To be terrified I'll lose my license

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I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

9 points if you hit all 3…no chance of opting for speed awareness course

There is no defence. You were speeding, end of. Doesn't matter if the motorway was empty or not. Once, in error, could be forgiven but to carry on is just reckless.

I don't know whether you will lose your licence or not. You will most certainly get points and a fine.

Going forward, just stick to the speed limit. Both for your safety and the safety of others.

Having been in an accident on the M62 that wasn't our fault (someone lost control of their car causing them to spin all over the place - probably going too fast) that has left me with a lifelong back problem, it really annoys me when selfish people speed.

This. The being distracted and accidentally going over the limit is one thing, to knowingly continue doing it is another

Absolute total and utter bullshit.

Again.

The thing is, you know there's no defence and then proceed to offer defence after defence. You were in the wrong, there are consequences, just be grateful they weren't worse.

If you're talking about the tolerances becoming less common, then that's more bull.

I don't understand why people are so keen to show their ignorance by posting nonsense on threads where the pertinent facts are so easily checked.

There has been no change to the tolerances applied prior to consideration of action for exceeding the speed limit in the UK (potentially excluding Scotland as they operate differently). FOI requests and disclosures would tell you that.

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Not in a 30mph zone! The areas where children are more likely to run out. So the outskirts of towns and cities etc.

Not necessarily. We got caught doing 38 in a 30- thought it was a 40. We received a letter months later saying we’d ignored the previous two letters- we hadn’t received anything! It was that long we couldn’t remember who was driving so as the car was in DH’s name he took the hit. 3 points and £400 fine. They said they would prosecute for the speeding and the letters but a solicitor said if you plead guilty to the speeding they don’t do anything about the ignoring. Obviously he plead guilty to the speeding as it’s obviously happened. He then got caught a few months later doing 58 in a 50 (motorway-temp speed limit). They offered him the speeding course which he did. Neither of us speed now and our cars have cruise control and a speed limiter.

Yes Likely to get 9p and means if you ever get caught again for speeding :bald tyre etx in the next 3yrs or is if 5 - uou will get a another 3 and lose license

Surely the first flash should have warned you to slow down

But 3 flashes /speeding is madness

Yes, COVID and a war in Eastern Europe are mere trifles compared to a couple of fender benders in Tesco car park.

The cameras work all the time. I do occasionally do 80mph on the motorway (but most cars speedos are set high and I know my car is only doing about 76mph at that point, each car is different so you would have to work out your own cars set point). I don't however ever speed on a road with cameras, no matter what the cameras are. It used to be that sometimes they weren't on (or originally had film in). Now however they are all digital and can be set remotely, so speeding wherever there are cameras is just asking for a fine.

Someone did a FOI about the speed cameras and many of the old fixed ones are not working as it costs too much to upgrade them, they still stand there though, probably as a deterrent, all 8 were inactive in our county, its quite easy to find online. So they don't all work now.

Three times!!!! The first should have made you slow and think!!
I am guessing 9 points and a fine however they don’t all have film in so you may get lucky but you need to realise that speed control is constant no matter the time of day or whether you are the only car or not!

OP has a clean licence so first offence is likely to be a course if it falls within the criteria.

Assume you were pissed when you wrote this (hopefully not driving, if so).

Where does anything I've written say I think I'm above the law??? I have never even mentioned personally breaking the speed limit.

And as for the barrister - calling him "a speeding tosser"??? How do you know he even drives?!

How incredibly arrogant.

This thread is about driving on a motorway.

Exactly @teaandtoastwithmarmite they legally have to write within 14 days. The fact you didn’t receive/ignored previous correspondence is neither here nor there. It’s automated and will have been sent. They hold you accountable for checking your mail. If you genuinely didn’t receive the letter then you could have gone to court and defended and not received points etc. but you would have needed to have some evidence along the lines of postal disarray from po to support your claims. If they are the only mail you didn’t receive then it’s more likely your fault and you mislaid/didn’t open the mail.

Of course they mean 160mph! It’s always amusing when you’re cruising at 150mph and someone comes up behind you, first time that ever happened to me I was like WTF!? I have managed the magical double-ton in Germany though (and I mean mph)

You're not really 'cruising' at 150mph are you. It's very, very fast and you'd have to be hyper-aware of everything going on around you. Hardly a relaxing driving experience.

These threads always attract posters that seem to think they are extremely cool and the best fucking drivers ever.

They actually, sound like a bunch of teens bragging about taking drugs.

Not cool. At all.

Given that it's twice the German advisory limit its not just selfish it's beyond ignorant.

You're not really 'cruising' at 150mph are you. It's very, very fast and you'd have to be hyper-aware of everything going on around you. Hardly a relaxing driving experience.

’Cruising’ as in sat at a constant speed rather than chilling out with one elbow hanging out the window. Absolute concentration and hyper vigilance required.

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

Lots of people disregard laws if they don't agree with them.

In fact it is one of the ways governments get feedback that what they have done is unpopular and needs further thought.

Plenty of people disregarded the poll tax for example.

A lot of people seem to disregard facts on a speeding thread

What you said re "three times."
I've posted before and felt 9 or 12 points but no ban.
However, once speeding same hour, foolishness or lack of awareness, 2nd time, total disregard of your surrounding, 3r time could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates,

3 times, same night, same road. When driving you are supposed to be driving with 'due care and attention' - the magistrates will consider that but also how important the driving is to OP in their day to day living - ie is it essential etc