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Hate the new woman at work

127 replies

Elbai · 02/04/2024 19:02

I work a pretty small company, office of 35, my role is in sales. I like my job, could make more elsewhere but enjoy the work life balance and mostly the team.

My particular desk area is made up of 6 people, 4 in sales and 2 marketing. Marketing is just the head of marketing and a degree apprentice. The head of marketing recently left and was replaced and I cannot stand the replacement.
Our previous head of marketing had 12 years experience, 5 years as head of marketing, 2 before that with us and 5 before elsewhere. He was great. Our replacement is a 25 year old, 3 years experience, and conveniently related to the chairman! The poor degree apprentice must be desperate to leave ... how can you learn from someone with as much as experience as you!
To top it off, it's come out she's is making more than the previous head of marketing by 5k, surely she should be starting on less due to her lack of experience!!
She's okay enough at the job but personality wise she's a flirt and rather annoying.
It's also no secret that 3 weeks in she's already slept with on of the guys in research!
This is our second nepo hire in 8 months (owners daughter too).

AIBU to be so pissed off with this hire to the point I want to leave a company I've been at for 9 years? This is ridiculous right?

OP posts:
ColleenDonaghy · 03/04/2024 15:24

This is part of the reason why I'll never work for a family business again.

BrimfulofSasha · 03/04/2024 15:24

RicksandRones · 03/04/2024 15:01

Oh I must have missed the part about the owners daughter ... If that's the case we absolutely must work in the same place, it's too similar to be coincidence!

Interesting. OP should probably delete this post. If the detail given makes it obvious to someone which company it is she could be in breach of contract for putting the company reputation on the line. This could end up with her fired with no need for notice. Is gossip worth losing a 9 year career over OP?

JJathome · 03/04/2024 15:26

BrimfulofSasha · 03/04/2024 15:24

Interesting. OP should probably delete this post. If the detail given makes it obvious to someone which company it is she could be in breach of contract for putting the company reputation on the line. This could end up with her fired with no need for notice. Is gossip worth losing a 9 year career over OP?

Doubt it, she’s only made herself look bad, not the company. She just looks envious and judgey. She even admits grudgingly the woman is doing a decent job.

BrimfulofSasha · 03/04/2024 15:31

JJathome · 03/04/2024 15:26

Doubt it, she’s only made herself look bad, not the company. She just looks envious and judgey. She even admits grudgingly the woman is doing a decent job.

You can definitely get fired for gossiping about colleagues. In just this post she has gossiped about private life of a colleague and their pay to the world. She should be careful

GRex · 03/04/2024 15:38

She's okay enough at the job
How did you get from here to thinking it was ridiculous for her to be given the job?
Young managers quite often have older people grumble about reporting in, so you're not unusual to feel a bit sore OP. Some people will move up the career ladder faster than you, you need to think what it is about them that is different than you. If they can do the job, it isn't just their contacts.

I'm not sure what's shocking about a single 25 and 26yo having sex. According to stats I just googled, 43% of people married someone they met at work. I'd lay bets the majority shagged first.

littlegrebe · 03/04/2024 15:41

This is the danger with small companies, especially where they're run by the founder. The owners are often not able to separate their work from their personal life in their own minds and that influences the culture of the whole organisation so this sort of thing happens, nepo hires, drama about who's shagging who, and a general lack of boundaries. Some people love it but after a couple of toxic experiences I steer well clear now.

Charlingspont · 03/04/2024 15:43

dimllaishebiaith · 02/04/2024 19:20

I notice the young woman is labelled the flirt and judged for sleeping with someone at work

But the man she slept with is not judged at all...

^ This.

But this is irrelevant, however, her lack of experience and high salary, coupled with the nepotism that got her into this position means that I'm not surprised you feel anger towards her. But the anger is misdirected - be angry with those that hired her.

And start looking for another job.

KomodoOhno · 03/04/2024 15:45

I kind of hope someone from this business does see this to be honest.

RicksandRones · 03/04/2024 15:46

littlegrebe · 03/04/2024 15:41

This is the danger with small companies, especially where they're run by the founder. The owners are often not able to separate their work from their personal life in their own minds and that influences the culture of the whole organisation so this sort of thing happens, nepo hires, drama about who's shagging who, and a general lack of boundaries. Some people love it but after a couple of toxic experiences I steer well clear now.

I'm pretty certain OP and I work in the same place and this isn't our situation.

We are a subsidiary office of a larger company, the owners are based in 2 of the other offices abroad. One of their daughters is currently with us. The chairman's relative is a distant relation so not even sure how much of that is nepotism.

Generally the biggest issue in our office is a handful of men who have plenty to say about the younger women, I'm shocked and sort of saddened to see one of the women (when we have always been on the same side) being like this as it's totally out of character for our office. The description of the new employee isn't right either, she doesn't bother anyone, is good at her job and doesn't seem to be causing any problems.
Several roles have seen a pay rise this financial year and it's likely if the last person was still in the role they would have too.

It's screams of jealousy and bitterness which isn't what our office is normally like!

RicksandRones · 03/04/2024 15:47

KomodoOhno · 03/04/2024 15:45

I kind of hope someone from this business does see this to be honest.

I believe OP and I work in the same place, I can't figure out exactly who this is but if I could I'd be tempted to report this!

Bearbookagainandagain · 03/04/2024 15:48

Your dislike for her seems to come mainly from things that are none of your business. The only thing that should matters to you is whether she can do the job, and you admit yourself that she can.

Bitching about your new colleague however is very poor form.

NestaArcheron · 03/04/2024 15:49

What does her sleeping with a colleague have to do with her performance at work?
Judgement and bitterness absolutely ooze from you. She's young and that's rubbed you up the wrong way. You sound like you might be a bit jealous of her, op.

converseandjeans · 03/04/2024 15:52

To top it off, it's come out she's is making more than the previous head of marketing by 5k, surely she should be starting on less due to her lack of experience!!

Well the previous head of marketing would have probably stayed if he had been offered a £5k pay rise. It's out of order when they pay a new person above what the previous person was getting.

I don't think she's behaving brilliantly either. Maybe she won't last long.

NestaArcheron · 03/04/2024 15:52

Oh dear op, looks like you'll be the talk of the office tomorrow!

GRex · 03/04/2024 15:55

RicksandRones · 03/04/2024 15:47

I believe OP and I work in the same place, I can't figure out exactly who this is but if I could I'd be tempted to report this!

Apparently it's one from a team of only 4, so not too hard to pin down. I don't think it will benefit the Head of Marketing to hear the rude remarks however, I'm sure she's aware enough of some dislike and will use it to spur her on, without being pointlessly upset. So while getting OP a warning might be satisfying, it could be kinder to let OP learn her lesson from you recognising the company and just have it taken down.

RicksandRones · 03/04/2024 15:57

@GRex

I can narrow it down to 2 people (excluding the men) both the others in that team have children. While I'd have a personal guess at who I think it would more likely be ... I wouldn't want to make assumptions on limited information unlike the OP!

Hankunamatata · 03/04/2024 16:00

You say she's OK at her job?? Then I'd grit my teeth and get on with my job

KomodoOhno · 03/04/2024 16:01

GRex · 03/04/2024 15:55

Apparently it's one from a team of only 4, so not too hard to pin down. I don't think it will benefit the Head of Marketing to hear the rude remarks however, I'm sure she's aware enough of some dislike and will use it to spur her on, without being pointlessly upset. So while getting OP a warning might be satisfying, it could be kinder to let OP learn her lesson from you recognising the company and just have it taken down.

Op has made enough comments that are extremely derogatory. It's rare people learn their lesson. This poor girl should not be having to work with someone who clearly has intense dislike for her for no reason. Much less posted it online with enough details to be found out. She is a HR nightmare.

converseandjeans · 03/04/2024 16:02

@RicksandRones

I believe OP and I work in the same place, I can't figure out exactly who this is but if I could I'd be tempted to report this!

I imagine it would be fairly easy to work out? If it is then it does sound like OP might be a bit jealous as you say new recruit is doing well.

I also agree with others about family businesses. The only way to train the next generation up is to employ them in the business. Also I guess if you run a business it's your choice who you hire 🤷🏻‍♀️

MonsteraMama · 03/04/2024 16:07

How dare she be younger than you, decent at her job, earning good money and shagging someone in another department.

You absolutely should flounce from your job because of this. It's an outrage. These young women, earning money and getting laid. Shame on them.

Lovingthegrungerevival · 03/04/2024 16:17

If she's OK at her job then her age and experience is irrelevant. However, it sounds as if the office dynamic has chnaged and it's no longer a company you wish to be part of so I would definitely consider leaving.

JJathome · 03/04/2024 16:51

Charlingspont · 03/04/2024 15:43

^ This.

But this is irrelevant, however, her lack of experience and high salary, coupled with the nepotism that got her into this position means that I'm not surprised you feel anger towards her. But the anger is misdirected - be angry with those that hired her.

And start looking for another job.

Why? It’s a family firm. They hired a family member who is decent at her job. What’s wrong with that. Plenty of family firms employ family members, as long as they are capable, as this woman is, I see no issue with people going to work in the family business.

dontcrowdthemushrooms · 03/04/2024 16:55

You sound bitter and jealous. The girl hasn’t done anything wrong and is good at her job - so wind your neck in. The apprentice might really like having someone younger. Get over it, or leave. She’s not even in your department!
It’s none of your business how much she makes or who she sleeps with. Most single 25yos are flirty, and there’s nothing wrong with that FFS!

5128gap · 03/04/2024 16:57

Why do you hate the young woman? She didn't hire herself. What do you think she should have done when offered the role? Turned it down in case there was another bloke out there with 20 years experience? She applied, she got it, you say yourself she's doing OK at it, which given her limited experience surely demonstrates she either works hard or has some talent for it, or both. I wouldn't want to work for a company that engaged in nepotism, so I get you'd be angry with them and want to leave, but you really shouldn't be making this woman the target. Your comments about who she's slept with don't reflect well on you either.

notacooldad · 03/04/2024 17:05

The sleeping with someone convo came up as I'm friends with someone she decided to tell!
So this guy she slept with?
How come your on her tail and not his?
Two to tango and all that. Or is it all on her? Oh, wait, you've a downer on her,so something that is nothing to to with you or affects you is her fault!