Don't be poor, disabled, sick or elderly . .

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/apr/19/rishi-sunak-sicknote-culture-welfare-reform-post-office-horizon-conservatives-labour-uk-politics-lastest-updates

So this is a big part of the next Tory strategy to get elected.

I hope the buggers don't get in

I mean the fact that virtually no one can access health care probably contributed to the reason they're ill.
Oh that and now working until they're almost 70!

I don’t want too many people coming back into the job market, there isn’t an abundance of jobs in my area apart from Support Workers, Drivers and Warehouse Operatives

Forcing skilled people out of jobs because there are too many people with those skills means that they will be forced to take these jobs, though, leading to fewer vacancies. It's all part of a plan, I'm sure. Bastards.

This is the problem, and the one that already exists for PIP etc. The assessments are done by underqualified people who are incentivised to reject applicants for spurious reasons. A lot of people rejected for PIP are then granted it on appeal - but the number of people who don't have the time/energy/skills to appeal is high. The same thing is likely to happen with this.

@SickeningCulture
I voted for Cameron as thought Tories would be more fiscally responsible. I didn't think austerity would go as far as it did. Regretting my decision and the absolute shitshow that followed won't help you, but I am sorry.
Thank you. 💐

out of curiosity would these changes have to go through parlament??

lets hope they get voted out im sick of being a easy target

I don’t really understand what’s being proposed.

GP’s only provide sick notes if you’re employed. Assessors are already used for claiming long term benefits UC/ESA if unable to work due to health and PIP. What is Rishi on about?

Exactly PIP is not an out of work benefit.

On UC people who are not employed but wanting to claim the LCW/ LCWRA element of UC are asked to submit sick notes to get the work capability process started.

So just checking in and see I have had a post deleted with a link to talk guidelines on 19th April at I think 11.45?

Can anyone enlighten me as I have no clue what was so offensive 🤔?

hi baby im sure i asked you before im being transferred to UC in the Autumn im in the ESA support group and thought i just tell them and i dont have tp provide any sick notes as they will see im in the support group,can you clarify please?thanks

Yes that's correct. You should automatically have the LCWRA element added to your first UC statement but it may be wise to just leave a message on your journal once it is set up to let them know.

thank you once again ,yes i will good advice

How much money is lost to tax evasion?.
Typical conservative rhetoric
Go after the poor.
Somethings never change.
Michelle money and husband fucked off with millions.

Isn’t that just for a few weeks then a DWP assessment happens anyway?

So his statement is just about people who claim UC/ESA where the GP provides sick notes for a few weeks this will be done by an assessor instead of a GP? I don’t see how this will reduce the number of people claiming benefits, unless they change the assessment criteria from what it is now.

And GPs will still have to provide evidence for the assessor to make the decision about the sick note. So Rishi just added a whole extra level of complexity (which will necessitate more funding for DWP) making the whole process more expensive and convoluted for everyone involved. Rishi, tell me you don't know how the benefits system works without telling me you don't know how the benefits system works ..

This is nothing but a way of bunging yet more public money to their mates (I.e. the private provider who gets the contract), while appeasing the Daily Mail readership.

It won't save money, because it will cost so much to implement. And it won't save NHS time because healthcare professionals will still be needed for the assessments. It will also have the effect of increasing the number of genuinely sick people who struggle to get the support they need. 'Triffic.

I can't believe people are so petty and small minded as to be fooled by this shit.

Just leaving this here: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/23/rishi-sunak-dementia-adviser-resigns-over-treatment-of-unpaid-carers

Rishi announced today £500 million for Ukraine now does anybody know the total sent so far

im not against doing our bit but announcing this after last weeks sick note speech it makes me cross tbh

Ummm I can’t believe I just read that. Have you any idea what will happen if we DONT stand by Ukraine? Russia will invade a NATO country next, and we will be in the midst of WWW3. Russia have to be stopped or you won’t be here to enjoy your benefits!

Seriously some people are just so limited in their thinking skills. Ukraine is a small part of a much bigger picture.

Shock horror I agree with @Polishedshoesalways on something!

You can't conflate the two issues, Russia is absolutely a danger far beyond Ukraine.

😂😂

Yes, my mistake it does say that the data they used was between 2011/2013, but the effect of the underfunding of the NHS that Cameron and Osborne began in 2011 would not be seen by 2013.

The NHS scored the highest in 10 of the 12 metrics, third highest in one and then as you say near the bottom in healthy lives. Overall the NHS was top of course.

After the global crash I’m not surprised Labour were going to do make some NHS cuts, but although I can’t guarantee it I dont think they would have made cuts for as many years as Conservatives ended up doing. Sorry can’t write further today.