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Bullshitter at work - could this be true?

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crochetmonkey74 · 06/04/2024 06:09

There's a woman at work who is basically full of lies. A few people have fallen for it , but in order to have done everything she's done, she would need to be 200 years old.
Her latest tale is that she was caught speeding on the motorway at 120mph but the police let her off with a warning. Surely that cannot be true? I was under the impression that the police always act on speeding that is this dramatic. What do you guys think?

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qotsa · 06/04/2024 15:34

cafenoirbiscuit · 06/04/2024 09:30

I’d be tempted to say ‘cool story, bro’ (needs more dinosaurs)

😂😆🤣

the80sweregreat · 06/04/2024 15:36

We've all met the boasters and the bull shitters and the ones who big themselves up , but mostly it's best to just nod and smile as someone will rat them out eventually. Plus liars need good memories, so best to store up the blatant tall stories to hold against them down the line if they trip up , which can happen!
I think it's a personality flaw sometimes or just a way of making themselves look good / better.
It is sad really and any true facts they might say are then not believed.

Ohdearydeary · 06/04/2024 15:38

crumbledog · 06/04/2024 15:16

Used to work with one of these. She was a terrible administrator, would never finish any work given and would add clip art to official documents, presumably to compensate for terrible quality of whatever she’d typed. She took on the job role by proxy of wherever she was working, same if she read and article about a holiday destination, she’d been there snorkelling, water gliding, parachuting from 10,000 feet - she was very unfit, so it was obviously lies.
She eventually went to work in doctors surgery as a receptionist, so probably worked her way to top surgeon by now.

There must have been more to it that made her stories impossible, not just she was seriously unfit?

I had a teacher at school who was seriously seriously obese, like can’t stand up for the length of the lesson situation- who used to be in the British trampolining team. She had had a terrible accident and basically became disabled and just ballooned.

And at work we had some stupid thing where we had to bring in stuff and tell a fact about ourselves that would surprise the team- a similarly sized/fitness level colleague revealed she had been a professional ballet dancer in the royal ballet- complete with photos and paraphernalia.

badhappenings · 06/04/2024 15:42

I'm ashamed to say years ago, I got stopped doing 115 mph and was let off by the police officer who stopped me. (He was fuming, but when he calmed down, he definitely taught me a very good lesson about deaths/what he sees on roads and motorways etc).

So yes I would believe it, particularly if it was a long time ago.

If you met me, I don't think you would ever believe the type of life and adventures I've had.

I think you're possibly and with respect very limited in your life experiences.

WitchWithoutChips · 06/04/2024 15:44

fiddleleaffig · 06/04/2024 08:09

But imagine being 35 , and already you've been a doctor, a vet, a solicitor

I read that and thought give the girl a break, she might have adhd - for context I have adhd, I'm a qualified hairdresser, nail technician, meditation coach, accountant, teacher, have run 2 business of my own, have 4 dc, and currently considering a career change.... Blush it happens sometimes (also in my late 30s)

The operation though - okay yeah that's bullshit. If she's gonna lie, at least keep it vaguely believable. Just roll your eyes and play along with it

Seven years to qualify as a doctor
Five years to qualify as a vet
Four - five years to qualify as a solicitor (depending on the training route)

That’s sixteen years accounted for with no time allowed for actually practising any of those professions and earning some money to pay off the hundreds of thousands of pounds in student loans that she would have if she had truly qualified in all three fields.

CaterhamReconstituted · 06/04/2024 15:44

Massive bullshitter. I think there’s more of them than we think. I knew a woman once who said her two children died. It turned out to be complete fiction. She was one of these people who loved the attention and sympathy those lies bought her.

Trust your bullshit detector.

Oh yes, another woman I know claimed she was best friends with Princess Grace.

KomodoOhno · 06/04/2024 15:48

crochetmonkey74 · 06/04/2024 15:19

I'm not going to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who says she woke up in an operation and guided the surgeon who she somehow knew was doing it wrong!!

Oh lord I had a friend like this. The older we got the more outlandish the stories.

Grammarnut · 06/04/2024 15:49

Why are you worried. She likes telling stories, probably exaggerates a bit and its fun for the listeners. What is it to you?

Missamyp · 06/04/2024 15:50

DP was bollocked and had no charges after an unplanned race with a BMW x5 with blacked-out windows, reaching speeds over 100mph on a local bypass. The car turned out to be occupied by armed police officers.

His mate called him (A police officer) a couple of hrs later asking what the chuff DP.😂

SoOriginal · 06/04/2024 15:54

Hahaha tell Sandra I said hi! Last time we spoke she was organising the Oscars…

Ive worked with someone the same, but she was so extreme than no one go sucked in thankfully! She was a temporary PA and when she was let go she actually offered one of the Directors a Job on the board of her ‘new business’, before she was escorted from the office 😂

WitchWithoutChips · 06/04/2024 15:56

Grammarnut · 06/04/2024 15:49

Why are you worried. She likes telling stories, probably exaggerates a bit and its fun for the listeners. What is it to you?

We have different ideas of fun.

Westfacing · 06/04/2024 15:57

therealcookiemonster · 06/04/2024 15:25

depending on the operation, this is theoretically possible... if she was sedated rather than having a full ga

what operation was it?

also certain brain surgeries are done awake with patient involvement

also certain brain surgeries are done awake with patient involvement

But how likely is it that a patient would be able to tell the neuro-surgeon how to do the job?

Woodlandsocks · 06/04/2024 16:00

I’ve worked with different variations of this type of thing. At its worst a woman who reported me for lots of weird made up fantasies of hers. It was so awful, pushed me right to the edge.

Then one where she couldn’t help it and was diagnosed with a psychotic disorder.

Another where she’d grown up with DV and I think lying=survival. And it became habitual maybe?

I just nod with the milder types and grey rock the first type.

TopOfTheCliff · 06/04/2024 16:09

I had a SIL like this who was allegedly a Casualty Sister, a magistrate, a candidate for the European Parliament, owned black horses for a celebrity funeral business, had a narrowboat and three kitchen/ bathroom shops. She worked in a care home though. She had had cancer three times cured without surgery or chemotherapy. Sadly she actually got a real diagnosis and died and even more fabulous facts emerged. We had considered hiring a detective to sort out the truth but BIL was so happy with her it seemed cruel and unnecessary. We just eye rolled and took the piss when we got home.
I think it’s Walter Mitty/ Münchausen syndrome a bit like Donald Trump. They end up believing their own stories. The time to worry is when her DC starts showing mysterious symptoms that could be Fabricated Illness.

crochetmonkey74 · 06/04/2024 16:11

badhappenings · 06/04/2024 15:42

I'm ashamed to say years ago, I got stopped doing 115 mph and was let off by the police officer who stopped me. (He was fuming, but when he calmed down, he definitely taught me a very good lesson about deaths/what he sees on roads and motorways etc).

So yes I would believe it, particularly if it was a long time ago.

If you met me, I don't think you would ever believe the type of life and adventures I've had.

I think you're possibly and with respect very limited in your life experiences.

Nope not limited thanks.
She is just a fantasist

OP posts:
crochetmonkey74 · 06/04/2024 16:12

Grammarnut · 06/04/2024 15:49

Why are you worried. She likes telling stories, probably exaggerates a bit and its fun for the listeners. What is it to you?

Nothing, but this is a chat forum on which I like to chat

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Ohdearydeary · 06/04/2024 16:22

TopOfTheCliff · 06/04/2024 16:09

I had a SIL like this who was allegedly a Casualty Sister, a magistrate, a candidate for the European Parliament, owned black horses for a celebrity funeral business, had a narrowboat and three kitchen/ bathroom shops. She worked in a care home though. She had had cancer three times cured without surgery or chemotherapy. Sadly she actually got a real diagnosis and died and even more fabulous facts emerged. We had considered hiring a detective to sort out the truth but BIL was so happy with her it seemed cruel and unnecessary. We just eye rolled and took the piss when we got home.
I think it’s Walter Mitty/ Münchausen syndrome a bit like Donald Trump. They end up believing their own stories. The time to worry is when her DC starts showing mysterious symptoms that could be Fabricated Illness.

That isn’t Münchausen’s if she actually had cancer and died from it- you can’t self induce cancer.

Pomegranatecarnage · 06/04/2024 16:24

Nicetobenice67 · 06/04/2024 13:55

Why didn't you just scroll past mine i stead of making something out of it 🙄

Because when people make derogatory comments like that, it’s against the spirit of the page and it puts people off posting.

Pomegranatecarnage · 06/04/2024 16:28

Ohdearydeary · 06/04/2024 16:22

That isn’t Münchausen’s if she actually had cancer and died from it- you can’t self induce cancer.

Obviously she means she “cried wolf” three times, then sadly really did have cancer. My cousin was like this. She was constantly saying she had serious illnesses (brain tumours, cancer of the liver, AIDS, MS) then when she genuinely did fall ill with a heart problem initially no one believed her.

therealcookiemonster · 06/04/2024 16:28

Westfacing · 06/04/2024 15:57

also certain brain surgeries are done awake with patient involvement

But how likely is it that a patient would be able to tell the neuro-surgeon how to do the job?

we usually do these to check which part of the brain we are working on. not for the patient to direct the surgery.

but theoretically someone medically qualified who is undergoing a simple procedure under very low sedation might be able advice or chat the surgeon. eg. I had my fistula for dialysis done by a colleague and I chose to be awake with local only and had a good old natter about the anatomy of my arm and and what he was doing (I wasn't so presumptuous as to give him advice God forbid!). but if a senior surgeon was having a procedure done by a junior one, I could see this happening (not saying that is what happened in OP's colleagues case). I have at times had to take my own blood/put cannula in when more junior colleagues were struggling as I have very poor blood vessels.

when patients have surgeries under spinal or regional blocks we keep them updated as to what is happening and might ask their consent about parts of the procedure. someone with a sense of self inflated ego could interpret this as "telling the surgeon what to do".

Ohdearydeary · 06/04/2024 16:31

Pomegranatecarnage · 06/04/2024 16:28

Obviously she means she “cried wolf” three times, then sadly really did have cancer. My cousin was like this. She was constantly saying she had serious illnesses (brain tumours, cancer of the liver, AIDS, MS) then when she genuinely did fall ill with a heart problem initially no one believed her.

I get that, but that still isn’t Munchausens unless she was actually making herself ill in some way.

Saying you are ill while being perfectly healthy is batshit- but unless you’re inducing symptoms it isn’t munchausens.

StaunchMomma · 06/04/2024 16:33

ChanelNo19EDT · 06/04/2024 15:25

That's hilarious. the woman i know like this, she'd mentioned having a perforated bowel. whatever that is. Sounds serious. Anyway, at some school fundraiser she was having her second glass of wine with some wings in a chilli and garlic sauce and I said, it's so amazing that you can eat normally with your perforated bowel. Her husband's head did a 360 degree swivel. he looked at her like. Really. I'm a cow. :-p

My Mum did have a bowel perf. It's when your bowel wall ruptures. Weeks in ICU, months in hospital, sepsis twice, a massive hole in her stomach that required a machine pumping fluid from her constantly for 8 months, stoma for life, had to live with us for a year and didn't get back to work for nearly 18 months, and every time she goes for a check up at the hospital they tell her how lucky she is to be alive.

You can't 'live' with a perforated bowel. If it's not operated on in literally minutes you're dead.

She eats normally now, though.

Nicetobenice67 · 06/04/2024 16:48

Pomegranatecarnage · 06/04/2024 16:24

Because when people make derogatory comments like that, it’s against the spirit of the page and it puts people off posting.

Don't be ridiculous everyone is entitled to have an opinion EVERYONE and that was my ...wow enjoy your day

ThisHumanBean · 06/04/2024 16:55

I have had a bunch of crazy stuff happen in my past that hardly anyone but my therapist knows all about because if i say it out loud i can barely believe it myself and think its like a really bad soap opera plot. This post has got me wondering if i would sound like your colleague if i verablised some of the shit that genuinely happened.

OP, i knew a friend of a friend like this (initial F?) - lawyer/dr/biz owner/heroine at a crime scene/drama drama drama follows her everywhere and she has to be the centre of attention in every room she enters ... the sort who'd wear a massive white gown to her best mates wedding.

isitshe · 06/04/2024 17:13

Grammarnut · 06/04/2024 15:49

Why are you worried. She likes telling stories, probably exaggerates a bit and its fun for the listeners. What is it to you?

Lies damage trust. Depending on the nature of the working relationship, trust can be vital.
I worked with someone who was a fantasist. He was really likeable so most of us believed him at the start, then as time went on, we either indulged or ignored his stories. It later turned out that he was a massive thief and was caught stealing from the business (customer-facing cash handling). He blamed colleagues.
Such a dirty thing to do.

Behaviour like this woman's can be a sign of a damaged and/or dangerous person.