beyond his means and can't see this as an error.

Good thing you weren't married, it should make the extrication a little smoother.

BMW6 · 19/04/2024 15:33

Don't buy a goodbye gift for the children OP! You are giving them the bedroom furniture!

Nor should you give the ex any settlement. You don't like being thought of as a cash machine, but your proposed actions are belying that.

His children were rude to you. Don't reward rudeness.

He has saved a fortune in the 3 years. That was enough. Don't devalue yourself by giving him money.

burnttoad · 19/04/2024 15:34

OP ask him if he was happy to go back to the way it was 12 months ago where you didn't live together.

If he really loved you he would say yes. If he sees you partly if not wholly as a cash machine he will say no.

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MissRosePhallus · 19/04/2024 15:34

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RTFT.

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sweetgingercat · 19/04/2024 15:35

Also who would expose their kids to this kind of break up/collect your clothes/goodbye meeting. That’s utter madness and thoughtlessness for his kids.

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Skyisbluegrassisgreen · 19/04/2024 15:36

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/04/2024 10:45

If they expected the money from your hard work to benefit their children they should have ensured their children treated you better. Cheeky fuckers.

You know you’ve done the right thing dumping him. What an entitled twat. He can move back in with his ex if they’re so bloody chummy in their bitter resentment of you.

When’s he moving out? Given his tantrum I’d make it tomorrow at the latest. You owe him nothing, he’s clearly taken plenty.

Get your house back from him and his unpleasant kids and enjoy your peace and sanctuary.

Exactly! Life lesson give the kids - you act like arses then there are consequences.

SaffronSpice · 19/04/2024 15:37

I might consider a one-off ‘goodbye’ payment for the children’s trip (paid directly to provider). Not because the parents in any way deserve it or should not have to find the money themselves, but because you were part of the children’s lives. You were a step parent to them for a significant portion of their lives. You claim you were a little family. Tweens can be obnoxious and you don’t have to put up with it when it they aren’t your kids, but it really isn’t their fault they are standard issue children. The breakdown isn’t their fault, it is yours - you have decided that this awkward age is not something you want to deal with and you have had enough of their dad. It is perfectly reasonable to feel that way but please don’t be party to letting them think this is their fault.

pinkstripeycat · 19/04/2024 15:37

WhiteLeopard · 19/04/2024 10:35

YANBU at all and they had no right to make financial decisions assuming any input from you (even indirectly). In particular - making a school choice was really stupid of them!

I do have some sympathy about the short term decisions such as the school trip. It's natural to think "yes that should be fine" rather than "but what if Lemons and I split up before the trip?". Maybe as a goodwill gesture you could offer to pay for the trip? But make it clear that this is a one-off and that you are doing it as a nice gesture, not as an expectation.

What?! Are you crazy! Why should OP offer a goodwill gesture?

That makes no sense at all

Herdingcatz · 19/04/2024 15:37

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I think quite a few property owning women on here would agree that divorced men who have left the family home are very quick to move THEMSELVES in.

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/04/2024 15:38

FWIW - I don't think your relationship was based on what you were worth to him financially as some have suggested - I think this was just somewhat that "was" - it could have been the other way round and he the bigger earner.

However, I think that over the years he and his kids have become complacent and taken both your affection and your generosity for granted, and made their plans accordingly.

Please don't allow yourself to be devalued as a person because of what has happened.

He's had a hell of a shock - he thought the two of you were solid (for want of a better term) and didn't realise that you were on your last nerve (this doesn't excuse him - he should have seen how the kids' behaviour was distressing you). He probably also assumed that you loved his children as much as he did, because you are obviously very fond of them - but you aren't their parent and do not have to let them walk all over you.

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There's no man as keen or romantic as one in need of a (free) home.

kkloo · 19/04/2024 15:38

stardustbiscuits · 19/04/2024 11:41

I’m not sure given your update that I agree with everyone’s responses. Moving in with children is a huge commitment, and it wasn’t u reasonable for the parents to make financial decisions based on the disposable income they both had in those circumstances. Ending that relationship, removing the children’s home and significantly altering their circumstances with no proper discussion or warning was harsh. That doesn’t mean you don’t ‘have the right’, of course you do, but it’s not fair and reasonable and it’s obviously come as a shock. Being a stepparent to tweenagers was never going to be easy. You mentioned that you thought ‘you were a little family’ … well it doesn’t appear that way.

My daughter is 11 and very challenging! It’s not just step parents who suffer that … families stick together and certainly talk things through at length before making big decisions.

Of course it was unreasonable.
You can't make big financial decisions based on another persons earnings. He was only with the OP for 3 years, living with her for 2 in her house. There was no legal commitment, marriage etc.

It was extremely foolish. If he had discussed this with the OP and said I'm putting them in X school and doing x, y and z with them which will mean continuing to rely on you financially and she said not to worry about that and assured her commitment to them then you might have a point.

You said it there yourself in the last sentence, families stick together and certainly talk things through at length before making big decisions.

He didn't though. He just decided for himself that the OP was going to subsidise his whole lifestyle for the next few years at least and made big decisions/commitments based on that.

BirthdayRainbow · 19/04/2024 15:38

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/04/2024 15:14

I'm surprised you even need to ask - of course you are obligated to cover the cost of his children's school trips or other activities.

Have you mis-typed? 😶

Sarcasm..

Takemethere · 19/04/2024 15:40

OP if ex wife is away this weekend and he has no space for his kids to stay with him at his parents, then he can go to them at his ex wife's house. The children will be in the comfort of their own home.

Also do not pay anything towards any rental or accommodation for him or the children. They are not your responsibility.

I think you have been financially abused the past 3 years and now emotionally by his guilt trip outburst.

You are not thinking straight so do nothing for them right now. You have decided to return their belongings so do that - giving them their bedroom furniture and other items they have in your house you purchased as gifts to them. Remind yourself you are a good person in doing that as I and many others wouldn't.

therealcookiemonster · 19/04/2024 15:41

@3LemonsAndLime OP please please don't give him any money. he has already taken more than enough from you. how dare he question YOUR integrity.

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Alwaysalwayscold · 19/04/2024 15:42

These decisions can't have all been made overnight. How quickly into your relationship did he start planning his (and his kids') lifestyle based on your money?

theworldie · 19/04/2024 15:42

Of course you’re not being unreasonable. It sounds like you’ve been used as a meal ticket and those on the take are pissed off it’s come to an end.

This. You sound like a nice person op - he’s lucky you didn’t laugh in his face!

Thank god you didn’t marry him, he’s the type would go after spousal support and whatever else he could get.

Pheasantsmate · 19/04/2024 15:42

Alwaysalwayscold · 19/04/2024 15:42

These decisions can't have all been made overnight. How quickly into your relationship did he start planning his (and his kids') lifestyle based on your money?

I’d probably guess 90 minutes

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/04/2024 15:42

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:20

He wants to bring the children as they have some stuff in the rooms they have here in my house and they need to collect it. He says we could all sit down and talk when they do

Bringing the children to collect things seems awful to me, as a parent wouldn’t you collect it for your children rather than have them pack and it be awkward and emotional? I am happy for them to have everything in their rooms - not just the books, clothes and personal stuff they kept here, but even the stuff I paid for - furniture and bedding etc - , however I know he won’t have space for it yet until he rents a place. I DO NOT want to ‘hold’ it for him. I just want this over.

I am going to ask my sister to be here tomorrow instead of me. I think seeing the children will make it worse. And I don’t like the idea of the talk. It seems to be a way to kind of wiggle back into being here and resuming things

Very wise not to be present.

He says we could all sit down and talk when they do

F*ck that. there is nothing to "talk" about.

Secondguess · 19/04/2024 15:42

I think your plan for tomorrow is sensible and hope everything goes well. I would suggest not being too accommodating regarding him collecting their things- for example set an end date that they must be collected by, otherwise you'll arrange their disposal. This may sound unnecessary now but he could choose to make things difficult by dragging the process out. There are plenty of charities who would be delighted to collect the furniture and pass it on to appropriate families.

I hope everything goes smoothly. I suspect you may start to see more flaws in the relationship as you reconsider the history. I hope you can be frank with your sister or other people in real life. You sound like someone who tends to see the best in people so even though he's being unfair, your initial approach is to wonder if there is some truth in his attacks. There isn't. You've come to the decision rationally, and now the important thing is to get his things out of the house as soon as possible so you can all move on.

Wishing you well

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