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Should I pay for boyfriend’s pets if I move in?

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LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:26

I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon (we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50). He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine (he lives in a flat so there’s a few walks for a toilet break) and there’s one before bed, so he has set bedtimes for set shifts and things. It feels quite a lot (we are late 20s, I will add) and we are obviously child-free atm so don’t really want so much structure, I’ve said like can we just relax on that and he says if we do, the dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable with being too hyper or having accidents (if routines aren’t followed) I love his pets and do want them to become mine too and for me to be able to have an equal say in stuff and I said if I can, I’ll of course then contribute to half the costs of them, he says he admits it might be hard to do that as he has had his dog 7 years and knows what’s best for him and would find it hard for me to now come in with a bunch of different ideas and change things up, which is why he says he would never expect me to pay for them. What’s the general opinion on this anyway? Do people split pet costs if they move in with partners that have pets? Like, I have no idea what is even acceptable with that, regardless of this specific situation. I admit I am quite lazy and around full time work I don’t want to be setting my alarm if I’m on a late shift and having to work until the late evening but he will usually still have his bedtime of about midnight and get up at 8! I personally like to relax in bed most the morning until I’m due to get up for work or maybe get up an hour before to do some jobs, I don’t want to be up and out with the dog at 8am, he says I don’t have to be out with the dog but he thinks it’s going to be hard if he is going to bed at say midnight or even 8pm for early shifts (we both do shift work, but are usually on the same, it’s specific shifts hence he has his routines) and then I do completely different and I do agree… is this just a case of us not being compatible? It hurts my heart to think that as I love him loads and he actually makes me really happy and I love his dog and cat, I always wanted pets but my parents never allowed (I moved back in with them to save) so I do genuinely really love his, etc. but I am just a lot less structured and as I have admitted before… lazy lol. So does this then not work? He has said he will stick with his routines with his dog/cat (mainly the dog) around his shifts and I am more than welcome to do what I want that works best for me but that he would obviously like it to align with his the best it can but then I feel I have to do what he does vs what I do because of the dog so not much compromise? My friends and other relatives have had dogs and from my understanding it’s never needed to seem so rigid. I don’t know, feeling a bit deflated and have no idea who to ask on what’s fair

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MzHz · 18/04/2024 08:14

Honestly, don’t move in. He sounds too fixed in his ways and living with him in his place will be a disaster

aim higher, he’s not the one for you @LilacsLife

theduchessofspork · 18/04/2024 08:16

Dogs apart - I agree with PPs you two don’t sound compatible. I’d give it another year before you think about moving in.

Mama2many73 · 18/04/2024 08:21

We had our 'responsibilities' at quite a young age and had to fit in with good routines due to kids work etc (no shift work), although we are both night owls.
Once the kids left we did those lazy mornings, midnight shopping etc because we could. However we finally butter jillet after MANY yrs of considering/researching etc and got a dog.

As im based at home I do most of the dog stuff and we have a general routine worked out, not to the minute but pretty consistent.
If my plans change, or a night out etc, the dog needs ro be factored in first so we know he's sorted. I LOVE him with all my heart and if anyone tried to change how I cared for him I'd be 'goodbye'
BUT I do sometimes wish/miss the spontaneity which we used to have, to have the mornings where you just lie in bed snoozing, when you suddenly decide let's pop out 'now' regardless of time .
Obviously i wont allow our dog suffer by our/others actions but even with ALL the research we did etc I don't think you really understand the reponsibility/routines your dog needs until you are living with one.

If you are not ready for that, that's OK, but he is and uou need to decide whether that's what you want at the moment. Personally I dont think you sound ready to compromise on that yet, so don't. But don't move in and then expect everything to be how you want it.

abracadabra1980 · 18/04/2024 08:22

Are you young OP? Personally he seems way more mature than you, and a responsible pet owner. If you move in, you just have to suck it up - why should his pets' routine (which is psychologically important to them), be disrupted because of you? I don't think you should move in together-and don't even think about having children further down the line if you are lazy and like lie ins, as-it's very unlikely to work until you grow up a bit.

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 08:23

@tabulahrasa to be honest, I would expect an adult dog to let me know if they needed the toilet and I would then take them out.

That's what I do with my dog in the house - sometimes he asks to go out regularly, but in winter he's more than happy to hold it and won't go even if I try and shove him out of the door.

It's only really on MN that I know of dogs who are in such strict routines that can't possibly be deviated from at weekends or in bad weather. That's really not my experience in real life at all.

Toooldforthis36 · 18/04/2024 08:28

What compromises is he prepared to make to accommodate your lifestyle? 🤔🤔🤔

BeakyPIinders · 18/04/2024 08:31

You sound like more work than his pets

Nonewclothes2024 · 18/04/2024 08:34

You don't sound compatible to live together.
He's got his routines. I don't have a dog but understand they need to be walked regularly and that obviously he has a routine that suits his dog.
HIS DOG , therefore I don't think you need to pay towards it.

curious79 · 18/04/2024 08:36

Dogs particularly need routine. My sister’s dog lacks one so shlts everywhere. That aside, while he is clear about his / their need for routine I don’t hear you say he is forcing you to adopt this? If so, what’s the issue?

Macaroni46 · 18/04/2024 08:37

As someone who was married to a controlling and ultimately abusive man, this has red flags all over it. He sounds rigid and controlling; it's his way or nothing. All the compromise is on your part and he's critical of you. He also sounds dull!
If I was you, I'd leave this stick in the mud to it. You're too young to be living like grandparents. Enjoy your life and have fun.

abracadabra1980 · 18/04/2024 08:37

theleafandnotthetree · 18/04/2024 07:45

Christ people make having a pet such hard work. I am in Ireland and have a dog and the majority of people I know, the dog pretty much fits in with the peoples lifestyles and certainly don't interfere with human relationships. Most of those who act like the OP's boyfriend are English! Maybe all the dogs in Ireland are miserable and indusciplinrd wretches, pining for the love and structure they don't have and toileting all over their owners houses but I see no evidence of this.

Have you missed the point that the dog actually lives in a flat. Life can be slightly less structured if you have a garden for them to toilet in.

Phoebefail · 18/04/2024 08:39

His timetabling tendency would get to me. As others have pointed out how will he cope with the unstructured demands of babies and toddlers or teens.
First though you have to create them, will he make special times for sex? Spontaneity is a vital part of many couples lives. An impromptu quickie over the end of the table? is that allowed now?

rainbowstardrops · 18/04/2024 08:40

I don't think you should move in with him either.
Of course you can't waltz in and start changing the dog's routine but your partner seems very set in his ways! He sounds like he's 20 years older than you, not 2!
Don't get me wrong, he sounds very sensible with his pets but do you guys ever go out and have some fun? Do you go on holiday or for weekends away?
You're young and childfree, so I get it that you want to enjoy life before children come along but I don't think your partner is on the same page as you there and from what you've said about him, he sounds patronising and controlling too. Oh and he asked you to move in to help with the bills? What a charmer!

Lavenderflower · 18/04/2024 08:42

It sounds like you're not compatible. I think your post highlight why I wouldn't date someone with a dog.

ZiriForGood · 18/04/2024 08:45

I'd say it is a great time to discuss or even try living together now. Fail quickly and move on.
Don't waste time just dating for more years, it wouldn't help.

It sounds it is tricky for you to find time together, and your napping isn't worse than his going to bed at 8 pm. If you want to give it a try, you can focus on the time you do have together, to make sure you actually use it well, and see whether it works.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/04/2024 08:50

I think this is about you not him. I don’t see him doing anything wrong except looking after his animals.

Having animals is a bit like having children, you are tied to them and they need routine.

I honestly think you’re the problem.

Shayisgreat · 18/04/2024 08:51

Lillers · 18/04/2024 07:06

OP, on the one hand it’s frustrating to read your messages because it does feel like quite a “young” attitude to an adult relationship. On the other hand, I will give you kudos for really thinking about this before jumping in.

You’ve fixated on the pets, but they are symptomatic of what I think your deeper concerns are: you’re worried that this man doesn’t love you enough to make room for you in his life. You’ve recognised that he’s happy to have you around, but there’s no real push to find a way to make your lives work as a partnership. And that’s not a criticism of either of you: he has a routine and lifestyle that works for him, but he needs to be honest with you about whether he really wants to build a new life with you or if he’s just (ironically) going with the flow in the relationship and hoping you’ll adapt to his life.

For this reason, you need to have a real, adult conversation about your relationship. Do you have the same goals and desires? Do you want to work in partnership to build your lives together? If yes, then you can absolutely fine ways to make your routines work together. If not, it means reviewing whether this relationship works for you both long term. Being honest when you love someone is hard because of the fear of losing them, but if you’re not honest, you’ll never really have them in the first place.

I think the middle section here articulates my thoughts on this.

It doesn't feel right to you for a reason. I don't think you are overthinking, I think it is dawning in you that this relationship may not meet your needs. Trust that.

Honestly, I love a routine and I'm much more rigid than my DH and I do look sideways at him when he decides to have a nap in the middle of the day. However, I felt claustrophobic when reading about the expectations around routine for you if you move in. I imagine the sleep schedule will only be the start of it and then other things will creep in to.

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 08:58

Have you missed the point that the dog actually lives in a flat. Life can be slightly less structured if you have a garden for them to toilet in.

There’s a difference between general structure and a routine that's so rigid it needs daily alarms and can't possibly be deviated from by half an hour occasionally.

I also don't really buy the idea that dogs in flats need more of a strict routine than dogs in houses - yes, it's a bit more effort to take them for a wee but their needs are otherwise no different to dogs with garden access.

Our dog has never had a routine and honestly I think he's happier for it. Dogs who expect the same thing at the same time every single day are a pain in the arse in my experience.

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 08:59

Lavenderflower · 18/04/2024 08:42

It sounds like you're not compatible. I think your post highlight why I wouldn't date someone with a dog.

I don't know a single dog owner who does what OP'a boyfriend does.

theleafandnotthetree · 18/04/2024 09:07

The amount of people saying 'the dog comes first, as it should be' as if this were some kind of accepted wisdom....I have huge respect for animals, am a responsible owner to my own dog but to my mind, human relationships come first. So in this scenario, the boyfriend surely should be expected to be a bit more flexible and meet the OP somewhere in the middle. It is actually pretty bizarre that people think that he should not budge an inch in service of a dog. A dog. Forget the OP, I don't know anyone who would put up with that nonsense. Meanwhile, our over consumption of meat from other kinds of animals produced in horrific conditions contributes to climate chaos and biodiversity loss and causes untold suffering. It's a topsy-turvy world 🙄

PerfectTravelTote · 18/04/2024 09:10

They're always going to be his pets regardless of who pays their bills. You'll have to just accept that.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 18/04/2024 09:13

Ok, let's put the pet thing to one side at the moment. Let's assume he's taking full responsibility there and you won't have to do anything.

What benefit will you see from moving in with him? Surely you're shifts aren't going to change between now and then, so it's no different except you're in the same house while he sleeps and you don't?

fieldsofbutterflies · 18/04/2024 09:16

The more I think about it, the more I think he's not really that bothered about the relationship.

Most people would be happy to adapt their dogs' routine to spend more time with a new partner, or would open to making things a bit less structured to allow for a lie in or a late night occasionally.

The fact that he's very much "take it or leave it" means he's probably not arsed, to be honest.

Redcarsontv · 18/04/2024 09:19

can you move in for say a month whilst keeping your original home?

then you can see what it’s like.

a dog with a garden must be extremely hard and I can understand the need for a strict routine. At our house one pops down and dog goes out to garden for a wee. Comes back in. DH in this time makes the tea and comes back to bed. That’s not going to be happening for you.

Waltwaky · 18/04/2024 09:21

Redcarsontv · 18/04/2024 09:19

can you move in for say a month whilst keeping your original home?

then you can see what it’s like.

a dog with a garden must be extremely hard and I can understand the need for a strict routine. At our house one pops down and dog goes out to garden for a wee. Comes back in. DH in this time makes the tea and comes back to bed. That’s not going to be happening for you.

Op lives with her parents and is essentially at her bfs full time... That's why pp think he was mentioning more of a financial contribution rather than asking her to move in

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