Have you damaged the life of a child?

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The Cass Review into child’s gender services is out. For those of us who have been following this for years, it really is a No Shit Sherlock moment. All of our beliefs and fears for what is happening to vulnerable children (mainly autistic, traumatised or same-sex attracted girls) is set out in black and white.

https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/

So,

Every doctor, psychologist and therapist who ignored evidence and went along with this medical scandal and who set a child on the path of no return to future infertility, osteoporosis, increased heart disease and dementia risk, lower IQ and foreshortened life span;

Every school counsellor who felt they were Rosa Parks, whispering secrets to vulnerable kids and damaging the parent-child relationship;

Every teacher who adopted gender ideology and actively poured poison into their student’s ears;

Every teacher who shut down a student who wasn’t toeing the party line;

Every teacher who made girls feel ashamed for not being happy about sharing toilets with boys;

Every social worker who damaged the parent-child relationship and threatened parents with consequences for not affirming their child’s trans identity;

Every child’s friend’s “cool” parent who claimed their home was a sanctuary from the child’s bigoted parents;

Every autism organisation staff member or volunteer who swallowed the nonsense whole and damaged a generation of autistic girls;

Every person who cut off friends when they raised concerns about trans ideology and kids;

Every Facebook group moderator who blocked members raising the mildest questioning of gender ideology, then out up the sickening virtue signalling post about “no hate allowed”;

Every single person who chanted “protect trans kids” without knowing a single thing about the issues;

Every sports coach who allowed boys into the girl’s teams and berated objecting parents and girls as bigots;

Every separated parent going along with the child’s trans nonsense to get back at the other parent.;

Everyone who has ever donated to Mermaids;

Every single person who blindly believed that a parent’s doubts about transitioning their child were based on transphobia and bigotry, not love and concern;

Everyone who has ever told a child that society hates them because of their trans identity;

Every parent who didn’t do their due diligence and happily went along with their child and who enjoyed the attention of having a trans child;

Every politician (pretty much all of them) who decided to ride this one out, even though they could see the harm occurring in real time

This disaster, ruining the lives of a generation of children, is on you.

Exactly. I want everyone to know about this.

This still stands:

You've seen what happened to teachers who openly disagreed with transitioning students.

Look to the future, not blaming people for past mistakes or doing things they felt they had to. People lost their jobs for being GC, it's no wonder at times teachers "toed the party line".

Maybe not from the report, but you can conclude this from common sense.
When gender reassignment was undertaken at CXH decades ago, patients had to live as a male/female for at least 2 years, undergo therapy during this time, then be assessed for surgery. Drugs and surgery were only provided after a rigorous, protracted process.
Most importantly, it was only available to those over 18
Recent parents supporting and forcing the 'me, me, me' and 'i'm entitled to this' children have fucked it for everyone

Thank you OP

If I was a teacher I would have toed the party line too. However I thought my post was clear in that I was referring to teachers who actively shout down and shame kids who express gender critical views, rather than allowing the view to be heard and making a neutral moving on statement.

It didn't read like that to me, it read like any teacher who stopped the debate was wrong. Or any teacher who didn't shout up was wrong. Happy to accept your intentions were good though.

I agree with everything in your OP.

This stuff has wormed it's may into nearly every little aspect of society and we are going to have to work really hard to reverse the damage.

I’m a teacher. My reaction to any child telling me their pronouns/names etc. over the past 10 years has been the same:

’Thank you for letting me know. It’s great that you are exploring your personality. The school don’t make changes without parental permission, so this is a conversation for you and your mum.’

We have a vanishingly small number of children beating this drum, because the teachers kindly and sensitively push back against it. It helps that lots of staff are also parents.

That is wonderful. What a wise and sensible thing to say to a child .

I fear the lack of critical thinking across the board is responsible for poor decision making, but I don’t think you have taken the pressure into account.

The pressure to conform or you will lose your job was/is very real if you are responsible for a mortgage and food on the table. So many lost their jobs standing up for what is right. Especially at the beginning when we didn’t have the swell of public support we have now, even on here we were not allowed to post … it’s been a very long (silencing) road.

Children need to know that all adults are on the same page, even if they want to push against it. I don’t need kids to like me, I just need to act in their best interests.

It’s right that teenagers are exploring who they are. It’s wrong that adults with an agenda push them in a certain direction.

I don't think parent should have a say about how a student wants to be called and what pronouns do we use for them. If you can give yourself a nickname, why is changing a name (not legally, but on the tregister) so difficult? I have had a number of trans students over the years, they all remained such even 10-12 years down the line, I am glad I didnt cause them distress by 'gently pushing against' anything.

@PenguinLord

What happens at parents’ evening? Conversations with parents? Reports home?

I fundamentally disagree with your approach, as a parent and teacher.

<sigh> Yet another anti trans thread and one that doesn’t really give a shit about services for young people at all. It’s just yet another stick to focus on anti trans. Hell we’re supposed to ignore all other election issues and Tory atrocities in order to focus on the trans debate when we vote apparently. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the same old posters ignoring how bad autism and mental health services are for young people in the anti trans battle cry.

There is a far bigger problem which is lack of MH services for the 18-25 group or proper autism support. Young people fall off a cliff edge from CAMHs into adult services. There is often nothing and adult services is just not appropriate. In the years coming up to 18 CAMHs start to wash their hands of you and offer next to no transition to adult services support.There are also big issues with autism diagnostic waits and lack of any support anywhere for autistic young people with MH struggles. MH services have been eroded to next to nothing across the board. You can be admitted to hospital multiple times for trying to take your own life and still get nothing other than a sticking plaster. Are we surprised that that young people questioning gender have been let down? Where were you op when parents,professionals and young people have continuously said how bad things are in mental health services across the board? It doesn’t suit the anti trans agenda of posters like you so you have stayed silent as you don’t actually give a shit about the wider picture.

Could we not give that a thought in all this. And also give a thought to all the professionals and parents coping with struggling young people day in and day out with practically non existent services and no autism or mental health support or treatment anywhere.

An awful lot of ‘let’s be kiiiind’ and ‘but they didn’t know’ hand wringing going on for people who, as the OP said, ACTIVELY pushed gender ideology onto children.

I have no sympathy for them.

@MarshMarig0ld7364

I agree that this is actually an autism support issue. I disagree that it’s anti-trans.

You’re sharing a lot of specific details that could be considered an invasion of that child’s privacy. How is that being on the right side of helping them?

Before you go bonkers about PBs and growth hormones, remember there are children with genuine endocrine conditions who need these (eg to prevent a 6 year old going into puberty).

There are still clinical reasons where these treatments are medically necessary.

But i totally agree that it was about time re the report. The affirmatory approach is very damaging. I have a friend who is almost encouraging their primary age child to be trans. Its very odd, the parents almost seem to revel in having taken what was a typical toddlers love of pretty things/glitter/pink as meaning a child who should be affirmed as making a choice to be a girl.

I have mentioned autism multiple times in my posts on this thread. I agree that support services for young people with autism are appalling and lacking. This is true in the UK and my country Australia.

I will not be shamed into backing down from saying trans ideology is absolute poison for girls and young women with autism. The fact that the very few supports and services for girls with autism have been infiltrated by the trans lobby is a disgrace.

Agreed.

You can’t speak for every girl or young woman with autism. It’s a massive spectrum and if you’ e met one person with autism, you’ve met one person.

What services? What services for girls with autism have been infiltrate by the trans lobby?? There are none anywhere . Why aren’t you campaigning for better autism and MH provision across the board?

They don't when they prescribe anything else why would they with this?

Even the covid vaccine I was jabbed THEN given a list of what could go wrong

I've been left on medication for over 25 years no-one has mentioned until recently it's a short term drug not long term

Doctors may not have the time to talk through all the side effects, but as an adult or a parent of a patient who is being prescribed PBs you would do your research. People should not blindly go into anything, and then cry about it later and state they didn’t know. All meds have side effects, any responsible parent would be looking this up for sure.

@MarshMarig0ld7364 GCs have been saying for years (and the cass report reiterates that today) that one of the harms of gender ideology is that it means many patients with multiple issues that happen to include any amount of gender distress get treated as if the gender issues are the whole problem and as if social or medical transition will make the other problems go away.

Trans activists however have been vilifying anyone who advocates for the exploratory or holistic treatment needed.

I think it’s very easy to judge when you haven’t got a suicidal child you’re trying to keep alive.