To be terrified I'll lose my license

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I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

You don't get to decide if it's safe to go over the limit.

The law decides what the safe limit is.

You can't just decide to break the law and then decide you don't want thr law to apply to you.

Assuming there were no lower limits in place and you were doing 80-85 then they’re 3 minor speeding offences and as a PP mentioned may even class as one continuous offence. Ignore the idiots talking about court and bans, worst case is likely a course and 2x 3pts/£100 FPNs. Best case if a single offence is a course and nothing else.

10% +2 rule no longer counts as technology has improved. I had to go on a speed awareness for doing 34 in a 30 at 9pm at night on an empty road and that was over 5 years ago now.

Best case scenario would be OP losing her licence

if you have 3 at the same time you could be looking at a ban definitely.

10% + 2 is guidance and some forces use it and some won't disclose if they use it but it is still used.

Things I learned from this thread -
We have adopted the US spelling of licence
Most MNers think that going 1mph over the limit is dangerous and being 1mph below is automatically safe.

Ignore the people trying to frighten the life out of you.

If it was 70 limit and not reduced, you'll be offered a speed awareness course (motorway) 3 boring hours and £80. Then 2x3 points and a fine. That's your worst case scenario.

Speeding at that time in the morning is extremely dangerous
Remember it's not just about you
Other road users may be tired, lorries in a rush to get where they are going before rush hour and coupled with the expectation of no other traffic can easily cause collisions

Maybe someone could confirm for me... I heard a rumour that you won't get multiple tickets for successive cameras. So if you pass one at 85 and it flashes, the next one doesn't count as it's the same stretch of road.

And how would that be under totting up if you have no previous points and they are 3 point offences, maximum is 9 points from 3 offences, probably 6 and a course. Please tell how this results in a ban.

To be fair, she wasn't caught doing 71mph
If she was I am sure even mumsnet would emphatically say she would get no action taken.

What a load of twaddle. "Lorries in a rush" - it's a motorway and lorries are speed limited to 90KPH (or less in some cases). Most of them set cruise at their max and sit there at that speed, no matter the time of day or night.

We don't even know if she was caught - 85 on her speedo could well turn out to be mid 70s in reality as 99% of car and motorbike speedos are optimistic.

I'm sorry but it's very likely you'll lose your licence if you were flashed 3 separate times. Maximum is 9 points and you get 3 points per flash but I think there's some rule about over 80mph but I could be wrong. I know my colleague lost her licence for 12 months as she got caught once doing 90mph on the M1

Are people making it up as they go along

You don’t lose your licence for doing 90mph on the motorway unless you’ve got previous convictions/points.

It’s still 3 points per offence over 80mph until you reach 100mph when they can hand out an automatic ban for a single offence.

OP is likely to get 6-9 points max.

I think most people just want to outsource their thinking to someone else. It's easy to parrot the line than it is to question and assess for yourself - many people either can't or won't do that.

It always strikes me as strange as how the government is seen to get it so right on matters of things like road safety, which we are not supposed to question because going over the limit might be "unsafe". And get it so wrong on things like the performance of the NHS, which we are supposedly allowed to.

I think the 70 mph limit is pretty arbitrary. It came in in the 60s and hasn't really been revised since. I suspect there is a lot of statistical backing for why limits in general are necessary, but much less so for why it should be 65, 70, 75 or even 80 mph limit on motorways. Car safety has changed a lot over the years. ABS brakes, crash testing and airbags. Cars are much stronger and more stable. Roads are probably better surfaced and more well lit, and we are better at identifying accident blackspots and dealing with them.

OTOH the numbers of cars on the road have increased considerably and the reaction times and experience of people on the roads has probably changed. We probably see higher temperatures, so more rain and less snow and ice/melt transistions which to me are very dangerous.

Sometimes I see the government making good and significant changes that will impact road safety in what I believe is a positive way. Sometimes I see obvious stuff that they could do that I believe would make a good impact, but for whatever reason they won't or can't. And then I see other stuff like smart motorways that just seems like a recipe for disaster. The key takeaway for me is that their performance on this varies, pretty much like with everything else.

In theory, a driver with a previously clean licence could be caught several times the same day and as a result be at risk of disqualification under the totting-up system. If you are caught speeding several times on the same journey and accept a fixed penalty for each, you could be at risk of a penalty points disqualification (totting-up). It can happen more easily than you might think, for example where several speed cameras are placed on the same road or motorway.
However, where offences are deemed to have been committed “on the same occasion”, the Court has discretion to impose only the one set of points for two or more offences. Whether or not offences will be treated as committed on the same occasion is a matter of fact for the Court to decide. They need not have been committed simultaneously, but they must be linked in some way.

I'm sorry but this is all wrong.

Maximum is 12 points, not 9.

80mph has no relevance.

Your colleague didn't get banned for being caught once doing 90mph, unless there was a non-70mph limit in force.

This.

A friend of my DH got flashed 3 times on a journey on the M25, and got 9 points. Hopefully, you'll be lucky, but take this as a warning.

For me it’s less the speed and more the absolute lack of awareness of your surroundings that is worrying.

This bit is hilarious Roads are probably better surfaced Roads were in better condition in the 60s.

PS. He didn't lose his license.

Maybe different forces have different policies, all I know is a colleague got two tickets within minutes of each other on the same stretch of road. He paid and took the points, don't know if he could have fought it in court.