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AIBU to not be happy with my MIL as a neighbour or to have weekly contact with her?...

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Ewg9 · 10/04/2024 23:25

Just wondering other people’s views, and if I'm just on some post pregnancy hormone frenzy but we live next to my MIL, we have done for a year now in a house she owns (we pay the bills but pay no rent). I now have a five month old and since his birth I've really been struggling with her. I'll say that she was always the matriarch, twice divorced professional lady with her own business with two devoted sons. Since the birth, the dynamic between us has changed. She irritated me early on by coming over the last evening of husbands paternity leave to hangout with us and baby and I felt this was encroaching on our time as a new family. Since then she has interfered, with her opinions (I know she is entitled to say what she wants) and coming across on occasion critical and undermining our/my ability to care for the baby (I have read that this can be really normal unfortunately). My husband obviously finds her a support and i always try to remember this but i haven't found her supportive or helpful especially since baby arrived. she made a bad joke in the early weeks how she wouldn't help with house work and she pays someone to do hers and doesn't do ironing but that she'd hold the baby whilst i did it. She had the nerve awhile ago to say to my face how I’d had a good labour and that we have a good baby and that we were having an easy time. I snapped back and catalogued the difficulties we had had (yes the baby hasn't been colicky but there have been other difficulties like all first time parents might experience. Breastfeeding was a nightmare for months due to jaundice, a tongue tie and then thrush so the first 3/4 months of feeding were terrible. Anyway, MIL sees the baby once a week as she has hosted us for Sunday lunch since baby arrived and I may seem ungrateful, but I don't like seeing her every week and if anything, would prefer to reduce the contact. If she could, she would definitely be coming round more she is only next door after all. Anyway, she has recently said to husband, that she doesn't want to cook Sunday dinner anymore as she's not getting the time with the baby because she's busy cooking. We usually arrive and eat and spend a couple/ a few hours with her afterwards for her to have cuddle time. I’m trying to tell myself to appreciate what she has done, and that she lives on her own and that it’s good for hubby and for baby and that I can retreat and keep out of the way more as baby becomes more independent and that somethings just change.

but I am posting this as I don't know where to turn, I feel suffocated living next to her, and I just want space and time to be a new family. I feel the same with my own mother (she would be seeing the baby more if she could) she also sees baby once a week. I think it's more intense with the MIL as she lives next door and in fairness to my Mum she helped us loads with meals and with house jobs and I suppose she is my Mum. There are other things I could list about the circumstances which are difficult such as I don’t value the free house, it’s in a poor area and out of the town, i have no connection to the place and I feel very isolated (both physically and emotionally) and have done since the baby arrived. my emotional state is hanging by threads quite frankly though I am doing my best in trying to get out and meet other Mums at groups. Am I being unreasonable and just psycho Mummy for not wanting a weekly date with my MIL or to be her neighbour? Sorry for the jumbled essay but feel better for finally saying how I feel...

OP posts:
Stuckinthemiddle7890 · 11/04/2024 08:55

Daleksatemyshed · 10/04/2024 23:31

You live in your MIL house for free but don't think you shoukd have to see her? Go and pay rent somewhere else then

This is not reasonable what you wrote. As a parent if she is helping them out then that's what parents do for their kids if they can. This does not entitle said mil to do as she likes. I think from the post op is feeling like she doesn't want to see mil because she has become over bearing and its not a way to live having your mil in your shadow putting her pennies worth every 5 bloody mins.

Lentilweaver · 11/04/2024 08:55

Because op doesn't like the area or the house and she feels isolated? Her partner is of course gaining everything but op isn't benefiting much at all.

Then OP needs to talk to her Dh and move. I'd say not paying rent is benefiting the OP, no? Or does all the saved money go to her DH. So weird.

Noyesnoyes · 11/04/2024 08:56

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 08:53

Because she's rude to the op? She's spoken to her like a breed cow? She's made her feel terrible?
Because op doesn't like the area or the house and she feels isolated? Her partner is of course gaining everything but op isn't benefiting much at all.

Interesting how some posters think money buys everything?

Not paying rent is not gaining.. in what world is that true?

Noyesnoyes · 11/04/2024 08:56

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 08:55

It's sad how ingrained in built misogyny is.

No one bat's an eye that mil didn't say this to her son. Just the mum, the skivvy!

You've no idea what's been said to the son, OP has only spoken about what was said to her.

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 08:59

@Noyesnoyes

How are you ignoring the emotional side of this.

Are you the best placed person to constructively and kindly comment to a new mum here who sounds vulnerable and quite isolated and trapped.

The point of this site is to offer support.
It's very clear you don't want to offer support and you sound outraged that op has dared to query her position.
In the spirit of the site and with the ops perhaps fragility, is it worth continuing your posting here?
What are you adding to the op, how are you helping and supporting?

luckylavender · 11/04/2024 08:59

Once a week? Free rent. My heart bleeds.

Stuckinthemiddle7890 · 11/04/2024 08:59

Op you are wrong... mil is not entitled to say what what she likes on loop. Ppl need to have boundaries as well. I think you should talk to your partner and explain that where as you are completely thankful for any help your mil gives but that you need your space as a family as well and you are finding him mum over bearing. Explain you don't want to fall out with her but he needs to SEE you in the family too. You are also a family member and should be respected in the same way as mil.

Geebray · 11/04/2024 09:00

This is an easy one OP.

If you won't want to be so close to your MIL, get a mortgage/pay rent and move out.

Robinni · 11/04/2024 09:01

I’m sorry but you sound incredibly entitled and ungrateful.

You get a free house but you don’t want contact with her and complain it isn’t good enough.

If you didn’t have a major tear, or prolonged labour, induction, caesarean whatever else, then you did have a good birth.

She doesn’t have to come round and clean for you. Baby is 5 months old. You are capable of housework and she is offering to babysit to let you get on which is a nice thing to do. If you don’t have rent or a mortgage you can afford a cleaner!

Once a week is nothing, especially when she is cooking for you, maybe you could try alternating and cook a meal for her every other time.

Sorry you are feeling overwhelmed and isolated. See your GP regards mental health. If you don’t like the house then you need to pay for your own.

Starlight1979 · 11/04/2024 09:01

"She had the nerve awhile ago to say to my face how I’d had a good labour and that we have a good baby and that we were having an easy time. I snapped back and catalogued the difficulties we had had (yes the baby hasn't been colicky but there have been other difficulties like all first time parents might experience. Breastfeeding was a nightmare for months due to jaundice, a tongue tie and then thrush so the first 3/4 months of feeding were terrible."

Wow. How rude of you. She was just being nice by the sounds of it and the issues you have mentioned are absolutely nothing to do with labour or having a "good baby".

Lentilweaver · 11/04/2024 09:01

Lately I have observed on MN that no mattter what parents do for their DC, it's never enough. Dozens of posts saying parents should let their DC stay with them , provide childcare, drive them around all because of CoL and it's not like how it used to be. But at the same time, parents need to be seen, not heard, it seems.

I also find a lot of posters romanticising multi-generational living as is done in other cultures, where families "help each other out" without expecting rent or contributions. I am from one of those cultures. Well, in those other cultures, MILs and mothers have a very large say!

IAmGrey · 11/04/2024 09:01

You don't get to take to the degree you have without strings being attached. MIL offered us the full deposit on our first home...as long as it was the one she chose around the corner from her house. We turned it down and actually moved to the same road as my parents. The difference is MIL is a control freak, interfering and would have been in our home constantly.
My (late) parents never came round unless asked. They could have turned up but always chose to let us know and were never anything but helpful.
Many years later MIL was downsizing and I was alarmed to find she was looking in our immediate neighbourhood. Fortunately, our house is in the catchment area for the only outstanding school in our area, meaning house prices are high. I was relieved to find she couldn't afford a house near us. I'd have moved if she did as it's bad enough having her ten miles away. I could tell you stories that sound unbelievable. She really is a monster in law. Yours will probably get worse with you being beholden to her.

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 09:02

@Robinni

Do some research on birth trauma and then post with such confidence as to what a good birth means.

saraclara · 11/04/2024 09:03

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 08:55

It's sad how ingrained in built misogyny is.

No one bat's an eye that mil didn't say this to her son. Just the mum, the skivvy!

Where does it say that her son wasn't present, and that she didn't say it to them both?

spacehoppercommuter · 11/04/2024 09:04

Kitkat1523 · 10/04/2024 23:33

So your MIL lives next door and you pay no rent and you begrudge her seeing her grandchild once a week…fuck me 🙄

This. Move out then and stand on your own two feet. Pretty simple solution really. Most of us have to do this.

Scenicgirl · 11/04/2024 09:05

I remember it being hard after having a baby and you may be feeling a bit out of sorts with yourself and sense of identity.
Speaking as a 60 something woman, my view is your MIL probably worked dam hard to get to where she is, she has brought up her children, whilst working in a responsible role and is now is in the position to pay someone to do her cleaning, so I'm not sure why you would assume she would wish to do yours? Of course she has her own opinions, why shouldn't she?
Personally I would be pleased that she wants to spend time with her grandchild so you can crack on. As for living rent free, that's something many struggling adults would only dream about so get on with it or start saving money in order to enter the real world of a mortgage and bills.
By the way, I'm not criticising you, just that you need to look at the big picture of how bad your life really is having a MIL who is trying to help you.

Sleepingbunny1 · 11/04/2024 09:06

If honest, im shocked that you only see her once a week if you live next door- i saw my mum more often and she lived further away than that!

Free house and a roast, i think it may be your hormones and being a new mummy, just ignore the comments you dont like x

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 09:07

"shed hold the baby whilst I did it"

I can't help any further with comprehension issues.

Please remember a vulnerable mum who feels isolated is posting on a site supposedly to get help.
. Insight and posting gently other pov is one thing but some of these comments aside from not being relevant (due to a lack of understanding of the op) are mean.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 11/04/2024 09:08

Move out and pay rent elsewhere then. It seems like MIL can’t do right by doing wrong and her comments really are very normal.

I’d actually appreciate the support and popping in (once a week is nothing plus Sundays).

My own DM’s IL’s the FIL was awful and when my DP’s divorced when I was 5 DM didn’t want contact with them or my DF as the IL’s had apparently tried to turn their grandson against their DIL who they accused (still don’t know if it’s a lie) of having an affair and tried to kidnap him. White British family for what it’s worth. So you’re lucky you have a normal MIL.

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 09:08

@Scenicgirl

Please post the line where op has asked that mil does her cleaning.

Lentilweaver · 11/04/2024 09:09

Well, the OP's only option if she doesn't want to move, is to not go for the Sunday lunches- plead a headache or tiredness- and send her DH with the baby. She can't stop her DH from seeing his mum.

Dancingontheedge · 11/04/2024 09:09

It's important to remember that babies have needs and their needs are solely provided by mum.

What crap. I went back to work ft when my first was four months old, and you know what? For ten hours a day, their needs were entirely met by their father.

Starlight1979 · 11/04/2024 09:09

MrsCarson · 11/04/2024 08:31

You don't sound very nice.

THIS.

saraclara · 11/04/2024 09:09

its not a way to live having your mil in your shadow putting her pennies worth every 5 bloody mins.

I think you mean "putting her pennies worth in one a week"

Again, this is a MIL who is funding the roof over OP 's head, lives next door, but only sees them once a week (when she even provides their meal)

The things she's said aren't even that bad compared to many grandparents.

If OP isn't happy, then she needs to move away and pay for her own housing. MIL is actually remarkably restrained on only seeing them once a week

Starlight1979 · 11/04/2024 09:10

NotAllowed · 11/04/2024 00:33

I think you’re being given a hard time in these comments OP. She doesn’t sound like the worst in the world but that’s besides the point. I couldn’t think of anything worse than living next door to my MIL so I empathise. Especially if you don’t have the warmest relationship. Housing and roast dinners are inconsequential. You’re entitled to live privately on your terms without feeling indebted to someone that rubs you up the wrong way. Especially with a new baby. I know it’d do my head in.

Well then she doesn't need to live next door to her then does she?!

I wouldn't move next door to my in-laws (as much as I love them!) because it would be too close. People do have choices in life you know.

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