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Another lunch ruined by other peoples’ children

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Bakeoffskateoff · 31/03/2024 20:41

Am I being unreasonable to get really pissed off with other people being unable or unwillling to teach their children to sit quietly in cafes and restaurants. Went out for lunch today to our usual weekend cafe. Two lots of families with kids aged five to eight who were noisy, whiny, annoying, sat on tables, crying. I had to hurry my lunch down to get out of there as soon as possible. I’m sick of parents who think little Freddie is so cute for making loud tractor noises, causing other diners to turn around. No one else appreciates your child quite like you do.

If you can’t teach your child manners please don’t take them out where there are other people.

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Noicant · 31/03/2024 21:39

Don’t know what sex has to do with it, I’ve carried Dd out of many places while she’s imitated a demented cat as a toddler. She’s not passive or placid (had the “she’s like a boy” and “my isn’t she active” comments a few too many times 🙄). It’s consistent effort, not always successful but consistent that gets her to behave and we hustle out of there if it looks like her behaviour is going to deteriorate. We’ve definitely had some not great meals out but we are absolutely not wringing our hands wailing “but what can we doooooo!?”

ND I totally get but “he’s a boy” is just opting out of even trying isn’t it.

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:40

@NicholJO you are exactly 'that' type of parent aren't you?! Calling a poster what you just did shows totally your mentality. Your post is bordering on illiterate.

BTW just for one thing, "boring" only has one 'o'. 'Boorish' however does have two, and is a good description of your post.

How to you equate someone being "boring" with not wanting to have to share a space with ill-mannered, badly behaved children?!

Go away and take responsibility for your kids!

Alwaysalwayscold · 31/03/2024 21:40

I like kids, it's nice to hear them being happy and playing.

There's a big difference between playing, where the noise might be talking excitedly or giggling and the type of behaviour many parents allow these days. Standing on chairs, sitting on tables, squealing, running around (dangerous in a restaurant), drumming on the table with cutlery, the list could go on.

Funnily enough for those accusing ableism, it's rarely the ND children doing this, and their parents at least try to manage their children's meltdowns the best they can. It's usually the kids who are so addicted to screens that they scream the place down until they get a phone/iPad playing cartoons at full volume shoved in front of them.

Aquamarine1029 · 31/03/2024 21:40

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Ah yes, the predictable rally cry of lazy parents everywhere. 🙄

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:41

PostItInABook · 31/03/2024 21:06

I went out for lunch today and at the table next to us there was a lad of about 8 or 9 sat quietly reading a book and another a little younger who was drawing whilst their mum chatted with other adults. They joined in the conversation a few times when they asked them a few things but otherwise just read / drew until their meal came. It struck me how surprised I was because the norm nowadays is very much let your kids be as loud and annoying as humanly possible. These kids were polite, cheerful and clearly content to do their quiet activities at the table. It was all very pleasant and everyone was able to enjoy their meal and conversation.

I wrote a similar post above.

How sad is it that we particularly notice well-behaved children as it's almost exceptional now?!

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:42

@picolosmum what a nasty disgusting post. No wonder society is the way it is today, with uncontrollable, feral children, creating havoc in schools!!

HighlandSpring85 · 31/03/2024 21:43

Children are part of general public. If you don't it, stay in.

Yearendjoy · 31/03/2024 21:45

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This must be the nastiest post I've ever seen on here.
I don't know why you say it's a pointless post. Lots of people agree with op.

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:45

HighlandSpring85 · 31/03/2024 21:43

Children are part of general public. If you don't it, stay in.

Why should anyone have to stay in because you are incapable of controlling your kids?!!!

Step up! You will be doing them a favour!!

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 31/03/2024 21:47

I think it's tricky. Those children could've sat quietly and nice as pie previously and they are just over hyped etc as a one off.
But I know it is irritating hearing other people's children.

I was walking around Edinburgh yesterday and so many babies in strollers crying their hearts out whilst the parent tried on clothes. One one hand I got angry listening to the crying, but the other I felt very sorry for the kid having to put up with total and utter boredom and waiting around in a hot shop. WHY take a baby/toddler clothes shopping. Omg

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:47

Yearendjoy · 31/03/2024 21:45

This must be the nastiest post I've ever seen on here.
I don't know why you say it's a pointless post. Lots of people agree with op.

Glad it's been deleted so promptly.

That poster just demonstrated all that's wrong with society now. Selfish, entitled people who simply don't have any consideration whatsoever towards others!

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:49

I was in a farm shop yesterday (no, not that one!) and a toddler bawled his lungs out for a good 20 minutes or more. I intended to browse for longer but I couldn't stand it any more so left.

Now if that had been one of mine, they would have been promptly removed until they had calmed down. The mother was last seen offering a lollipop...!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 31/03/2024 21:50

HighlandSpring85 · 31/03/2024 21:43

Children are part of general public. If you don't it, stay in.

And part of being part of the general public is learning to behave so it's down to the parents to teach them.

Take the cutlery off the kid when she's banging it on the table (not 'we don't do that do we?' in a mamby pamby voice). Don't let the kid run around and go up to other people and then glare at them when they tell the kid to go back to his own table.

EG94 · 31/03/2024 21:56

Cor I get it’s totally hard because I have a dog that I can’t shut up on a walk and she irritates the shit out of me so god knows what she does to others 🤦🏼‍♀️ but yea feral kids fuck me off. Not the ones where you see parents genuinely trying and on the brink of tears but the feral shits running about being twats whilst parents ignore them. That pisses me right off. Table manners are a bigger for me. When I met my partner his then 7 year old decided during a meal he would be bashing a ballon about going into other people’s dinners. Dad sat there. I said you gunna say something - na he’s just being a kid. No he’s being a nuisance. Said stop that please, did he listen, did he fuck!! Can I have that ballon please, passes it to me. I popped it. now irritate others! Sit down eat like the well behaved young man I expect you to be whilst out please or we won’t go out. Simple.

bcnmadre · 31/03/2024 22:00

Honestly, "making tractor noises"? Is that really so bad?

If the kids had been sat silently on iPads there would be a post whinging about that instead. Parents can't win!

Mydogmylife · 31/03/2024 22:01

Thorinfling · 31/03/2024 20:59

I had this once in a lovely pub. Table nearby of around 3 families, big group with toddlers.
Adults were just sat drinking and chatting while the kids wandered round the pub annoying other diners, screaming, demanding attention, chucking stuff around.

At the end of the meal I went over to ask politely if I could have the 3 stuffed pandas back that one of the kids had grabbed despite our best efforts and was now merrily chewing and slobbering over. The mum was a bit shirty in the "he was only playing with them" vibe.

"Yes but they are my dog's favourite chew toys and we're leaving now" was my response. The mum's face was priceless when she realised her precious darling was sharing a chew toy with my spaniel.

Haha -kind of karma biting 😂😂

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 31/03/2024 22:03

Runnerinthenight · 31/03/2024 21:49

I was in a farm shop yesterday (no, not that one!) and a toddler bawled his lungs out for a good 20 minutes or more. I intended to browse for longer but I couldn't stand it any more so left.

Now if that had been one of mine, they would have been promptly removed until they had calmed down. The mother was last seen offering a lollipop...!

This is a real pet hate of mine. If you are just nipping in to get something, fine, you're only subjecting everyone else to screaming for a couple of minutes.

Don't be that dickhead who just ignores your screaming child for twenty minutes to the extent that other people are having to leave because you are a self absorbed arse who will browse at their leisure rather than parent their child.

This is always the parent that says "I've got as much right to be here as anyone else." You can't get through to that level of dickhead, you just can't.

Northernsouloldies · 31/03/2024 22:04

Shrieking kid noise goes through my head .so I pick my times and places to avoid.an Easter Sunday I wouldn't bother with obviously loads of families out and rightly so.

Londonrach1 · 31/03/2024 22:09

Had similar today ..one family had screaming running around kids(there was 4 I think aged baby to ten ish (baby was running around of course)...once they left the noise level dropped to normal. All the other tables had children including ours and none were screaming or running around apart from this one table...all very strange. Dh took dd out once to look at the pub garden (which had a slide in ) as food took slightly long to come..we were told of this when we arrived as every table was full and I saw other families doing the same... Yanbu.

2024theplot · 31/03/2024 22:10

I completely agree. When we go out with any of our friends with children, the children sit peacefully with us/we all entertain the children quietly.
We always see other parents not bothering to parent their children, letting them whine and scream and run wild. It seems to just be pure laziness/parents being unwilling to look up from their phones/parents not caring that their children are ruining everyone else's lunch.

PostItInABook · 31/03/2024 22:12

ND adults also exist and aren’t always able to deal with noise very well but no one ever seems to give a shit about that. I don’t go out often because of it, because if I dare to wince or cringe at loud, shrill, constant noise made by a child I’m ‘miserable’, ‘old’, ‘boring’, ‘horrible’ etc. Sometimes I will just get up and leave if it gets too bad. I don’t dislike kids in general but I struggle to cope with the pitch of their voices. Equally, loud, noisy adults are not great to be around either. I really wish there were more places with proper ‘quiet’ zones/rooms that didn’t allow noisy, hyperactive, over the top people/kids in so people like me had places to go that didn’t require always mentally preparing for it and 9 times out of 10 having to leave earlier than planned.

TTCX2 · 31/03/2024 22:17

Children are people too and have every right to exist in the same places as you.

EG94 · 31/03/2024 22:18

TTCX2 · 31/03/2024 22:17

Children are people too and have every right to exist in the same places as you.

For sure but they don’t have every right to cause a nuisance and their parents don’t have every right to let it happen.

picolosmum · 31/03/2024 22:18

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bakewellbride · 31/03/2024 22:20

@picolosmum you have some nerve posting that again after your awful comment that got deleted.