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Hate the new woman at work

127 replies

Elbai · 02/04/2024 19:02

I work a pretty small company, office of 35, my role is in sales. I like my job, could make more elsewhere but enjoy the work life balance and mostly the team.

My particular desk area is made up of 6 people, 4 in sales and 2 marketing. Marketing is just the head of marketing and a degree apprentice. The head of marketing recently left and was replaced and I cannot stand the replacement.
Our previous head of marketing had 12 years experience, 5 years as head of marketing, 2 before that with us and 5 before elsewhere. He was great. Our replacement is a 25 year old, 3 years experience, and conveniently related to the chairman! The poor degree apprentice must be desperate to leave ... how can you learn from someone with as much as experience as you!
To top it off, it's come out she's is making more than the previous head of marketing by 5k, surely she should be starting on less due to her lack of experience!!
She's okay enough at the job but personality wise she's a flirt and rather annoying.
It's also no secret that 3 weeks in she's already slept with on of the guys in research!
This is our second nepo hire in 8 months (owners daughter too).

AIBU to be so pissed off with this hire to the point I want to leave a company I've been at for 9 years? This is ridiculous right?

OP posts:
ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 02/04/2024 19:56

She's good at her job.

Marketing is also a role where being current is far more attractive than experienced in a lot of cases.

Would you like to sleep with the guy in research? Not exactly professional by either of them but again it appears it's not having an impact on the job.

Would you like her salary? Again it's nothing to do with you. If you aren't happy with your own, negotiate it. Her salary doesn't impact your job.

If you aren't happy, leave but it doesn't seem like she's done anything to impact your job. You just dislike her.

Sparklesocks · 02/04/2024 19:58

Nepotism is frustrating when it feels like someone didn’t work their way into a role in the same way others need to, but slagging off her sex life (none of your business, shitty that it’s become gossip for entertainment) is unnecessary.

dimllaishebiaith · 02/04/2024 20:04

The thing is this is being called nepotism but the reality is small businesses like this have been for years called family businesses, because rightly or wrongly they are often passed down a family and family members work there

If you dont want to work for a business where the business owners children come to work there don't work for a family business type company

ScroogeMcDuckling · 02/04/2024 20:08

Perhaps sleeping with the bloke was an excellent marketing strategy!

titles are given to inflate egos. marketing manager of one. The buck stops with you.

crisp aisle manager in a supermarket, 10p per hour more, a suit, instead of washable uniform and a loss of overtime, all to be bollocked if the wait it’s aren’t full all the time.

Nepo babies will last if they are good at what they do, they will be gone quicker than a rat up a drainpipe if they don’t deliver.

but hey, if you can earn more, go for it.

Lanore · 02/04/2024 20:09

dimllaishebiaith · 02/04/2024 19:20

I notice the young woman is labelled the flirt and judged for sleeping with someone at work

But the man she slept with is not judged at all...

This was my thought too.

If you’re a hardworking talented young woman, and you’re brought in at a senior level to a group of less talented less hardworking older women, it’s a well known thing that the older women will be absolutely horrible to you and deliberately do your work badly, if at all, while bitching obsessively. OP, I knew before you told me that the outgoing head of marketing you liked so much would be a man. This is all such a cliche.

And the fact that she’s related to someone senior doesn’t necessarily mean that’s why she got the job. She’s been brought up around this business, is in it for life, and probably understands it far better than you or your judgey colleagues ever will.

Maybe stop sulking and gossiping about working for a young woman and do your job?

Or if you can’t be professional about your boss then you should leave yes.

PotatoPudding · 02/04/2024 20:09

Is she doing the job less well than her predecessor?

rainyskylight · 02/04/2024 21:18

I agree with everything @dimllaishebiaith says!

WandaWonder · 02/04/2024 21:22

Why is her relationships or who she sleeps with anything to do with you?

rwalker · 02/04/2024 21:28

The fact you say she’s ok at her job giving her some reluctant praise and you are clearly bias as you don’t like her make me think he is actually good at her job

i don’t get this experienced bollocks done of the most useless people I’ve worked with have had years of experience

there is a school of thought about fresh new keen to learn and develop employees rather than a dinosaur with years in there belt and stuck in there ways

were you involved in the recruitment process do you know the others were better

PotatoPudding · 02/04/2024 21:31

Hate the woman at work, or insanely jealous of the woman at work?

LauderSyme · 02/04/2024 21:37

Her sex life and salary are none of your business.

Your sneery interest in her makes me think you are talking sexist drivel. Yes, women can be sexist too. Do the poor woman a favour and grow up or ship out.

Candlelig · 02/04/2024 21:40

Yanbu and once you start hating your company it’s hard to come back from that. It sounds rubbish and I’d look for a new job

Dustpantsandbush · 02/04/2024 21:46

Green is not your colour dear.

TraitorsGate · 02/04/2024 21:46

Don't let the green eyed monster destroy you, it's just a job.

ThisJoyousTaupeCat · 02/04/2024 21:48

It is annoying and unfair but that's always been the way. Leave if you like, 9 years is a long time somewhere maybe it's time to branch out and do you want to work at a place like this? Just be careful not to gossip about her because you'll come out worse off.

I must say I'm rather amused by the defensive, pro-nepo comments...reminding us all of the target drmographics of MN! 🤣

Otherstories2002 · 02/04/2024 21:54

Elbai · 02/04/2024 19:21

I've been told everything I know rather than asked!!

I only know her pay as she went for work drinks and it came up then (everyone at our office knows what most people makes).

The sleeping with someone convo came up as I'm friends with someone she decided to tell!

And your bitchy friend of course immediately told you.

You sound bitter and jealous.

HurryupHenry · 02/04/2024 21:59

You could aim higher but don’t, this woman has aimed higher and is okay at her job and you don’t like her because she slept with someone. Isn’t that called…..jealousy?

Maybe leaving would do you good?

dimllaishebiaith · 02/04/2024 22:22

ThisJoyousTaupeCat · 02/04/2024 21:48

It is annoying and unfair but that's always been the way. Leave if you like, 9 years is a long time somewhere maybe it's time to branch out and do you want to work at a place like this? Just be careful not to gossip about her because you'll come out worse off.

I must say I'm rather amused by the defensive, pro-nepo comments...reminding us all of the target drmographics of MN! 🤣

I mean if thats aimed at me thats hilarious. I come from extreme generational poverty. The only "family business" I could have nepotised myself into would have been prostituion. To be clear, I passed on that one...

Spectre8 · 02/04/2024 22:27

Sometimes people.who have been in jobs for that long become stuck in the mud and new people bring fresh ideas and have some leeway in changing old habits

lto2019 · 02/04/2024 23:00

You seem to be annoyed about things which have no impact on you. You say she is ok at her job - which is the only thing which affects you. How much she earns, who she sleeps with how much she can help the apprentice is none of your business. Her relation to the management is inappropriate but reflective of lots of places.

Seedpods · 02/04/2024 23:03

You get that your previous head of marketing had to have started somewhere, too, right? Maybe they were looking for a younger person with different ideas — even you admit she’s ok at the job, you just don’t like the fact that she’s related to the chairman, her starting salary, and that she has slept with someone in another department. Or her personality.

I just think most of that is none of your business. Nepo hires are annoying, sure. A personality clash is just something that happens from time to time in workplaces. Her sex life and starting salary aren’t your affair.

AngelQuartz · 02/04/2024 23:09

Screams jealousy.

Garlicked · 02/04/2024 23:23

I get it, OP. You've said you haven't looked for better-paying jobs because you like your work and your team. Fairly small, close-knit teams can become a sort of family with its own culture and well balanced relationships, mutually supportive and productive. I've been lucky enough to work in several like that; it's truly valuable.

One hire who doesn't fit the team dynamic can throw the whole thing off balance. There's little you can do beyond hoping they'll settle in but, often, the change happens and we're left wondering whether to stick with it or move on.

This could turn out to be your prompt to raise your game with another employer. I understand why you're pissed off, though.

Problemnumber99 · 02/04/2024 23:30

I'd give anything for a good bit of gossip in my office, you're lucky to get a 'good morning' 😴

nadine90 · 02/04/2024 23:37

It’s annoying when people seem to land on their feet into jobs you don’t feel they deserve. But that can and does happen anywhere. If you like the job and this person is not affecting your work, then just get your head down and get on with it. Because there’s no guarantee you won’t come across things like this in any job you go to. Focus on yourself and how you can progress.