To nominate the principle authors of the CASS review for this..

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“Advocates of evidence based medicine have criticised the adoption of interventions evaluated by using only observational data. We think that everyone might benefit if the most radical protagonists of evidence based medicine organised and participated in a double blind, randomised, placebo controlled, crossover trial of the parachute.”

https://www.bmj.com/content/327/7429/1459.short?fbclid=IwAR0hTt57o-yFS61aJE-IGCpKSPaDs--rdrPlbiby_wBCF1czpAWDaCcAEcM_aem_ATiWMtvZxiSzw8pj9CX271gyDByuMHTOKwQskBcCXx9aZOj1IPusHJ_z79olcRiFlhE

That doesn’t mean we should let people spend a lifetime of dysphoria, so uncomfortable with their sex they can’t function socially, psychologically or have intimate relationships.

But does transition allow people to do those things? Is there evidence that people who transition do better socially? That they have better mental health? That they can have intimate relationships? Is the 'cure' actually a cure in reality?

Missed this thread yesterday. Wow.

If gender ideologists are so certain they’re right, why are you all so terrified of generating high quality research evidence?

I just wanted to highlight this excellent point by a pp. And why are gender ideologists not raging that researchers are producing such low quality research if they are so certain they are right? They've chosen to go after the people pointing out that the research into such areas is shite rather than asking the researchers why they're not doing a better job in proving it either way.

(Edited as bold fail)

I call Billy Bullshitter.

This OP can't write 'FUCK' on a wall.

But does transition allow people to do those things? Is there evidence that people who transition do better socially? That they have better mental health? That they can have intimate relationships? Is the 'cure' actually a cure in reality?

It’s not a ‘cure’ it’s been described by some as palliative. There’s evidence it can reduce GD and improve key aspects of life for some people yes. There’s research evidence as well as some high profile trans/sexual people in relationships including having their own families.

I agree the exact percentages aren’t known. It’s not a magic cure. It’s clearly a difficult road to go down. But for some it seems to be better than the alternative.

Well we know now where that cropped highlighted misleading screenshot came from. Caraballo posted it and all the TRAs have copied it, so it’s everywhere now.

Oh this A Caraballo? (Watch for 2 mins to see the painful realisation that they are getting owned by they's own inflammatory SM posts)

Yes, that very one.

Why do you hate trans kids so much that you are prepared to experiment on them? Surely they deserve evidence based care that does not result in lifelong physical damage?.

Yes.

Offer care. Offer counselling. Find out why they hate their own body so much that they think its the 'wrong one'.

Don't Offer drugs that cause irreparable damage to children. Binders that harm. Lop bits off. That doesn't solve underlying mental health issues.

It’s really astounding, isn’t it?

You’d think TRAs would be the ones shouting loudest about the need to have the best possible evidence to ensure children with gender dysphoria get the most appropriate treatment.

Instead what we get is a lot of angry deflection to avoid explaining why this movement is so fixated on preventing puberty at any cost.

Parachutes were effectively tested en masse by the military in WWII and proved very effective, and have proved effective ever since.

They are in no way comparable to a medical drug. I don’t understand your point.

OP doesn't hate trans kids. But they also don't even entertain the possibility that people who choose hormones and surgery will enjoy better medical outcomes if they defer the process until their bodies have completely matured.

If this is about passing, it shows a bigoted attitude to non-passing trans people (and indeed extremely non-gender conforming people generally), by prioritising superficial social acceptability over physical health.

Being trans is not a real and legitimate thing. It is a label which covers at least three separate conditions:

1. Gender dysphoria. This is a real, though rare, psychiatric disorder which does not need hormonal treatment.
2. Autogynaephilia. This is a male sexual fetish which does not need hormonal treatment.
3. Transitional puberty confusion. This is a normal response to physical and emotional changes through puberty. Frequent comorbidities include autism, other neurodivergence, anxiety and depression. This usually resolves by adulthood unless treated with medical and/or surgical interventions. Hormonal treatment merely prolongs the confusion.

So why did you spend so much of this thread citing a document that wasn't the Cass Report and that was dishonestly cropped?

I just wanted to leave this here, to clarify the debate about what evidence was and was not taken into account in forming conclusions and recommendations in Cass’s final report.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1781730844798820808.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHSjl17Xf24zaf8VJ6VAgrc33C5jxfbj2iiDb7elAxhpeZYiWizi5Z2kgVw_aem_Aaquu8DB2gpIAONhQvZJ67O5S1JCTQAXHaJ96pgniuXS_1-q5ywVPKUKOukDoqrBXO4

I apologise for sharing that. In the heat of this debate I misunderstood its origins and I should have done more due diligence.

Being trans is not a real and legitimate thing

Eek. I think it’s important to leave this here.

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A thread by a he/him so a believer of the ideology with absolutely no Information in his bio about what qualifications he has which means we should listen to him over a qualified doctor with decades of experience plus a university team following tried & tested methodology of evaluating the quality of research

yeah I’m totally convinced

1. There are 51 other studies which said the exact opposite 2. This isn't a gold standard trial because in the nature of things it's impossible [you know if you're going through puberty or not] 3. Funny how wonderful something is that confirms all your prejudices. 🙄

this isn’t about the identity of the person who wrote the thread , it’s just accurate information. You can verify it yourself if you aren’t convinced and care to inform yourself.

'I'll just leave this here' is one of the annoyingly twee phrases imaginable.

here is an article dealing with the misinformation being spread by TRA about Cass by a health & science journalist

https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/fact-checking-critics-of-the-cass

(as opposed to an Internet random)

Feel free to leave it anywhere and everywhere. The sooner people wake up and realise this, the better for everyone, especially teens going through transitional gender confusion during puberty.

I just wanted to leave this here, to clarify the debate about what evidence was and was not taken into account in forming conclusions and recommendations in Cass’s final report.

It doesn't "clarify" anything. Read the report, all this is dealt with. You can follow the links in Colin Wright's excellent piece linked by @Theeyeballsinthesky