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Boring marriage but easier life

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LookingOutMyWindow · 11/04/2024 11:17

I’m in a boring marriage- we are more friends than a couple.
My husband is a nice guy, good dad but he can be grumpy and works away a lot so the juggle of childcare / my work falls to me.
we plod along but I don’t fancy him anymore (been together 20years) I don’t really have a sex drive so I’m not bothered if we don’t have sex.

If I divorced we would have to sell the house because I can not afford it on my own so then me and kids would be in a small rented place, I would have my children half the time and I’d basically struggle for money.
surely I’m not the only one who stays in a marriage so life isn’t a struggle?

I see all the time people saying ‘just leave, it will be fine’
but I literally wouldn’t be able to pay mortgage, bills and have the lifestyle we have now.
i don’t understand how women do it when they are only working part time as the children are still young / no childcare

aibu to think it’s just easier to be meh about marriage but have an easier life

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VampireWeekday · 11/04/2024 19:12

I think that it's not right to upend your children's life just because the marriage is a bit dull.

SabreIsMyFave · 11/04/2024 19:12

@Anonymouseky · Today 12:49

This thread confirms what I already knew: a lot of women stay in unhappy marriages as they feel financially trapped. I find that incredibly sad. You get one life (as far as we know).

Many women stay in a marriage that is not all fireworks, great sex, and Hollywood romance. And they are not always 'unhappy marriages.' Many women get on well with their husbands even though the spark has gone, and stay, because they are happy to do that. AND it's a better alternative to leaving and being alone/struggling financially.

As some posters have said, the LTB posters are utterly clueless as to how hard it is to survive alone when you have very little income yourself (as many married women do, as many have gone part time, or finished work to raise kids.)

For many married women, staying with their husband - even if they're just friends, and don't shag anymore, and the first flush of romance has long gone; is still preferable to being alone, stony broke, wondering how you're going to pay the gas and electric bills, and rent etc, and having to work like a dog, and beg for extra hours at work to put food on the table. Along with waking up alone, going to bed alone, eating alone - and never being in a couple, on every day trip, holiday, and social event. (And often Christmas and New Year's Eve.)

There have been a couple of times many years back, when I wished DH would fuck off to the far side of fuck, and like many other couples, our marriage DID have issues for several years - pretty much down to his overspending, and meanness with money. A couple of times I felt like I did want to leave, and would have if I'd have had a million pounds in the bank. I worked part time and didn't earn much, and was trapped financially and couldn't afford to live alone with 2 young children. So I stuck it out. I'm glad I did! (Now!)

Our 'bad patch' lasted around 3-4 years. But we worked though it. That's what people do. You don't just pack up your suitcases, and fuck off and leave at the first sign of the marriage not being like a Hollywood romance FFS!

We have been together now, for around 30 years (and are both in our early 50s,) our kids (2 daughters in their mid 20s,) left home a few years ago, and we are the best/happiest we've ever been and are still attracted to each other. Have been pretty happy and content for the vast majority of the past 16-17 ish years. And were fine for the first 9-10 or so. (As I said, it was just for a 3-4 year 'rough patch' in between, that we struggled as a couple...)

We are financially secure/comfortable too, and enjoy a nice lifestyle, lovely holidays, luxuries when we want them, and no financial struggles. I could not live this life if I wasn't with him. He is funny and kind, and we have some great times together. And his 'meanness with money' didn't last too long. It was just his immaturity when he was a lot younger.

I love being married, and am glad I stayed. I have seen many a woman split up from her DH (a few left him, a few had him leave her,) and now they are middle-aged and single and alone, and don't have pot to piss in. They're struggling to make ends meet, they're dreading the bills coming in, and they fight like cat and dog with other women at work (for the shifts at their workplace) for extra money.

They're quite lonely, and they have no holidays, no social life, no luxuries, nothing. Because apart from the very lucky few, most people can't live on one salary. And especially women, as they are often paid less than men! Life is so much better and much easier in a couple. (IMO and IME.)

IMO, unless a marriage is a constant stream of abuse, and cheating, and you are kept in penury indefinitely, many women are sensible to stick it our during the bad bits, because it's not all bad bits, you do have a giggle and some good times too, and the bad bits/bad patches in the marriage don't last.

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AcrossthePond55 · 11/04/2024 19:16

@LookingOutMyWindow

Personally, I'd see being the 'primary' parent in exchange for his working away to be a fair trade off. I'd have the house to myself, it'd be 'my house, my rules, my decisions' when he was gone.

My own DH (whom I love dearly) worked away for 2 years when our 2 DC were small, he was gone 4 days a week. TBH it was easier although sometimes I was knackered at the end of the day. Everything was done to my schedule, I was 'Queen of the Castle' when it came to the DC, and DH respected that when he was home. I could cook a full meal or what the UK I think refers to as a 'nursery tea' as I chose. Less laundry, less cleaning, etc. When we moved to where DH was working, it was a big adjustment for both DH and I!

In your place I think if we rubbed along well, no sexual demands were made on me, and he was gone some of the time I probably would stay. But one thing to think, how satisfied is your DH with the 'status quo'? The one thing I always had had was financial independence. If DH had come to me at any time and said he wanted a divorce I was making enough money to say "Fine, don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya".

gettingbackonit23 · 11/04/2024 19:19

I guess the problem is that the DH might not be that happy with a “just friends” marriage and may meet someone else at some point and leave. It happens not infrequently. So maybe focus on maximising earning potential in case it does fall apart a few years down the line. It’s never good to be financially dependent on someone else.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 11/04/2024 19:31

I thought you were going to say you were 60+ or something (not that being over 60 means you automatically don't want sex or romance). I'm in my 40s and that sounds like my idea of hell. BUT, if you and he are both happily plodding along like housemates, then why not?

Mummysgogetter · 11/04/2024 20:00

I have had a lot of long-term relationships and in my opinion, a strong friendship is the most important ingredient to a successful marriage. Attraction ebbs and flows and depends on so many different factors. I think it’s scary to encourage a family to split apart because of “boredom” or “lack of attraction”. What is the common saying? Something like feelings come and go, love is a verb - the grass is always greener on the other side. As long as there is respect and friendship then OP is modelling a solid relationship foundation for her kids.

Anonymouseky · 11/04/2024 20:15

SabreIsMyFave · 11/04/2024 19:12

@Anonymouseky · Today 12:49

This thread confirms what I already knew: a lot of women stay in unhappy marriages as they feel financially trapped. I find that incredibly sad. You get one life (as far as we know).

Many women stay in a marriage that is not all fireworks, great sex, and Hollywood romance. And they are not always 'unhappy marriages.' Many women get on well with their husbands even though the spark has gone, and stay, because they are happy to do that. AND it's a better alternative to leaving and being alone/struggling financially.

As some posters have said, the LTB posters are utterly clueless as to how hard it is to survive alone when you have very little income yourself (as many married women do, as many have gone part time, or finished work to raise kids.)

For many married women, staying with their husband - even if they're just friends, and don't shag anymore, and the first flush of romance has long gone; is still preferable to being alone, stony broke, wondering how you're going to pay the gas and electric bills, and rent etc, and having to work like a dog, and beg for extra hours at work to put food on the table. Along with waking up alone, going to bed alone, eating alone - and never being in a couple, on every day trip, holiday, and social event. (And often Christmas and New Year's Eve.)

There have been a couple of times many years back, when I wished DH would fuck off to the far side of fuck, and like many other couples, our marriage DID have issues for several years - pretty much down to his overspending, and meanness with money. A couple of times I felt like I did want to leave, and would have if I'd have had a million pounds in the bank. I worked part time and didn't earn much, and was trapped financially and couldn't afford to live alone with 2 young children. So I stuck it out. I'm glad I did! (Now!)

Our 'bad patch' lasted around 3-4 years. But we worked though it. That's what people do. You don't just pack up your suitcases, and fuck off and leave at the first sign of the marriage not being like a Hollywood romance FFS!

We have been together now, for around 30 years (and are both in our early 50s,) our kids (2 daughters in their mid 20s,) left home a few years ago, and we are the best/happiest we've ever been and are still attracted to each other. Have been pretty happy and content for the vast majority of the past 16-17 ish years. And were fine for the first 9-10 or so. (As I said, it was just for a 3-4 year 'rough patch' in between, that we struggled as a couple...)

We are financially secure/comfortable too, and enjoy a nice lifestyle, lovely holidays, luxuries when we want them, and no financial struggles. I could not live this life if I wasn't with him. He is funny and kind, and we have some great times together. And his 'meanness with money' didn't last too long. It was just his immaturity when he was a lot younger.

I love being married, and am glad I stayed. I have seen many a woman split up from her DH (a few left him, a few had him leave her,) and now they are middle-aged and single and alone, and don't have pot to piss in. They're struggling to make ends meet, they're dreading the bills coming in, and they fight like cat and dog with other women at work (for the shifts at their workplace) for extra money.

They're quite lonely, and they have no holidays, no social life, no luxuries, nothing. Because apart from the very lucky few, most people can't live on one salary. And especially women, as they are often paid less than men! Life is so much better and much easier in a couple. (IMO and IME.)

IMO, unless a marriage is a constant stream of abuse, and cheating, and you are kept in penury indefinitely, many women are sensible to stick it our during the bad bits, because it's not all bad bits, you do have a giggle and some good times too, and the bad bits/bad patches in the marriage don't last.

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Edited

I’m glad it worked out for you, I genuinely am. I’m afraid it doesn’t always come good for those who stay though. I know several women (now in their 60s) who have expressed deep regret for staying and wish they had been brave enough to take the leap. They feel they have lived a half life and wasted their time. They now feel there is no time to forge their own way and their children have left home and they are left to spend an awful lot of time with their spouse whose every move and breath irritates them. I know others who did leave (or were left) and they love their freedom and not having to tread on eggshells in their own home. Their home (albeit smaller) is a sanctuary and a comfortable and happy house.

In my own experience, I did not leave at the first sign of trouble. We (or at least I did) tried continuously to make compromises. This is a two way thing though and it breeds resentment when one person is making all the sacrifices. Not one single person on this thread can see into any one else’s marriage and categorically state what they should or shouldn’t do because no one really knows what it’s like to live anyone else’s reality. We all value different things.

I may never be rich, but we plod on pretty well most of the time because I make sacrifices. I won’t say it’s always easy, but I work hard and I’m so proud of the life I have built for me and my children. It took me a lot of bravery to walk away but I was determined that my children would not be in that house of negativity 7 days a week, watching their mum slowly worn down. I deserved better and so did my children. He’s happier now too. He never coped well with responsibility. In our situation it was absolutely the right decision. I feel for anyone who gets to their twilight years having regretted their decision either way.

Sunnytwobridges · 11/04/2024 21:34

I would hate that someone was staying with me just because they didn't want to be alone or because they didn't want to struggle financially. I actually had an ex that did that, and when I found out I felt used, deceived, and was angry he had wasted my time.

But if you are both on the same page and are happy living as friends then I don't see a problem with it. But thats only if your DH is on board with it too.

Winter2020 · 11/04/2024 21:53

Hi OP,

Imagine your husband comes home and says to you "Window I have met someone when I have been working away. Nothing physical has happened but we have fallen for each other. I am going to move in with her and she wants to meet the children".

How do you feel? Angry? Upset ? Jealous? Relieved? Delighted? Frightened?

Cristall · 12/04/2024 09:09

gettingbackonit23 · 11/04/2024 15:00

I’m a strong believer that when you’ve made your bed you should lie in it. I picked my partner, I had kids with him, now I have to put up with him for the benefit of those kids. It’s unfair to make the kids suffer because I decide I’ve made a mistake in my choice of partner.

It’s a myth that kids always suffer. The majority turn out absolutely fine - plenty of doctors, lawyers, bankers with divorced parents. Those who have parents who stayed together just for the children usually say they wish they’d split and they don’t thank them for it. It also models an unhealthy relationship model. I was delighted when my mum left my dad and the worst thing I could imagine was them getting back together. He was quite abusive though.
If you decide to stay, fine, but it’s not because it’s best for the kids. It’s usually because the parent is scared of being single.

Actually I would love to be single but unfortunately I need his money to live on! I’m disabled and unable to earn enough to support myself and DC. Not eligible for benefits. So here we are.

For his part, I think he sticks around for DC. He earns most of the money and could easily leave, but I’d get majority custody, so he won’t. I think he’ll leave when DC are grown up though.

LemonFawn · 13/04/2024 08:53

sounds horrible @Cristall for everyone including the children

Flozle · 14/04/2024 08:59

Cristall · 11/04/2024 12:34

I’m a strong believer that when you’ve made your bed you should lie in it. I picked my partner, I had kids with him, now I have to put up with him for the benefit of those kids. It’s unfair to make the kids suffer because I decide I’ve made a mistake in my choice of partner.

That's the attitude that forced so many women to stay in abusive relationships because it was "just a domestic".

Wish44 · 14/04/2024 09:16

Beezknees · 11/04/2024 15:22

50% of marriages end in divorce. Do you really think 50% of children are scarred by it? Obviously divorce can be traumatising depending on the situation, but as a child of divorced parents I'm fine with it, as are all my friends who have divorced parents.

That is not what is being suggested. The research collects huge amounts of data from children from divorced parents and children from parents not divorced and looks at different outcomes like education success, prevalence of depression etc and the research clearly shows that the children of non divorced parents , as a group, have better outcomes. That doesn’t mean that there are not individuals from divorced couples who don’t do well or vice verse…. But the data shows clear trends

HollyJenni · 24/10/2024 21:51

So I’m 38, partner is 50. We split 3 weeks ago.
currently sharing the house as he works away 4 days a week most weeks.
I’ve looked at two properties and the first one I didn’t get sadly.
our daughter is coping ok with the split. She does get upset from time to time.
The reason I wanted the split was because I felt like I had the life drained out of me, he never planned anything for us to do, weekends were a food shop and that’s it. I was left to do all the housework, homework, childcare etc and go to work.
we don’t have many shared interests etc and I think we had grown apart. Life is too short to be unhappy

MontanaPink · 24/10/2024 22:04

Of my 4 close friends, all are now in marriages of convenience. No intimacy, sleep separately, no enjoyment in spending time together. Together for the kids and the financial ties/reasons.

I’m separted (exH’s choice). Kids were early teens when we split. I upped my hours to full time, was exhausted and overwhelmed for a few years but have recently started, somehow to feel like I’m coping. Lovely new (nearly 4 years ‘new’) relationship, and happy.

Given the choice, I’d have chosen my marriage but in retrospect I am glad exH made the decision to leave. It shattered me at the time and adjusting took time and effort but he made the right decision for both of us.

Sorry, possibly not helpful advise! I guess what I’m saying is that if you do take a leap of faith, things will eventually settle down and you'll learn to manage and be happy.

Usedtobeslummy · 24/10/2024 23:24

Bucking the trend here I left my ex, we have 2 small children. It is definitely hard. The financial burden is high and I am constantly chasing more money at work.

But I am far happier. There was no abuse but on several critical points my ex was sub par and i had to bite my tongue or we'd argue.

He also would not have tolerated a sexless marriage. That mightve helped us stay together but wasn't on the table.

I've got lots of friends, do a lot with the kiss, feel fulfilled. Tired but fulfilled.

For me it's hard but worth it.

Codlingmoths · 24/10/2024 23:32

gettingbackonit23 · 11/04/2024 19:19

I guess the problem is that the DH might not be that happy with a “just friends” marriage and may meet someone else at some point and leave. It happens not infrequently. So maybe focus on maximising earning potential in case it does fall apart a few years down the line. It’s never good to be financially dependent on someone else.

This.

PassingStranger · 25/10/2024 13:44

That's the reason there is so much demand on social housing now.
More and more splitting up and everyone then needs 2 homes instead of one.
Unless your rich it's very difficult to live as one and support yourself. Rents sky high etc.

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