Private education and healthcare

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I'm just curious as to why they are considered morally indefensible when people being able to afford better quality clothing, houses, safer cars etc aren't commented on in the same way?

Considering both private healthcare and education doesn't necessarily mean a better quality, why do people get so annoyed over them?

From our experience of both private education and healthcare they are miles ahead of their public counterparts - down to individual opinion I suppose

Because education and health are human rights. Fancy cars and clothes are not.

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Didimum · Today 22:13
Because education and health are human rights. Fancy cars and clothes are not.

That is true, but on mn, at least, there seem to be more objections to private education than private healthcare.

British national pass time .... Jealousy!
If after paying high taxes to food their healthcare and education some decide to pay for it again by going private and freeing up space for others anyone still has angst they need to resolve Thier own issues.
The royal family pay no taxes claim to be "in service to the nation" yet everyone is happy for them to not use the services of the country they represent and rule over.

Clothing would be a basic need, as is shelter?
Transport is considered essential in most places, whether that be a private car or public transport. The difference is between 'fancy' or 'bog standard'

I’m not talking about basic needs, I’m talking about human rights. Transport is not a human right, having a car is not a human right. A need just as clothing for warmth and protection is a human right, but having a £200 jumper or a £20 one does not afford you the amount of privilege or extended life and wellbeing as private education and healthcare does.

But you're assuming private = better? Private hospitals often don't have an ICU making procedures done under anaesthetic more problematic if something were to go wrong, among other issues.

Private education and private healthcare are better though. That’s why people have an issue with it; they don’t want other people having something better than they have.

Because the people in top positions of power in most organisations were overwhelmingly privately educated, 'the establishment' - royalty, MPs BBC, banking, the judiciary, armed forces etc. Private schools perpetuate and entrench privilege and the status quo. Schooling is compulsory age 5-16. Nothing else private or better is of the same scale and magnitude not even private health because it's not every day for so many years.

But they don't mind people having clothes that keep them warmer or last them longer, ie better. Or a car that is higher on the safety ratings? A house in a safer area?

Because education and health are so important. Having private options make society so unequal, it’s completely wrong. It gives some a really unfair advantage.
It would be much better to improve health and education for all.

Clothes are cars are trivial though. Health and education are essential.

Politics of envy - they can’t have it so you shouldn’t either.

Simples.

I don't think either are morally indefensible but I think the country would be a better place if there was no need for private education or healthcare. That is, if there was enough capacity and choice and quality that no one would want to go private.

Unfortunately, that seems very hard to achieve.

The NHS is blessed OP, did you not realise? It means that to pay for private care is IMMORAL.

But you don’t opt out of the NHS when you also choose private healthcare – you have the privilege and access to both. There is no doubt having that access and choice is better than someone who doesn’t.

They don’t amount to the same privilege though.

It's because they can't access private so they think no one should. I live in a grammar school area and all the people I know who are against the grammar system put their own child in for the 11+ when the time came. They have morals hypothetically but when it comes to their own they want the best.

This isn’t true. I can afford private healthcare and education but I choose not to have it.

Not true. I can afford it and don’t use it. You cannot speak for everyone or their reasons why.

But what about people like me who can afford private healthcare and private education but still don't agree with it?

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Tbh I don't see the issue. People who can afford private are probably paying more tax than we are, and not taking up resources, making it better for all of us.

You choose to wait years on essential surgery? 🤔