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Would we get away with this at the hotel?

263 replies

HOTD7383 · 12/04/2024 14:02

We are going to Lapland UK in November, it’s 1-2 hours away and we’ve got a really early entry time so we are staying near there the night before - the Legoland hotel as it’s got more child friendly facilities (soft play, a pool, crazy golf, a sensory area) and my DD (8) struggles with a normal hotel with nothing to do.

DD has autism and needs a lot of help and support therefore there is 3 of us adults going as her carers. The family rooms have 4 beds in them, therefore enough sleeping space for everyone, however the rule limits it to 2 adults only per room (despite allowing 3 children per room so it’s not for lack of space). This would mean booking 2 rooms at nearly £150 each, and £300 just for one night is extortionate (all nearby hotels are similar priced due to taking advantage of people staying there for the same purpose as us).

Would we get away with just 2 adults checking in and then us letting the 3rd adult into the room a little while later? Surely people are walking in and out of the hotel and their rooms all of the time and they don’t check where every single one of them are going if they’ve already got their hotel card etc?

OP posts:
Walkthelakes · 12/04/2024 22:19

I know that some people on here seem to find this shocking but we are a family of 6 and regularly book hotel rooms for 5. It’s never been a problem. Some of us check in then go out and give the key cards to others. It’s never been a problem and tbh the staff don’t really give a shit.

Tulipblank · 12/04/2024 22:24

Watercoloursky · 12/04/2024 14:05

If there was a fire, the hotel staff wouldn't know that they had to account for your extra person...

Hmmbecause everyone who checks into a hotel is there all the time....

Critical thinking???

Hihihello193 · 12/04/2024 22:27

I wouldn't worry. One adult can check in on their own for the group, pick up your keycards etc. The rest of your party can come in after that?
I used to go on tour a lot with my band, the money was shite and we always slept 4 adults in a double bed. (!?) A couple of times we had a support band travelling with us, we snuck 9 people into a double room.
I know its not right but I dont feel bad about it, we were young and exhausted and there to sleep. Nobody cared. Nobody ever checked numbers of people coming in and out, in a double room, for fire regulations etc.
Btw Im a 'proper' adult now! And I do have an autistic child myself, so completely agree that you should do whatever is best for their needs. If they need 3 carers then that need may extend to their bedtime routine and a new environment - so you will know best if you think you should be together, not split across different rooms.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 12/04/2024 22:42

Mumsnet please don’t ever change! It’s the only place in the world where an extra adult in a hotel room will end in the sure death or incarceration of all the occupants.

I’ve missed the Stasi curtain twitching brigade since the Covid madness ended…glad you’re still around sniff 😢

BabyEmber · 12/04/2024 22:47

Only thing it say is the bunk beds at legoland aren't full sized beds so I hope you aren't tall!

Skyisbluegrassisgreen · 12/04/2024 22:51

Watercoloursky · 12/04/2024 14:05

If there was a fire, the hotel staff wouldn't know that they had to account for your extra person...

So they can stick a note on their door if there’s a fire…. Or an alien invasion… 🙄

Lupuswarriors · 13/04/2024 01:20

HOTD7383 · 12/04/2024 14:16

That’s a really good idea actually, thank you

They arnt stupid.....and they definitely would know that was a planned excuse. Pretty sure when I checked in they made sure to check everyone at the desk on the booking and we had another deposit to pay. They don't release the 30.00 deposit until check out incase they need to deduct from it

Noyesnoyes · 13/04/2024 01:37

Watercoloursky · 12/04/2024 14:05

If there was a fire, the hotel staff wouldn't know that they had to account for your extra person...

What are the actual chances of

  1. A fire
  2. The adult in question being trapped
  3. No one on the OPs party being able to say someone was trapped

You'll be fine OP, just do it.

Noyesnoyes · 13/04/2024 01:45

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 12/04/2024 14:30

@RancidRuby it is essentially no different to paying for eg a small coffee and actually picking up a large one. You have knowingly taken a good/service that is more than you've paid for. So my understanding is it is illegal.

They'll have the TAs scaling the outside of the property to catch them I'm sure GrinGrinGrin

Noyesnoyes · 13/04/2024 01:56

Magnastorm · 12/04/2024 19:17

You'll probably get away with it, just with 1 adult having an uncomfortable night.

I personally would never do it though, due to being an honest, decent person.

🥇

Itwasafterallallaboutme · 13/04/2024 02:07

As others have said, ring the hotel and say you need the third adult to share that room as they are your child's main carer, and that your DC would be very upset not to have them there.

Bournetilly · 13/04/2024 02:16

It’s absolutely fine and they will never know. I can’t believe some of the responses making out like you are a criminal. Legoland is owned by Merlin, they are hardly going to go out of business because you booked 1 hotel room instead of 2.

Goatinthegarden · 13/04/2024 03:06

They say ‘two adults and two children’ because that’s what they’re suggesting is within the limits of a comfortable stay for you and the people staying in adjacent rooms.

You won’t be able to complain and say, ‘the room felt too small and Granny has a crick in her neck from sleeping in a tiny bunk bed’ because they have told you, the beds are for your small children, not an adult.

They also need to put a limit on so they can control noise and damage. If they say ‘two adults and two children’ they can easily get rid of any guests that are a nuisance if they have ‘broken the rules’.

There probably is legislation for how many people a business can squeeze into a room for a night’s stay, but having stayed in hostels in my late teens, I doubt you’re anywhere near to exceeding that.

If you’re happy having three adults and a child in that space, come in quietly for the night, then leave the next day, no one will care a jot.

BarrelOfOtters · 13/04/2024 06:50

Goatinthegarden · 13/04/2024 03:06

They say ‘two adults and two children’ because that’s what they’re suggesting is within the limits of a comfortable stay for you and the people staying in adjacent rooms.

You won’t be able to complain and say, ‘the room felt too small and Granny has a crick in her neck from sleeping in a tiny bunk bed’ because they have told you, the beds are for your small children, not an adult.

They also need to put a limit on so they can control noise and damage. If they say ‘two adults and two children’ they can easily get rid of any guests that are a nuisance if they have ‘broken the rules’.

There probably is legislation for how many people a business can squeeze into a room for a night’s stay, but having stayed in hostels in my late teens, I doubt you’re anywhere near to exceeding that.

If you’re happy having three adults and a child in that space, come in quietly for the night, then leave the next day, no one will care a jot.

No they don’t…it’s all about maximum profit for the price point and type of visitors.

CagneyAndLazy · 13/04/2024 07:04

HOTD7383 · 12/04/2024 20:10

😂😂😂

The room fits 4 people so I’m paying for the room for the exact amount of people, so what are we stealing exactly? 😂 get a grip.

It's the same as child fares on the train or bus.

There's still the same number of people taking the same number of seats, whether adults are using the correct tickets or child ones.

PrattleTime · 13/04/2024 08:39

Magnastorm · 12/04/2024 19:17

You'll probably get away with it, just with 1 adult having an uncomfortable night.

I personally would never do it though, due to being an honest, decent person.

A quick peep back at your previous posts reveals otherwise. Lots of attacking and sniping at posters and rude to people. Lots of HTH posts when you can't possibly think it helps.

All of which is fine. Be who you are.

But to parade yourself as 'decent' is in fact dishonest in itself.

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 08:45

Georgesbar24 · 12/04/2024 14:05

This is mumsnet so everyone will be along to tell you how outrageously unethical this is shortly. But realistically Legoland costs a fortune for everything so I can see why you’re trying to save. I think you need to work out what your back up plan would be eg do you have means get to a cheaper hotel a little distance away if you were forced to book one?

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?
Great example to set children. But you can excuse it with the 'the pearl-clutchers on MN won't like it, but if you don't get caught it's ok..' excuse.
Which is all very well until somone else breaks a petty rule and it directly impacts those who usually break such rules. Then they hate the rule breakers.

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 08:51

Ethically I don't see an issue, but practically it could be an issue. I was asked to leave a hotel in similar circumstances.
I was staying in one hotel, my friends had a large multi bed room in another hotel nearby. I went over in the evening to get ready with them, a member of the hotel staff came and knocked the door and said we all had to leave as the room was only booked for X adults. We explained that we weren't all staying (we were very obviously doing hair and makeup to go out) and they were quite rude about it but basically said I had to leave by 9pm or we all had to leave and they'd cancel the booking altogether.

LittleBrenda · 13/04/2024 09:02

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 08:51

Ethically I don't see an issue, but practically it could be an issue. I was asked to leave a hotel in similar circumstances.
I was staying in one hotel, my friends had a large multi bed room in another hotel nearby. I went over in the evening to get ready with them, a member of the hotel staff came and knocked the door and said we all had to leave as the room was only booked for X adults. We explained that we weren't all staying (we were very obviously doing hair and makeup to go out) and they were quite rude about it but basically said I had to leave by 9pm or we all had to leave and they'd cancel the booking altogether.

Not the same situation at all though.

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 09:08

LittleBrenda · 13/04/2024 09:02

Not the same situation at all though.

The hotel thought it was the same - the room slept 4, it was a family room designed for 2 adults and 2 children. There were 3 adults in the room and the hotel were going to kick us out when they thought we were all staying there.

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:11

catscalledbeanz · 12/04/2024 14:18

Just do it op. Literally a victimless "crime". And fire risk my eye! How many people book a room in a city with the hopes of pulling that night? It's standard practice on works dos for sleeze bags in city offices.

Oh of course! If a crime is deemed victimless, then it's perfectly acceptable to break the law.
What a disgusting attitude.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 09:15

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 09:08

The hotel thought it was the same - the room slept 4, it was a family room designed for 2 adults and 2 children. There were 3 adults in the room and the hotel were going to kick us out when they thought we were all staying there.

I think they were probably concerned about it developing into a potentially large group of adults having a party.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 09:18

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?

Definitely. I’m pretty sure that most of humankind is the same in this respect.

TargetPractice11 · 13/04/2024 09:43

@VestibuleVirgin

"Crime"?

Come on now.

IncognitoMam · 13/04/2024 09:44

Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 12/04/2024 14:12

I wouldn't think twice about this. Book two children and two adults.

That's what I would do

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