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To be irritated by Asda card woman?

236 replies

ExitSandyman · 10/04/2024 20:57

At our local Asda there is a woman who hangs around the cards - she’s ALWAYS there. She doesn’t seem to do much other than tidy up the shelves and bother customers. She wears a badge that’s says volunteer.

Anyway whenever you go down the cards aisle she will come over and ask if you need any help. No matter what your answer is, she will ask who you’re buying for and start pulling out cards that you might like.

I personally like to shop in peace. If I’m buying a card, I know the person I’m buying for and I know what kind of thing they’ll like.?having this woman pushing various cards into me is a distraction and an annoyance. Has anyone ever heard of these volunteers at Asda? Is it some kind of scheme? She’s been there well over a year. My heart sinks everytime I need a card and I see her stood there as she just won’t leave people alone.

and yeah I know people will say shop for cards elsewhere but I shouldn’t have to!

OP posts:
NotTerfNorCis · 11/04/2024 12:08

I would find this irritating and intrusive too. I'd consider buying cards elsewhere.

Notinthemood12 · 11/04/2024 12:15

BusyMummy001 · 11/04/2024 10:28

I know she’s being kind, but I totally get you. I have a similar response when I go into Pets@Home.

Every time you go to pay, perhaps with a skittish dog that’s just been to the vet up stairs, they insist upon asking for your loyalty card and pushing you to dig it out. If you say you don’t have one, they push you into signing up, if you do they expect you to fumble around with your phone and find it and/or check for vouchers (while the queue grows behind you). I just want to flipping pay for my bag of dog food and go. I pretty much have to say that now, and hate that it seems rude, but I have better things to do…

I hate self serve tills, but I’m may be coming round to them…

Oh I hate this. Do I have a loyalty card, no. Do I want one, no. Do I realise that I can save 30% by signing up today, I don’t give a rats behind.
So irritating

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:15

pootlin · 11/04/2024 11:53

You need to ask them to move. They have shelves to fill, they can’t keep shifting for every shopper that doesn’t know to how to use their words!

Oh. Wow. I totally never thought of that.

Thank you so much.

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:26

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:15

Oh. Wow. I totally never thought of that.

Thank you so much.

So you’re saying you ask them to move and they refuse? I’ve literally never had that experience or seen that happen.

Weird that it happens to you so regularly.

stayathomer · 11/04/2024 12:29

My god if we could get my brother (asd) a job like this our lives would be made!) Well done Asda for giving people opportunities like this

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:30

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:26

So you’re saying you ask them to move and they refuse? I’ve literally never had that experience or seen that happen.

Weird that it happens to you so regularly.

No. Imagine, if you will, me saying excuse me and Card Lady huffing and taking her sweet time to move a mere few inches so I can choose a nice card.

Not hard, is it?

Balloonhearts · 11/04/2024 12:31

Just politely tell her to leave you alone. No thank you, I'd prefer to choose by myself, I don't want help today.

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:33

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:30

No. Imagine, if you will, me saying excuse me and Card Lady huffing and taking her sweet time to move a mere few inches so I can choose a nice card.

Not hard, is it?

Edited

As I said, I’ve never seen staff do this, you must be asking rudely.

madnessitellyou · 11/04/2024 12:33

So busy that you can't possibly engage with the volunteer for 20 seconds but plenty of time to moan on mumsnet. Hmm.

Years ago I worked at a supermarket who employed a gentleman with additional needs. It's been over two decades since i left and he still comes over for a chat. He shakes my hand, he asks how I am and then we both get on with our day. I'm always in a rush but I take 30 seconds out of my shop.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 11/04/2024 12:34

Oh the pious prats are out in good number today. The same posters who jump in to criticise anybody and anything else for anything at all. Here they are banging a drum that nobody needs to listen to.

It's fantastic that there are schemes available to help people with SEN, I've worked with social services teams who've busted a gut to do the same but it isn't as straightforward as some seem to think that a person can be placed into a role without support and that's what seems to be happening here. It takes collaboration and an understanding of the roles that people with SEN are being put into, along with support, to make it a success. Pinning a 'volunteer' badge on and putting that person into an area where people where to browse, without that support, is what's unkind. Where are all the 'be kind' posters on that?

As PP has said, leaving a volunteer without help or guidance isn't something to be lauded and ASDA should be focusing on that rather than a box-ticking exercise... or what's the oft overused phrase here - virtue signalling? This thread smacks of it.

It doesn't matter how often OP buys cards. Telling posters to 'shop elsewhere' is just moronic. Suggest that to the CEO of ASDA then and see if they agree with you. I suspect not. There is some really pathetic posturing here and it's doing nobody any favours.

Scrunshine · 11/04/2024 12:34

Assuming this lady has some kind of SEN and isn’t good at picking up on social cues you just need to be kind but firm with her.

‘Do you need any help?’
’No, thank you’
‘who are you buying a card for?’
’I really just want to choose one on my own. Is that ok?’

If she’s really persistent after that then it might be a good idea to mention to the store that she might need some training.

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:36

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:33

As I said, I’ve never seen staff do this, you must be asking rudely.

You're right. That must be it. When I say 'excuse me... thanks love!' it probably does sound like 'get the fuck out my road so I can pick a fucking card for my mum's birthday. You bitch.'

Notmyuser · 11/04/2024 12:38

Moier · 10/04/2024 21:41

My friends daughter volunteers in the cafe at ASDA.. she is SEN.. They are well known for doing this.. some lead to part time work.

Yes, our local Asda has quite a few staff members with additional support needs - many of them in paid roles too. It’s fantastic, even if it does lead to some interesting conversations. I once got told I was turning my baby into a “booze bag” because I bought four ciders as a gift when pregnant 😂

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:38

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:36

You're right. That must be it. When I say 'excuse me... thanks love!' it probably does sound like 'get the fuck out my road so I can pick a fucking card for my mum's birthday. You bitch.'

Well you must be conveying that if you get that reaction every time.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/04/2024 12:40

the80sweregreat · Yesterday 20:58
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She sounds nuts ! Why voluntarily volunteer to work in Asda ? No offence to the lady , but this sounds a bit bizarre !”

Aww. You’re all empathy, aren’t you.

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:41

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:38

Well you must be conveying that if you get that reaction every time.

Fuck. I need to go. I'm going to pop round right now and throw myself at Card Lady's feet and beg forgiveness for saying 'excuse me...thanks love!' in such a nasty way.

RelationshipOrNot · 11/04/2024 12:43

All this talk of just politely declining ignores the fact that that is not easy for customers who have SEN or are neurodiverse themselves. If someone knew how to politely deflect an insistent person, they probably wouldn't be here saying that they would find this situation difficult. I would have no clue what to say if she didn't back off after I said no thank you. If staff are in my way, I just continue my shopping elsewhere in the store and come back later to get what I needed. I would never dream of asking them to move.

PollyPeachum · 11/04/2024 12:43

I'm sure the volunteer lady would love to be out and about being busy. Unfortunately she can't be. My sister would have been over the moon to be in that kind of place.
So very sorry that people can't recognise that you can manage the situation where the volunteer has a a pleasant exchange and the customer gets the cards they require.
Treating people nicely from a position of strength or power is a mark of how civilised we are.

One or two low scores today!

Dibbydoos · 11/04/2024 12:46

Some people have to volunteer to get benefits. I don't know I'd she is one of them or is trying to build up retail experience, but I'd just talk to her. Tell her you know what you're looking for and you're good without help.

She may be lonel, so be kind.

Hope this works.

Iwantitidontwantit · 11/04/2024 12:46

Some of the responses on here make me despair.

Those agreeing with op, you do realise your own circumstances can change in a blink an eye? You could become the person with additional needs?

We are all bloody busy and anti social but it's a dark fucking day when you cannot show a shred of empathy for anyone else because of it.

willWillSmithsmith · 11/04/2024 12:48

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 11/04/2024 12:34

Oh the pious prats are out in good number today. The same posters who jump in to criticise anybody and anything else for anything at all. Here they are banging a drum that nobody needs to listen to.

It's fantastic that there are schemes available to help people with SEN, I've worked with social services teams who've busted a gut to do the same but it isn't as straightforward as some seem to think that a person can be placed into a role without support and that's what seems to be happening here. It takes collaboration and an understanding of the roles that people with SEN are being put into, along with support, to make it a success. Pinning a 'volunteer' badge on and putting that person into an area where people where to browse, without that support, is what's unkind. Where are all the 'be kind' posters on that?

As PP has said, leaving a volunteer without help or guidance isn't something to be lauded and ASDA should be focusing on that rather than a box-ticking exercise... or what's the oft overused phrase here - virtue signalling? This thread smacks of it.

It doesn't matter how often OP buys cards. Telling posters to 'shop elsewhere' is just moronic. Suggest that to the CEO of ASDA then and see if they agree with you. I suspect not. There is some really pathetic posturing here and it's doing nobody any favours.

I can’t tell who you’re angry at? Who are the pious prats?

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:51

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:41

Fuck. I need to go. I'm going to pop round right now and throw myself at Card Lady's feet and beg forgiveness for saying 'excuse me...thanks love!' in such a nasty way.

Maybe get her a 'I'm sorry' card!

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 11/04/2024 12:54

Iwantitidontwantit · 11/04/2024 12:46

Some of the responses on here make me despair.

Those agreeing with op, you do realise your own circumstances can change in a blink an eye? You could become the person with additional needs?

We are all bloody busy and anti social but it's a dark fucking day when you cannot show a shred of empathy for anyone else because of it.

Some of the peope replying ARE people with addition needs saying that this situation would make the uncomfortable and would be difficult for them

Americano75 · 11/04/2024 12:54

pootlin · 11/04/2024 12:51

Maybe get her a 'I'm sorry' card!

I will if she let's me past to look!

AccidentallyFabulous · 11/04/2024 12:58

ASighMadeOfStone · 11/04/2024 05:45

Asda have not failed to implement the scheme properly.

Our shit, ablist society have failed to accept that people different to us belong in it just as much as we do.

And twats cause havoc and play tricks on retail staff whether they have LDs or not. That's because they've been brought up by people who have never told them not to.

Well it's potentially both isn't it?

My daughter could very easily be in a role like the volunteer described in the OP.

While I think a scheme like this is brilliant and I would expect volunteers to be treated with respect by customers and other staff, it would be doing the volunteer a disservice if they're not trained/able to deal with customers who don't want or need their help.

I know only too well that ableist pillocks exist, but I don't think that's the only thing happening here.