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To say what instead of pardon?

181 replies

toomanycoffeess · 06/04/2024 19:19

Or is that rude?

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toomanycoffeess · 06/04/2024 23:17

quandry77 · 06/04/2024 21:34

Then you are wrong. Only the Queen can give a pardon... and now that would be only the King can give a pardon.... my mother would say.... to ANYONE who "pardoned" her. When my children have (rarely) been corrected by a less educated (or poorly educated) person, I have sent into school a one page copy of the OED stuck into their reading record, with an explainer and a request that if they have an issue with correct English Language usage, they take it up with me. What, or what did you say? Or please repeat that - to a teacher who takes exception to correct EL usage works.

Bet you’re the subject of many laughs in the staff room.

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HeIsRisen · 06/04/2024 23:17

Diversion · 06/04/2024 21:13

Just smiled at this as it was something which my Mum used to say to me as a child and I could hear her voice in my head too. " It's not what, it's pardon". I miss my Mum but little things bring back memories and make me smile.

Edited

Same here 😊 and I've been congratulating myself for years that my children actually do say pardon when my mum didn't succeed with me when I was little.
Now I read this thread.....😳😂

GHSP · 06/04/2024 23:20

This has been done to death. Say whatever you want and most English speakers will get your gist. Choose what class signals / dialect / impression you want to give off if you like.

SwordToFlamethrower · 06/04/2024 23:24

Ya what love?

AlmondNutbutter · 06/04/2024 23:45

'What?' might be mistaken for an aggressive 'You, wot?' depending on where you are and earn you a dirty look at best and a punch at worst.

Meanwhile, the contents of the Lav, crapper, loo, ladies, gents, toilet, pissoir, little boys/ girls room, bathroom, 'facilities' will all end up in our rivers eventually.

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 00:07

Pardon, is when you're asking / need forgiveness. i.e. you've farted, loud burp etc.
Excuse me, sorry can you repeat, what -tone important.
Does any one really give a shit about this kind of stuff these days.

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 10:24

Working class: What?
Middle class: Pardon?
Upper class: Sorry?

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:02

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 10:24

Working class: What?
Middle class: Pardon?
Upper class: Sorry?

No, Upper Class is What.

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:03

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 00:07

Pardon, is when you're asking / need forgiveness. i.e. you've farted, loud burp etc.
Excuse me, sorry can you repeat, what -tone important.
Does any one really give a shit about this kind of stuff these days.

Just never say pardon. About anything.

In those instances you would say "Excuse me", if you acknowledged them at all.

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:05

NewMoonontuesday · 06/04/2024 23:09

I hate the fucking word loo! So what are you supposed to say instead of lounge? Sitting room?
But I’m WC and I’m quite happy with that. Certainly don’t want to be a snobby MC.

But you are snobby, aren't you? An inverted one.

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:07

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 00:07

Pardon, is when you're asking / need forgiveness. i.e. you've farted, loud burp etc.
Excuse me, sorry can you repeat, what -tone important.
Does any one really give a shit about this kind of stuff these days.

no, that's "pardon me"

And obviously quite a lot of people care Grin

I grew up saying what (lmc with wc roots and relatives) and began to be told by teachers to say pardon at almost exactly the same time I was becoming aware both of class distinctions in language and of the advantages that being thought higher-class might bring. (And read Jilly Cooper's seminal work a year or so later.)

The resulting confusion means I now say "sorry?"

Still cling on to lounge, settee, loo, napkin or serviette depending on context and company (yes, you absolutely can use both [eyeroll]), scent, mirror, mantelpiece, glasses, false teeth, jack, die (? I'm looking at the wikipedia page right now), jam, pudding, teacher. Take issue with their putting lounge against dining-room (two completely different things) and agree with pp that cemetery and graveyard are different too. While obviously dinner can be at either lunchtime or teatime. Grin

Periperipissoff · 07/04/2024 14:08

I just cup my ear and go "eh??" 🤣

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:11

Gingernurt88 · 06/04/2024 19:21

"Sorry I didn't catch that" or "Sorry I didn't hear you" absolutely suffice. I think pardon is one of those words that can actually sound quite harsh without it managing to be. Sometimes it can sound like someone is barking at you like "PARDON" when actually it's their normal tone

First answer nails it (for me.) I say 'sorry?' or 'sorry - I didn't catch that.'

And I am working class, not upper-class. (A pp suggested UC say 'sorry?') I just think saying 'sorry?' when you didn't hear someone properly just sounds nicer/more polite.

'Pardon?' sounds like you're a bit annoyed, and 'what?' sounds too coarse (IMO.)

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 14:17

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:07

no, that's "pardon me"

And obviously quite a lot of people care Grin

I grew up saying what (lmc with wc roots and relatives) and began to be told by teachers to say pardon at almost exactly the same time I was becoming aware both of class distinctions in language and of the advantages that being thought higher-class might bring. (And read Jilly Cooper's seminal work a year or so later.)

The resulting confusion means I now say "sorry?"

Still cling on to lounge, settee, loo, napkin or serviette depending on context and company (yes, you absolutely can use both [eyeroll]), scent, mirror, mantelpiece, glasses, false teeth, jack, die (? I'm looking at the wikipedia page right now), jam, pudding, teacher. Take issue with their putting lounge against dining-room (two completely different things) and agree with pp that cemetery and graveyard are different too. While obviously dinner can be at either lunchtime or teatime. Grin

Pardon me, Pardon you. Tongue in cheek, where I'm from anyway. Don't think I've ever heard anyone use it seriously.

Elphame · 07/04/2024 14:18

BCBird · 06/04/2024 19:33

Working class. Always say pardon. If any pupils say what, I give them 'the look' and it soon becomes pardon😆

DD had a teacher who did this. We all laughed about it at home.

Gingernurt88 · 07/04/2024 14:20

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:11

First answer nails it (for me.) I say 'sorry?' or 'sorry - I didn't catch that.'

And I am working class, not upper-class. (A pp suggested UC say 'sorry?') I just think saying 'sorry?' when you didn't hear someone properly just sounds nicer/more polite.

'Pardon?' sounds like you're a bit annoyed, and 'what?' sounds too coarse (IMO.)

Edited

I'm definitely not upper class 🤣

WoollyRosebud · 07/04/2024 14:22

My DDad used to say 'Don't say what say eh, ey makes bullshit' He was full of sayings like that. I miss him

Oneearringlost · 07/04/2024 14:33

Whatifthehokeycokey · 06/04/2024 21:24

If you're not supposed to say 'lounge' or 'living room', what are you supposed to say? PARLOUR??!!

Sitting room?

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:33

Pardon me is almost worse than pardon.

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:46

Isn't it quite stressful, worrying about whether your children are considered common?

Tbh, it's bad enough worrying that they may be considered posh. If I'd also had to think about what his future fellow choral scholars (several actual Eton alumni) called their relaxing room I might have been committed...

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:47

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:33

Pardon me is almost worse than pardon.

I associate 'pardon me' with someone having burped or farted. 😄

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:49

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:47

I associate 'pardon me' with someone having burped or farted. 😄

Yeah, but I don't say that. I just say 'better out than in!' 😆

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:56

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:49

Yeah, but I don't say that. I just say 'better out than in!' 😆

My kind of person 😂

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 15:07

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:56

My kind of person 😂

😘😃😛

gould · 07/04/2024 15:22

This is interesting

My FIL, very wealthy public school boy, always say what?