Hate the new woman at work

[Elbai]

I work a pretty small company, office of 35, my role is in sales. I like my job, could make more elsewhere but enjoy the work life balance and mostly the team.

My particular desk area is made up of 6 people, 4 in sales and 2 marketing. Marketing is just the head of marketing and a degree apprentice. The head of marketing recently left and was replaced and I cannot stand the replacement.
Our previous head of marketing had 12 years experience, 5 years as head of marketing, 2 before that with us and 5 before elsewhere. He was great. Our replacement is a 25 year old, 3 years experience, and conveniently related to the chairman! The poor degree apprentice must be desperate to leave ... how can you learn from someone with as much as experience as you!
To top it off, it's come out she's is making more than the previous head of marketing by 5k, surely she should be starting on less due to her lack of experience!!
She's okay enough at the job but personality wise she's a flirt and rather annoying.
It's also no secret that 3 weeks in she's already slept with on of the guys in research!
This is our second nepo hire in 8 months (owners daughter too).

AIBU to be so pissed off with this hire to the point I want to leave a company I've been at for 9 years? This is ridiculous right?

Age 25 with a brilliant opportunity to be paid loads with little experience - of course she’s taken the job! Who cares who she shags - it’s weird that you even know. Are you equally as disgusted at the old man shagging a much younger colleague?

Why do you ‘hate’ (that’s a very strong word) her and not the people who hired her?

He's 26 ... why do you think he's old?

Sorry it may not have been an older guy I read like it was!

But do you also hate the guy in research??

Maybe she hates you too?
Maybe she is not just OK at her job..she's brilliant..unless you actually watch her everyday, are her manager or do her job, how do you know?
Haven't you ever learnt anything new from someone with less experience than you? No-one is a carbon copy of anyone...we all have different skills.
Do you know for sure her report must be desperate to leave?
Maybe listening to other people's gossip about her isn't doing you any favours?
Give the woman a break and get on with your own job.

So you don’t like her as she younger than you and slept with a colleague?

It is a job. There will always be annoying people. I'm in management if this complaint came through my office it wouldn't be her we are speaking to.

“Decided to tell”.

Have I stepped into 1950?

Is a single available young woman having sex a shameful secret?

@Elbai slut shaming?

See my follow up post my brain filled in a blank that wasn’t there 🤦🏼‍♀️ do you hate the 26yo too?
2 young people who work together hooking up is hardly shocking or controversial

I used to work with someone who openly boasted about sleeping with certain managers and was promoted a few times, despite being somewhat lazy. It was a bit annoying, but I didn’t hate her. If she’d been unfairly promoted over me, I would have resented her somewhat, but she wasn’t. I blame the weak-willed management. It’s disappointing that they were led by their penises.

OP, nothing you’ve said has persuaded me that this woman deserves to be hated. I would try to get on with her. Also, you don’t know why she’s paid more than her predecessor. Maybe her last role was well-paid, or she has an in-demand technical qualification relating to digital marketing, for example?

If you don’t like the way the company is run (and it doesn’t sound entirely professional), look at what other opportunities are out there and how you can keep up your professional development in your current role in the meantime. I suggest you don’t do anything hasty as you’d only be spiting yourself.

Ignore the previous posters who've said she may be brilliant at her job, she may be very good at it op- this is highly unlikely. She was "installed" because she's related to the director and more than likely because she's attractive. I bet she's loud and extroverted as well 🙄 It happens more than you think, but from my experience they eventually crash and burn once everyone realises how useless they are. I've seen people with bags of confidence and good looks basically walk into job after job, with little experience or qualifications, only to be sacked after a few weeks/months when they're found out to be absolutely crap at the job, all because the only thing the company was bothered about was looks and confidence. It catches up with both them and the company/business eventually. You can either stay and patiently wait for this to happen, or get another job- I would, as I personally could not work with a woman like this as I actively dislike these women. This is also why I never work for family businesses either, as once their useless relatives are in, you can't get rid of them. Good luck.

Who she shags has nothing to do with you or this thread op. No need for that at all

You aren’t coming across well. Very judgey, you yourself say she’s ok at the job, which likely means she’s very good at it in reality.

your issue seems to be she’s young, is flirty in your view, slept with someone and earns well. I’m guessing she’s attractive also.

nepotism is seldom good but people then do need to be judged on their merit, their ability and performance on the role.

This is such a myogynistic post. Even the op says she’s ok at her job.

To be fair, who she bangs and how much she gets paid has got nothing to do with you. Aren’t women supposed to support each other in business?

I haven't ever felt the need to post before but either this is a massive coincidence and we work in extremely similar environments or we work in the same place.
If the later I could probably hazard a guess at who you are!
Regardless my point will be the same and I'll write my comment assuming it's just a coincidence.

We also have a new employee in an effectively identical role. She is related to some senior (albeit barely I'm sure it's something like her great uncle by marriage was the brother of that person). She is good at the job and was brought in to freshen up a stale and failing team. Shes already brought fresh ideas, she has slotted into the office nicely and made friends. She young and attractive and earning more than a lot of others in the office. While she may not be everyone's cup of tea, a distant relation of a senior who is barely in the office anyway. Taking on a role where she is trying to resuscitate a failing department, does have to gather her some respect. They are probably paying her more as it's a role few would want to touch (single handily training the apprentice and being the whole team of a struggling department).

Be nice, don't ruin your office dynamic if it's other wise ok. And if we do work in the same place - the girl you're referring too, is friendly, quiet and has made herself friends - who cares if she slept with one of them!! There are enough men in the office who will be hard for a young attractive girl to work with - don't make it worse!

Its such a nonsense diatribe as well, its like the poster cant even work out what they are moaning about (other than women existing) so throws it all in

So the woman is simultaneously employed because she is related to the owner and because she is pretty. I mean I certainly hope the owner isnt weighing up whether their daugher/neice/sister is pretty enough to give them a job!

Then the woman is simultaneously bad enough that she is going to be sacked, whilst still apparently being impossible to get rid of

The only consistent point is that the poster hates working with women🙄

Small family businesses have always been thus.

It's how they remain family businesses once the original founder has retired or dies. The other "nepo hire" you refer to, the owner's daughter, may well be in line to take over the business in due course.

If you don't like it then you need to work for a different sort of company.

Oh I must have missed the part about the owners daughter ... If that's the case we absolutely must work in the same place, it's too similar to be coincidence!

This is so petty and bitchy. She's got a few years experience and is performing in the role. Her salary was likely part of re-benchmarking the role as is standard for most replacements, and given she's working for a small company with one direct line she's hardly been given a huge amount of responsibility. 3 years in is pretty standard for one apprentice reporting under you.

Her sex life is none of your business and it is jarring you make no judgement on the man who slept with his new coworker.

You talk about nepo hires, but this sounds like a family business where the next generation is being groomed to eventually take over. If you dont like it, best you move on.

So she's younger than you, earns more money and can shag anyone she chooses to? Jealous much?

There is an element of slut shaming in your post that's unpleasant. If she had shagged her way around the office it wouldn't effect you, as long as she did it out of work hours! I hope you didn't intend it to sound like you are judging her for her sexual choices......

Other than that, I would be careful - the situation you have posted about is quite recognisable if anyone at your work happens to read Mumsnet......

I do think working for a 100% family owned business will come with things another type of company won't. So eg the owner may well want it to stay in the family and will see if anyone up to this.

The important question is the level of competence, and whether it will lead to loss of business or less growth than if a non-nepo hire had taken place. If it is the case, then look for a more secure job. If you are successful, then before you leave somehow let them know you fear for the future of the business because of their hiring policy.

Who has relationships with whom is really only your business if you have grounds to believe there is coercion or domestic abuse, and the victim does not seem to want to report it or escape from it because of their job. None of this applies from what you say.

I presume you don't report to her? Unless you do, or are likely to in future, I'd suck it up for now.
Keep a finger on the company pulse and if things look likely to change, then polish up that CV.
As an aside I have worked with people I couldn't stand at first but they seemed to mellow with time. Or perhaps I did.