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To be terrified I'll lose my license

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PepsiMaxx0 · 04/04/2024 10:15

I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

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GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 10:55

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

I'd quite like to ignore the law that means I have to pay my bills please.

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 11:00

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 10:55

I'd quite like to ignore the law that means I have to pay my bills please.

You can do that anytime you want.

Just be prepared for the consequences.

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:01

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 11:00

You can do that anytime you want.

Just be prepared for the consequences.

But someone on an internet forum told me that it's not mandatory to pay bills and you get a free allowance of tolerance on meter readings meaning £100 is instantly written off by providers. Are you telling me this isn't true?

Iwasafool · 05/04/2024 11:04

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:01

But someone on an internet forum told me that it's not mandatory to pay bills and you get a free allowance of tolerance on meter readings meaning £100 is instantly written off by providers. Are you telling me this isn't true?

I'm so glad you've passed that on. I'm going to cancel the direct debits now and go on a shipping spree.

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 11:08

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 10:50

What you said re "three times."
I've posted before and felt 9 or 12 points but no ban.
However, once speeding same hour, foolishness or lack of awareness, 2nd time, total disregard of your surrounding, 3r time could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates,

3 times, same night, same road. When driving you are supposed to be driving with 'due care and attention' - the magistrates will consider that but also how important the driving is to OP in their day to day living - ie is it essential etc

Loving the "I'm guessing" and "felt" with regard to points applicable. It doesn't work via alignment of stars, tarot cards or a lottery. Someone posted up thread a table of exactly what's applicable.

And then there's this: "could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates"

That is so far from factual that it's bizarre.

  1. Magistrates don't decide what the offence is.
  2. 3 x minor excess speeding offences - via fixed camera, no less, so not witnessed poor driving - would never, ever be classified as anything but 'minor speeding' offences by the people who do decide what the offence is.
  3. OP won't be going anywhere near a court of any type.

I assume you lot go on other threads about legal matters and just post random made up guesses there too.

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:08

Iwasafool · 05/04/2024 11:04

I'm so glad you've passed that on. I'm going to cancel the direct debits now and go on a shipping spree.

Happy to help, it's important information like this is shared with the masses.

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:22

Jovacknockowitch · 04/04/2024 22:19

You were being reductive. This thread is about breaking the national speed limit on a motorway so discussions about hitting a child in a 20 or 30 limit don’t have any relevance.

I haven't said anything about hitting a child in a 20 or 30. Maybe you're reading too fast.

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:22

I haven't said anything about hitting a child in a 20 or 30. Maybe you're reading too fast.

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:47

I assume you lot go on other threads about legal matters and just post random made up guesses there too.

You have just described most threads on MN

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:56

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

Nope. Still haven't posted anything about children being hit.

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 15:28

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

You could have just clicked the 'thanks' icon at the bottom of their diatribe.

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:00

Jovacknockowitch · 04/04/2024 16:49

How does speed cause these accidents exactly?

Very simply if you do not know the answer to that you shouldn't be on the road.

If you do know the answer and are being flippant it is offensive to anyone who has lost of loved one or had live changing injuries in accidents where speeding was involved.

Perhaps go on a speed awareness course to educate yourself.

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 16:10

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:00

Very simply if you do not know the answer to that you shouldn't be on the road.

If you do know the answer and are being flippant it is offensive to anyone who has lost of loved one or had live changing injuries in accidents where speeding was involved.

Perhaps go on a speed awareness course to educate yourself.

Speeding isn't always the cause, or the sole cause. Most crashes are caused by crap driving, sometimes along with inappropriate speed. If speeding alone caused crashes the Police wouldn't be allowed to speed. I realise it may seem a nitpicking point, but it is valid.

ZetuianRose · 05/04/2024 16:11

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 16:19

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

Sadly, children do die on motorways due to excessive and inappropriate speeding during poor weather

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 16:21

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I've never said that to anyone before but I felt it all along. First time, then the second, then the third and all along they were worried by the first flash

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BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:27

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 16:10

Speeding isn't always the cause, or the sole cause. Most crashes are caused by crap driving, sometimes along with inappropriate speed. If speeding alone caused crashes the Police wouldn't be allowed to speed. I realise it may seem a nitpicking point, but it is valid.

So you are being flippant, know the answer but minimising and dismissing it instead.

Speeding is a significant aggravating factor which kills people. All drivers (including professional) are not capable of fully mitigating the impact of speeding in the event of an accident. It might not be speeding that causes the accident, but it is speeding that means the tyre blowout cannot be controlled, losing concentration for a second means you cannot react in time, the accident that would injure someone instead kills, the safety measures in your car aren't effective due to the excessive forces, the safety barriers don't prevent your car from crossing the carriageway to oncoming traffic, emergency services have to deal with your decapitated body.

It is still offensive to be pedantic to try make a minor and trifling point when a short message that is clear to all is most effective. Speeding does kill.

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:05

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

How fast is a buttered otter? Grin

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:06

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 15:28

You could have just clicked the 'thanks' icon at the bottom of their diatribe.

Diatribe? Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not as bitter or excitable as you seem to have inferred.

SoupDragon · 05/04/2024 18:41

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:05

How fast is a buttered otter? Grin

Hopefully less than 70mph on a motorway.

Mama2many73 · 05/04/2024 18:46

DappledThings · 04/04/2024 10:37

You thought speed cameras only work on motorways if there is a temporary speed limit bellow the normal 70? But if it's NSL as usual there are no cameras in use? Really?

Yeah!? What?! Couldn't quite grasp that people think this!

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 18:50

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:27

So you are being flippant, know the answer but minimising and dismissing it instead.

Speeding is a significant aggravating factor which kills people. All drivers (including professional) are not capable of fully mitigating the impact of speeding in the event of an accident. It might not be speeding that causes the accident, but it is speeding that means the tyre blowout cannot be controlled, losing concentration for a second means you cannot react in time, the accident that would injure someone instead kills, the safety measures in your car aren't effective due to the excessive forces, the safety barriers don't prevent your car from crossing the carriageway to oncoming traffic, emergency services have to deal with your decapitated body.

It is still offensive to be pedantic to try make a minor and trifling point when a short message that is clear to all is most effective. Speeding does kill.

Thanks for your input.

DonnaBanana · 05/04/2024 19:19

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

Giving a friend some left over migraine pills I was prescribed, crossing on a red if there’s no traffic, I even used a VPN to watch iplayer from Spain once. People break laws all the time after consideration. You take the risk too of course, if you can’t do the time then don’t come at the crime.

Moanyoldmoan · 05/04/2024 21:08

I really wouldn’t tell the judge it was deliberate. I had 13 points and had to go to court, long story short I had never had a speeding ticket, had a mental breakdown and got 5 in a year. The judge took into account rural living, children, needing a licence for my job and getting medical help. He gave me a fine. I’ve not had one since and I’m clear now